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Pope Benedict's recent mass in Paris, oh gimme a break.
Basar
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I just read this while browsing Yahoo News archieves. Am I the only one who finds this ironic? Actually, forget about irony, lets call it hypocrisy. The head of the richest religion out there complains about power, possessions, and money.
Statements like this are why seperation of church and state is an absolute necessity today. Jebus.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080913/ap_on_re_eu/france_pope
Statements like this are why seperation of church and state is an absolute necessity today. Jebus.
PARIS - 13 September 2008. Pope Benedict XVI condemned unbridled "pagan" passion for power, possessions and money as a modern-day plague Saturday as he led more than a quarter of a million Catholics in an outdoor Mass in Paris.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080913/ap_on_re_eu/france_pope
i live in a country with a batshit crazy president and no, english is not my first language
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Really.
The hypocrisy isn't exactly new.
Raaaaawwwwwwrg!
Not heathens.
This is far from the worst sort of thing for a religious leader to hypocritically condemn, though. Money is the root of all evil, yadda yadda.
Sorry, pet peeve.
Yeah, essentially I'm not too bothered by this, because the message is at least good.
- Environmental pollution
- Genetic manipulation
- Accumulating excessive wealth
- Inflicting poverty
- Drug trafficking and consumption
- Morally debatable experiments
- Violation of fundamental rights of human nature
"It belongs in a museum!"
Giving millions of dollars to victims of sexual abuse? That is humanitarian work!
Yeah, frankly, that made me really really angry. Those fuckers should have been excommunicated and hung out to dry.
Why do they need priceless artifacts?
Or maybe that should have happened and then, you know, the church could stop calling gay acts a sin and let popes marry other people, men included.
I'm not talking about buildings, I'm talking about artifacts.
Why do they need the artifacts?
Sell them to a museum and give the money to the poor.
Priests not marrying is intended as a sacrifice and a protection from conflicts of interest between the Church and their spouse, and is not (and should not, in my opinion) going anywhere soon.
The Church considering homosexuality a sin is kind of douchey, but is at least internally consistent with their position that all sexual acts not intended to produce children is sinful, which has some reasonable scriptural backing.
The church really doesn't need the couple hundred million that would come from selling the Pieta. They're already very well funded through tithe and investments. (Did you know that the Roman Catholic Church is the majority shareholder in Coca-Cola? It's true!)
While I agree with the spirit of this, didn't Benedict basically say he accepted evolution as the mechanism for God's creation of creatures?
The Catholic church, for all its faults, also does a lot of good humanitarian work.
I understand what their rationale is. It's just a mindbogglingly stupid rationale. Conflict of interest? There are thousands of perfectly find pastors in protestant churches who get along just dandy while married.
Being "internally consistent" is not a virtue when your entire internal framework is retarded.
How is that a slap in the face to science? If his statement gets people to stop denying evolution, then what does it matter if they believe that a God controls it?
If I'm starving, I'll listen to fundie bullshit as long as they feed me- to me, the good of feeding hungry people or bringing them water or giving them a place to sleep far far outweighs the evil of proselytizing.
The Catholic church does not believe in "Evolution", it believes in "Intelligent Design." There's a huge difference.
The Catholic church's good humanitarian work is offset by the monumental evil they do in Africa in promoting abstinence-only education and discouraging condom use.
Please read up on their stance on evolution. They do not actually believe in evolution as a scientist would describe it. They believe God guided the evolution of humanity. That is not only not evolution, it is laughable as a concept and entirely unscientific. You might as well believe tropical storms are guided by God's hand instead of currents and climates. It doesn't explain anything, and it's indeed a slap in the face to honest science.
...Because not being a dick conflicted with their spiritual position? I'm not sure I understand. Can you give some examples?
Oh so we're going to make this an atheism thread.
Have fun with that.