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Secret Invasion #8 Actually Delivers!
Also, I don't know if this is already known but there's a cover preview for New Avengers #48. Looks like the new line up is
Mockingbird and Hawkeye! YES!! Also, some super harshness for Iron Man. It's going to be a rough year.
Also, I don't know if this is already known but there's a cover preview for New Avengers #48. Looks like the new line up is
Ronin, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Luke Cage, and Captain America.
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No surprise there. Re: Iron Man
that's what pisses me off
things are bad because Tony Stark tried to implement what is essentially a good idea
yeah he fucked up, but was Civil War his fault? No
was SI his fault? Fuck no.
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Plus, what DD said.
While I agree that making Tony out to be some kind of Serpentor-like mix of Genghis Khan, Hitler, and Pol Pot has gotten a little ludicrous, I think he can be blamed for the way some shit went down. I feel like, had he backed Cap in Civil War, and presented a united front to the government, the hero community wouldn't have ended up so fractured. Because really, who's going to follow Hank Pym? Someone heroes may have gotten behind Richards, until they saw his own wife, brother-in-law, and best friend told him to fuck off.
Or he could have taken Steve into his confidence and worked with him on the SHRA, instead of saying, "Yo dude, this is what we're doing! It's gonna be awesome!" as seen in What If?: Civil War.
But, through his actions, he fractured the hero community in two, making it more difficult to share information and strategize. He put the registered heroes in a database, where any shmuck with a little know-how could get their identity, go to their house, and give them a beat down (Tigra), or in the case of the Skrulls, analyze their powers to find the most effective way to kill them. He also spread the heroes out in tiny pockets throughout the country, making it easier for large Skrull strike teams to show up and spank their asses, rather than keep them centralized in large metropolitan areas. He was also complicit in a lot of shady shit like war profiteering, and allowing the CSA to keep a band of murderers and psychopaths around to cripple and dismember superheroes.
Was he responsible for a lot of the bad shit that's happened? No. But he's shown tremendous hubris ("I'm a futurist! Listen to me!") and virtually every positive thing he's attempted has been somehow sabotaged or compromised, to the detriment of the superhero community and the world at large.
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Despite the fact that he was being treated like shit, the story definitely came off as being sympathetic to him.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Whaddya mean?
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
at least it didn't feel that way
that and the unanswered plot threads
You mean...
that thing didn't happen in the main Secret Invasion book, so I don't expect it to be resolved in the main secret invasion book.
I'll probably pick up the hardcover if I hear it remains as good as issue 1. Besides Spider-man, what were the other Noir titles?
And a fantastic four, though I thought that was in the first wave instead of wolverine (I might be crazy).
Regarding that last page
Um Tony was head of SHIELD. It was pretty much his job not to let bad shit like that happen, and he failed to even realise there was an issue until it was pretty much too late. His failure as head of SHIELD is why everyone is now able to dump shit all over him.
Plus he kind of did cause it along with the rest of the illuminati when they attacked the skrulls and got themselves captured and studied. And the rest of the world doesn't even know that bit.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
We often portray villains as being the kind that don't play well with others, sure, but there's no question that a group of powerful people are more dangerous than each on their own. Being a group requires being constructive and possibly putting others ends, needs and goals before your own, which is of course more of a "hero" thing than a villainous trait, but it'd be nice to see it done well for once.
I have doubts though. I'll be sincerely surprised if it doesn't just become a series of plots within plots against the world, heroes and each other. Not necessarily in that order.
As for Emma, after what happened with the X-Men in SF I'd definitely want to hook up with her. One, she's one of the most powerful telepaths on Earth. But second, because it takes a dysfunctional pair of "heroes" to pull that trick off. Even Norman might be in awe at the balls on her and Scott, and would definitely appreciate their utter ruthlessness.