You guys are odd in your views. Teefs, if you actually wanted to make abortions unnecessary you would advocate for the outlawing/restriction of them. They are necessary in large parts because they are available without institutionalized repercussions.
It just seems inconsistent with human rights (which you seem to advocate strongly for).
so you're arguing that something can be needed simply because it's legal to have it and once it's made illegal then it's no longer needed simply because it's been made illegal
Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
edited March 2009
Well, gay marriage is being legislated here in Wyoming but a lot of the populace is being all up-in-arms that the legislature is even talking about it. HURR HURR GAYS AINT PEOPLE HURR HURR
This state is wonderful, except for a lot of the people.
edit: And really do children have any human rights? No free speech, no freedom of choice or religion, no right to vote (as it should be I reckon, mental maturity eh wot.) Saying a fetus is human and then denying them basic human rights is a bit fuckin' sketch.
Its like risk reduction doesn't exist in Jigrah's world.
From a human rights viewpoint I just do not understand how you could be advocate personal choice when it comes to abortions. Although I guess there is some opposing viewpoints of physical right over the body and providing the means to reach potential for the fetus.
oh, did y'all see that Vermont is hella close to legalising gay marraige?
that is radical.
how is gay marriage being accepted everywhere except fucking california
please allow me to introduce myself I am every state below the mason-dixon line.
you know what I mean, dickwhistle
yeah I do it's just more of my general bemoaning of the south and how I've always disliked the stupid political beliefs mixed in with all the good stuff.
what I'm saying is I once heard a criticism of Obama where he said he was "pro-choice" or whatever and he responded by saying "Yes, pro-choice, but not necessarily pro-abortion." and it got me wondering, is anybody?
You guys are odd in your views. Teefs, if you actually wanted to make abortions unnecessary you would advocate for the outlawing/restriction of them. They are necessary in large parts because they are available without institutionalized repercussions.
It just seems inconsistent with human rights (which you seem to advocate strongly for).
so you're arguing that something can be needed simply because it's legal to have it and once it's made illegal then it's no longer needed simply because it's been made illegal
you're some kind of idiot, aren't you?
No, I didn't say that. It's needed for a lot of woman because they have the option for it, also I would argue it is barely needed in the first place, just highly desired.
Hey man, our state is fucking beautiful and geologically important and stuff but man there are a shit-ton of rednecks. The bad kind of hateful ignorant redneck, not the friendly "Hey y'all, want some barbecue?" rednecks.
what I'm saying is I once heard a criticism of Obama where he said he was "pro-choice" or whatever and he responded by saying "Yes, pro-choice, but not necessarily pro-abortion." and it got me wondering, is anybody?
That's a giant copout though.
Total puss move.
I see you wearing your Rorschach mask while saying that, living in a world where black and white never mix, no gray. Something about society not being as good as it once was. Whores or something about a smell. Then you set some dude on fire for littering.
what I'm saying is I once heard a criticism of Obama where he said he was "pro-choice" or whatever and he responded by saying "Yes, pro-choice, but not necessarily pro-abortion." and it got me wondering, is anybody?
That's a giant copout though.
Total puss move.
Yeah, he's only doing it to prove his 'moderate' stances and curry favor with the sheeple so he can get re-elected and take all of our guns and replace them with Hawaiian-born Islamic heroin needles.
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what I'm saying is I once heard a criticism of Obama where he said he was "pro-choice" or whatever and he responded by saying "Yes, pro-choice, but not necessarily pro-abortion." and it got me wondering, is anybody?
That's a giant copout though.
Total puss move.
Yeah, he's only doing it to prove his 'moderate' stances and curry favor with the sheeple so he can get re-elected and take all of our guns and replace them with Hawaiian-born Islamic heroin needles.
that secret muslim brainwashed us all into voting for him with his unnatural charisma.
Its like risk reduction doesn't exist in Jigrah's world.
From a human rights viewpoint I just do not understand how you could be advocate personal choice when it comes to abortions. Although I guess there is some opposing viewpoints of physical right over the body and providing the means to reach potential for the fetus.
ahahahahahhahahah
Can you actually state your views, or at least reasons why? Do you even have a reason for half the things you believe in or is it more of an identity that you find appealing?
Its like risk reduction doesn't exist in Jigrah's world.
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Seriously Dru, I mean really. That wasn't my argument at all. I was attacking some fuck faces argument about how these bad roads cause him to get fired because he was late to work. I was using that as an example.
Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
edited March 2009
Abortion isn't murder because fetuses, at the stage in which an abortion is still legal, are not people. Capitol punishment MIGHT be murder because they're people, but fuck me if I want "people" who rape a little girl's eyeholes running around. Partial-birth abortion, however, is totally fucking murder.
What defines murder? Are soldiers that kill in battle murderers? Someone that gets into a car accident and kills someone, is that murder? What if it is a drunk driver?
I cannot understand how you can look at abortion and be like "That is not the intentional killing of a human". I am attacking the reasons for your stance, not the stance itself. I am for the option of abortion as I think it helps further society and makes it more productive.
Abortion isn't murder because fetuses, at the stage in which an abortion is still legal, are not people. Capitol punishment MIGHT be murder because they're people, but fuck me if I want "people" who rape a little girl's eyeholes running around. Partial-birth abortion, however, is totally fucking murder.
You are still killing human potential, I don't understand how you can be for that and not for capital punishment.
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so you're arguing that something can be needed simply because it's legal to have it and once it's made illegal then it's no longer needed simply because it's been made illegal
you're some kind of idiot, aren't you?
This state is wonderful, except for a lot of the people.
edit: And really do children have any human rights? No free speech, no freedom of choice or religion, no right to vote (as it should be I reckon, mental maturity eh wot.) Saying a fetus is human and then denying them basic human rights is a bit fuckin' sketch.
you know what I mean, dickwhistle
From a human rights viewpoint I just do not understand how you could be advocate personal choice when it comes to abortions. Although I guess there is some opposing viewpoints of physical right over the body and providing the means to reach potential for the fetus.
That's a giant copout though.
Total puss move.
No, I didn't say that. It's needed for a lot of woman because they have the option for it, also I would argue it is barely needed in the first place, just highly desired.
these guys made a strong case for it
Hey man, our state is fucking beautiful and geologically important and stuff but man there are a shit-ton of rednecks. The bad kind of hateful ignorant redneck, not the friendly "Hey y'all, want some barbecue?" rednecks.
We've got lots of the second group too though.
Like the left being anti capital punishment and encompassing groups like PETA, but staunchly pro-choice.
Weird, right?
I see you wearing your Rorschach mask while saying that, living in a world where black and white never mix, no gray. Something about society not being as good as it once was. Whores or something about a smell. Then you set some dude on fire for littering.
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Yeah, he's only doing it to prove his 'moderate' stances and curry favor with the sheeple so he can get re-elected and take all of our guns and replace them with Hawaiian-born Islamic heroin needles.
don't call me unit 91, radio.
Can you actually state your views, or at least reasons why? Do you even have a reason for half the things you believe in or is it more of an identity that you find appealing?
Oh, which of those stances I quotes isn't "real left", thanks in advance.
Oh my god subtle troll++
Seriously Dru, I mean really. That wasn't my argument at all. I was attacking some fuck faces argument about how these bad roads cause him to get fired because he was late to work. I was using that as an example.
lol thanks for clearing that up
Subjective opinion, same as "this guy is guilty".
You're forgetting to adjust for your audience.
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What defines murder? Are soldiers that kill in battle murderers? Someone that gets into a car accident and kills someone, is that murder? What if it is a drunk driver?
I cannot understand how you can look at abortion and be like "That is not the intentional killing of a human". I am attacking the reasons for your stance, not the stance itself. I am for the option of abortion as I think it helps further society and makes it more productive.
You are still killing human potential, I don't understand how you can be for that and not for capital punishment.