So I wanted to start reading some X-Men, So I figured I would start with the Grant Morrison Omnibus, but then I saw it was over 1,000 pages and cost $300.00. Yikes.
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So I wanted to start reading some X-Men, So I figured I would start with the Grant Morrison Omnibus, but then I saw it was over 1,000 pages and cost $300.00. Yikes.
Fear not, the Morrisson run is available now in three trade volumes, like so.
Making the X-Men be lead by Magneto again would be retarded IMO. It's been done already and for a franchise that tends to do similar things over and over again I would find that quite annoying. That being said, it will probably happen.
Of course it will be Magneto leading. Anything else wouldn't require a teaser image.
I mean, "BIG CHANGES HERE, CYCLOPS IS GONNA LEAD THE X-MEN"? Really?
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What if.....the dream is what dies? Oooooohhhhh, how trippy.
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I for one will be pissed if they kill Cyke...they have slowly developed his character for years now to the point that he is one of the stronger leads in any team book, as opposed to the one note cardboard cut out he was when he started. To kill him now completely shoots all of that in the foot....of course this means that exactly what marvel will likely do.
They aren't lasers. They are beams of pure badassery from the badassery dimension. Only Cyclops is badass enough to access said dimension. Are you suggesting that death would remove his badassery? I would suggest that a good death woule make Cyke even more badass. Death for him could be a power boost.
Cyclops is too much of a man to let Jean do all the work. He'd punch people in the face to get info so he could feel like he's taking his share of the workload. Prof X brought him up a good boy, see?
You guys, Cyclops has the very important job of starting to say a clever one-liner, then putting on a second pair of red shades, finishing the quip, then cut to panel four with the YEEEAAHH thing and that's an issue.
I wonder if Magneto has found out he's dieing and that is why he's turned over a new leaf. He'll do all kinds of good and then die and become a martyr.
As far as I know Magneto and Scott have both "died" at least once [Mags has a bunch of death certificates wallpapering his bedroom no doubt]. Has Emma been declared dead yet?
Not that your average X-man won't die multiple times within a few short years but it might be a factor.
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She was shattered in diamond form, and Jean brought her back, fused all the pieces together.
Yeah. We need to think of what the worst possible story could be as that is what they will go with.
Therefore, Emma dies, Scott goes all distant and depressed over it and leaves the X-Men in Magneto's hands.
We have a winner. And it will be drawn by Greg Land, so we all lose.
I like what Fraction is just now doing with Scott (the last few Dodson issues), but they are setting it up to where it just all falls down around him and he'll just dig an even deeper hole of self-pity than where he was in the 90's. And then the book becomes Wolverine central again.
I remember reading from some creator or some review online, but it always stood out to me: in the original Claremont run, Cyclops was the main character, all the way until the Brood storyline, and that when Wolverine revealed Cyclops was infected by the Brood, that was a passing of the torch to it being Wolverine's book. And reading through the essential volumes, it really stands out as the turning point in the series.
I remember reading from some creator or some review online, but it always stood out to me: in the original Claremont run, Cyclops was the main character, all the way until the Brood storyline, and that when Wolverine revealed Cyclops was infected by the Brood, that was a passing of the torch to it being Wolverine's book. And reading through the essential volumes, it really stands out as the turning point in the series.
Huh.
I never really picked up on that, but now that I think back to those stories, I can see it. That's pretty cool.
And speaking of Cyclops - I quit reading X-Men books after The Twelve, which ended with Apocalypse stealing Cyclops' body. How did that get resolved?
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I remember reading from some creator or some review online, but it always stood out to me: in the original Claremont run, Cyclops was the main character, all the way until the Brood storyline, and that when Wolverine revealed Cyclops was infected by the Brood, that was a passing of the torch to it being Wolverine's book. And reading through the essential volumes, it really stands out as the turning point in the series.
Huh.
I never really picked up on that, but now that I think back to those stories, I can see it. That's pretty cool.
And speaking of Cyclops - I quit reading X-Men books after The Twelve, which ended with Apocalypse stealing Cyclops' body. How did that get resolved?
It ended very very weird, that was when I just got back into comics, and I was all "Cyclops died? Whut?"
Basically, after the Twelve story, everything skipped ahead six months without much explanation. Claremont took over both Uncanny and X-Men, and Jean had somehow lost her telekenesis to Psylocke but gained her telepathy. So in the Search for Cyclops mini, Jean and Cable pull their minds together to find Cyclops, who is in the middle East fighting for control of his body. They find him, split Apocalypse's soul from the body, and Cable finally kills him with his spear that is made to kill Apocalypse (this is completely ignored when Peter Milligan brings back Apocalypse, he should have been dead dead). And then Cyclops showed up for the Eve of Destruction story and then it goes into Morrison's run.
And in typical Marvel fashion, Cyclops came back to the X-Men before The Search for Cyclops mini finished up (because it was delayed), so you have this Tom Cruise Mission Impossible Cyclops with a complete attitude shift and you're wondering "Did I miss something?"
Claremont's entire second run, which was only about 10 issues, was really really bad. He made a new type of character, the Neo, who were just bad. Alan Davis' run might have been shaky but it was a LOT better than Claremont's return.
And the variant cover to The Search for Cyclops #3 is one that I can't believe got published. Damn Cyke, you get that.
I remember reading from some creator or some review online, but it always stood out to me: in the original Claremont run, Cyclops was the main character, all the way until the Brood storyline, and that when Wolverine revealed Cyclops was infected by the Brood, that was a passing of the torch to it being Wolverine's book. And reading through the essential volumes, it really stands out as the turning point in the series.
Huh.
I never really picked up on that, but now that I think back to those stories, I can see it. That's pretty cool.
And speaking of Cyclops - I quit reading X-Men books after The Twelve, which ended with Apocalypse stealing Cyclops' body. How did that get resolved?
It ended very very weird, that was when I just got back into comics, and I was all "Cyclops died? Whut?"
Basically, after the Twelve story, everything skipped ahead six months without much explanation. Claremont took over both Uncanny and X-Men, and Jean had somehow lost her telekenesis to Psylocke but gained her telepathy. So in the Search for Cyclops mini, Jean and Cable pull their minds together to find Cyclops, who is in the middle East fighting for control of his body. They find him, split Apocalypse's soul from the body, and Cable finally kills him with his spear that is made to kill Apocalypse (this is completely ignored when Peter Milligan brings back Apocalypse, he should have been dead dead). And then Cyclops showed up for the Eve of Destruction story and then it goes into Morrison's run.
And in typical Marvel fashion, Cyclops came back to the X-Men before The Search for Cyclops mini finished up (because it was delayed), so you have this Tom Cruise Mission Impossible Cyclops with a complete attitude shift and you're wondering "Did I miss something?"
Claremont's entire second run, which was only about 10 issues, was really really bad. He made a new type of character, the Neo, who were just bad. Alan Davis' run might have been shaky but it was a LOT better than Claremont's return.
And the variant cover to The Search for Cyclops #3 is one that I can't believe got published. Damn Cyke, you get that.
I never liked that cover because of Scotts eye area. WTF is up with that?
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That was the way his eyes were because of Apocalypse. So it's actually a three way.
Yeah. We need to think of what the worst possible story could be as that is what they will go with.
Therefore, Emma dies, Scott goes all distant and depressed over it and leaves the X-Men in Magneto's hands.
We have a winner. And it will be drawn by Greg Land, so we all lose.
I like what Fraction is just now doing with Scott (the last few Dodson issues), but they are setting it up to where it just all falls down around him and he'll just dig an even deeper hole of self-pity than where he was in the 90's. And then the book becomes Wolverine central again.
This is exactly what's going to happen, isn't it? It is the worst thing, therefore they'll have to do it.
If they torpedo the Scott-Emma thing, I'd probably just drop the book. I think part of why their whole relationship helped get me re-engaged with the X-men titles is that they got together via Scott cheating on Jean. But, I mean, isn't that how things happen in life?
Jean was the well-established Magic True Love Comic Girlfriend and he ends up fooling around with the blonde co-worker; Jean dies yet again; he ends up with the gal from work and everyone is a little uncomfortable about the whole thing.
In a medium where 'Mature' usually means:
1. Boobs with nipples
2. Decapitations
3. One character is hooked on drugs in some generic way
it struck me as kind of bold to have a significant character get involved with the romantic interest in that way. It made it easier for me, as a reader, to respect that ingredient of the team's fiction. In a team super book, the social dynamics are such a big, soap operatic element that sets the ongoing groundwork while super villains come and go in the foreground.
Yeah. We need to think of what the worst possible story could be as that is what they will go with.
Therefore, Emma dies, Scott goes all distant and depressed over it and leaves the X-Men in Magneto's hands.
We have a winner. And it will be drawn by Greg Land, so we all lose.
I like what Fraction is just now doing with Scott (the last few Dodson issues), but they are setting it up to where it just all falls down around him and he'll just dig an even deeper hole of self-pity than where he was in the 90's. And then the book becomes Wolverine central again.
This is exactly what's going to happen, isn't it? It is the worst thing, therefore they'll have to do it.
If they torpedo the Scott-Emma thing, I'd probably just drop the book. I think part of why their whole relationship helped get me re-engaged with the X-men titles is that they got together via Scott cheating on Jean. But, I mean, isn't that how things happen in life?
Jean was the well-established Magic True Love Comic Girlfriend and he ends up fooling around with the blonde co-worker; Jean dies yet again; he ends up with the gal from work and everyone is a little uncomfortable about the whole thing.
In a medium where 'Mature' usually means:
1. Boobs with nipples
2. Decapitations
3. One character is hooked on drugs in some generic way
it struck me as kind of bold to have a significant character get involved with the romantic interest in that way. It made it easier for me, as a reader, to respect that ingredient of the team's fiction. In a team super book, the social dynamics are such a big, soap operatic element that sets the ongoing groundwork while super villains come and go in the foreground.
Scott-Emma is probably the best pairing in comics right now. Simply because Emma's a women with a personality. Which has magically reawakend Scott's long lost "GETTING SHIT DONE" personality.
Which has also caused Jean to actually develop a personality, from magic wish fufillment destiny girl to magical wish fufillment destiny girl who got dumped for an absolute bitch with plastic boobs who has the man who actually loved her all this time waiting in the wings.
Really if Jean comes back I want them to go the Logan route with her. Like everyone said Scott/Emma is too good a pairing and teasing Jean/Logan for so long needs something to evolve the situation.
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Fear not, the Morrisson run is available now in three trade volumes, like so.
Best relaunch outside of Superman Man of Steel.
Morrison's run is a good story just on its own (since most of it has been reversed), it's very self contained.
That's your solution to everything!
I mean, "BIG CHANGES HERE, CYCLOPS IS GONNA LEAD THE X-MEN"? Really?
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This is why Ralph is actually a detective ghost, not a ghost detective.
Cyclops does that and he blows up the evidence.
i am pretty sure his portals to the laser dimension would be offline once he is no longer alive.
edit: I mean what, are they ghost portals to the ghost laser dimension in that case?
this is such a good explanation that my brain just hemorrhaged.
:^:
all cyclops has to do is look smug
Not that your average X-man won't die multiple times within a few short years but it might be a factor.
Now I'm going to hope extra hard that it happens.
Therefore, Emma dies, Scott goes all distant and depressed over it and leaves the X-Men in Magneto's hands.
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We have a winner. And it will be drawn by Greg Land, so we all lose.
I like what Fraction is just now doing with Scott (the last few Dodson issues), but they are setting it up to where it just all falls down around him and he'll just dig an even deeper hole of self-pity than where he was in the 90's. And then the book becomes Wolverine central again.
I remember reading from some creator or some review online, but it always stood out to me: in the original Claremont run, Cyclops was the main character, all the way until the Brood storyline, and that when Wolverine revealed Cyclops was infected by the Brood, that was a passing of the torch to it being Wolverine's book. And reading through the essential volumes, it really stands out as the turning point in the series.
Huh.
I never really picked up on that, but now that I think back to those stories, I can see it. That's pretty cool.
And speaking of Cyclops - I quit reading X-Men books after The Twelve, which ended with Apocalypse stealing Cyclops' body. How did that get resolved?
It ended very very weird, that was when I just got back into comics, and I was all "Cyclops died? Whut?"
Basically, after the Twelve story, everything skipped ahead six months without much explanation. Claremont took over both Uncanny and X-Men, and Jean had somehow lost her telekenesis to Psylocke but gained her telepathy. So in the Search for Cyclops mini, Jean and Cable pull their minds together to find Cyclops, who is in the middle East fighting for control of his body. They find him, split Apocalypse's soul from the body, and Cable finally kills him with his spear that is made to kill Apocalypse (this is completely ignored when Peter Milligan brings back Apocalypse, he should have been dead dead). And then Cyclops showed up for the Eve of Destruction story and then it goes into Morrison's run.
And in typical Marvel fashion, Cyclops came back to the X-Men before The Search for Cyclops mini finished up (because it was delayed), so you have this Tom Cruise Mission Impossible Cyclops with a complete attitude shift and you're wondering "Did I miss something?"
Claremont's entire second run, which was only about 10 issues, was really really bad. He made a new type of character, the Neo, who were just bad. Alan Davis' run might have been shaky but it was a LOT better than Claremont's return.
And the variant cover to The Search for Cyclops #3 is one that I can't believe got published. Damn Cyke, you get that.
I never liked that cover because of Scotts eye area. WTF is up with that?
This is exactly what's going to happen, isn't it? It is the worst thing, therefore they'll have to do it.
If they torpedo the Scott-Emma thing, I'd probably just drop the book. I think part of why their whole relationship helped get me re-engaged with the X-men titles is that they got together via Scott cheating on Jean. But, I mean, isn't that how things happen in life?
Jean was the well-established Magic True Love Comic Girlfriend and he ends up fooling around with the blonde co-worker; Jean dies yet again; he ends up with the gal from work and everyone is a little uncomfortable about the whole thing.
In a medium where 'Mature' usually means:
1. Boobs with nipples
2. Decapitations
3. One character is hooked on drugs in some generic way
it struck me as kind of bold to have a significant character get involved with the romantic interest in that way. It made it easier for me, as a reader, to respect that ingredient of the team's fiction. In a team super book, the social dynamics are such a big, soap operatic element that sets the ongoing groundwork while super villains come and go in the foreground.
Scott-Emma is probably the best pairing in comics right now. Simply because Emma's a women with a personality. Which has magically reawakend Scott's long lost "GETTING SHIT DONE" personality.
Which has also caused Jean to actually develop a personality, from magic wish fufillment destiny girl to magical wish fufillment destiny girl who got dumped for an absolute bitch with plastic boobs who has the man who actually loved her all this time waiting in the wings.
It's some good soap opera level shit going down.
Look at us, a bunch of 'shippers.