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Pre-Fight Debate Thread: Bracket 16

Doctor DoomDoctor Doom Registered User regular
edited December 2006 in Graphic Violence
Match A:

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MODOK

Powers: Superhuman intelligence, Telekinesis, can fire beams of psychic force. Ability to calculate probability very precisely.

Vs

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Nimrod

Powers: Superhuman strength, durability
Ability to project destructive energy blasts
Can interface with and control computers
Shape shifting
Regeneration
Teleportation

Environment: AIM Headquarters

Match B:

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Mysterio

Powers: Special effects expert and masterful illusionist, skilled combatant

Equipment: Holographic projector, hallucinogenic gas, three robot decoys of himself, 10 pounds of C4

VS.

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Abomination

Powers: Superhuman strength, speed, durability and stamina
Regenerative healing factor

Environment: The Louisiana Superdome. Both contestants have full access to all equipment in the stadium. Neither may leave.

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  • SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Alright, post reasons Mysterio will win, now.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I've got nothing.




    So, Nimrod over MODOK?

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Ouch, this is going to be a slaughter. Nimrod and Abomination are going to just tear this round apart.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Skullo wrote:
    Alright, post reasons Mysterio will win, now.

    Lures Abomination out of the Superdome using robotic decoy.

    Alternatively, stuffs decoy with C4, puts it near tourny border, then detonates to blow Abomination out of bounds.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Nimrod looks really sleepy in his picture.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Marathon wrote:
    Nimrod looks really sleepy in his picture.

    He's doing his best Lillith impersonation.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Marathon wrote:
    Nimrod looks really sleepy in his picture.

    I think he was pretty much deactivated in that shot.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    Marathon wrote:
    Nimrod looks really sleepy in his picture.

    I think he was pretty much deactivated in that shot.

    They could have at least closed a dude's mouth while he was all deactivated.

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    All the equipment in the Superdome? Maybe Mysterio could get NFL Superpro to fight Abomination? Eh? Eh?

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
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    He's still losing.

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  • Milquetoast ThugMilquetoast Thug Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm not so sure that mysterio has such a clean cut victory against abomination; abom, unlike the hulk, was able retain his intelligence when he got transformed, and how intelligent is he? he's a former KGB agent. It ain't like he's stupid or anything.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Abomination has average intelligence.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm not so sure that mysterio has such a clean cut victory against abomination; abom, unlike the hulk, was able retain his intelligence when he got transformed, and how intelligent is he? he's a former KGB agent. It ain't like he's stupid or anything.

    Er, yes, I think we're pretty much starting from the basis that Mysterio's gonna get fucked sideways.

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  • SnoogySnoogy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Peter Parker has a hard time figureing out whats what with ol' fishbowl. And he is deffinately above average brain wise. Emil (sp?) is going to have a hard time not just crashing around at Mysterio's whim. At least thats my thought.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    I've got nothing.




    So, Nimrod over MODOK?

    No, MODOK over Nimrod.

    They are in AIM Headquarters.

    That's where MODOK pretty much lives and stuff. And it's full of horrifying weapons.

    Nimrod is fucked.

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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    MODOK and Nimmy are fighting in AIM Headquarters though. That's like MODOK's house or something.

    Best case for fishbowl-head that I can see would be a stalemate with Abomination. Not sure how he's going to hurt him at all.

    RETRACTION. He's got a pretty sweet equipment list. Giving it to Mysty.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I say Mysterio. Abom has normal intelligence, meaning his thinking process can be fucked with a lot easier than someone who does nothing but rage. Besides, how did Spidey fare on HIS first attempt(keeping in mind that there were no boundries for him then).

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Ouch...I actually kind of like Mysterio, but....good God. The Abomination's breath alone might take him out.

    Nimrod has my vote. He has a far more powerful arsenal of weapons at his command.

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  • GoodCitizenGoodCitizen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I think Mysterio could actually win this.
    All he has to do is place one of his robots out of bounds, then use his holographic projector to make it looks like it is still in bounds. Blonsky tries to crush it, steps out of bounds, and is disqualified. Its kinda lame, but it could happen.

    Not sure about the Nimrod/MODOK fight. Surely theres a weapon big enough in aim headquarters to kill either one of them. MODOK owns the place, but it says right in Nimrod's power list that he can take control of computers. I wonder if he could take control of MODOK's computer right from under him. Somehow I doubt it. At this point I'm leaning to MODOK because of the home field advantage.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    I am leaning toward Nimrod.

    And Mysterio.

    Because Mysterio knows Abom, and can put up enough gas in the stadium to make Abom think that he's fighting the Hulk a few times over, which might destroy his confidence/make him leave the stadium.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Seriously guys Nimrod can maybe take control of the AIM computers but MODOK will just take it right back because he is like fifty times smarter than Nimrod.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I am not feeling Mysterio over Abomination, not even a little bit.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I am not feeling Mysterio over Abomination, not even a little bit.

    Not even with 10 lbs of C4?

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Marathon wrote:
    I am not feeling Mysterio over Abomination, not even a little bit.

    Not even with 10 lbs of C4?

    Maybe 100

    or 1000

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  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm guessing the C4 isn't enough to do Abomination much harm? Doesn't matter though, Mysterio will trick him out of bounds within 5 minutes.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Um. He's a KGB agent. So while he is giant and strong, he is not stupid.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Didn't Frank Castle just recently kill Mysterio? With a gun? Yeah, much love to the Punisher, but I'm not thinking Mysterio is all that powerful or skilled if Frank wasted his gay ass.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Um. He's a KGB agent. So while he is giant and strong, he is not stupid.
    He was stupid enough to get turned into the Abomination.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Um. He's a KGB agent. So while he is giant and strong, he is not stupid.
    He was stupid enough to get turned into the Abomination.

    What the fuck? By your reasoning Bruce Banner must be an idiot also. Oh wait, he's actually so smart his intelligence can't even be measured by any existing test.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Seriously guys Nimrod can maybe take control of the AIM computers but MODOK will just take it right back because he is like fifty times smarter than Nimrod.

    Seriously? Like totally 50 times smarter? That's like, wowzers.

    Nimrod has this one. Hands down. I bet he doesn't even break a robot sweat.

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  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It's not about power. Trickery is Mysterio's bread and butter. I bet he wished all of his fights involved nothing more than luring people to where he wants them to go.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Seriously guys Nimrod can maybe take control of the AIM computers but MODOK will just take it right back because he is like fifty times smarter than Nimrod.

    Seriously? Like totally 50 times smarter? That's like, wowzers.

    Nimrod has this one. Hands down. I bet he doesn't even break a robot sweat.

    What?

    MODOK is able to do much mure calculations than pretty much any supercomputer. It's why he was made.

    He was originally MODOC, Mental Organism Designed Only for Computing, but then he killed a bunch of people and changed his name to MODOK. MODOK is actually specifically designed to study and comprehend the intricate workings of the Cosmic Cube.

    So yes, he is easily fifty times smarter than Nimrod.

    Normal people outsmart Nimrod all the time. What do you think MODOK in his own home is going to do?


    ALSO: t robosagogo

    Abomination exposed himself to gamma radiation intentionally, you dimwit.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Abomination exposed himself to gamma radiation intentionally, you dimwit.

    Exactly! Do you have any idea how moronic that is?

    At least Bruce Banner didn't know the potential effects of the Gamma Bomb and, more importantly, only risked himself to save Rick Jones. Blonsky just thought it'd be fun to bath in radiation that would, best case scenario, turn him into a monster and prevent him from ever enjoying life again.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Abomination exposed himself to gamma radiation intentionally, you dimwit.

    Exactly! Do you have any idea how moronic that is?

    At least Bruce Banner didn't know the potential effects of the Gamma Bomb and, more importantly, only risked himself to save Rick Jones. Blonsky just thought it'd be fun to bath in radiation that would, best case scenario, turn him into a monster and prevent him from ever enjoying life again.

    Blonksy knew the potential effects of a gamma bomb. Those effects being "turns you into an invincible radioactive behemoth".

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    First of all, not everyone has the unique physiology neccessary to be turned into a super-human by gamma radiation. Blonsky had no way of knowing he wouldn't just get cancer or develop a talking growth on his penis instead of getting turned into the an uglier Hulk.

    Second of all, I don't know if you've noticed but the Hulk is fucking miserable. God knows what kind of person would look at an overgrown green monster who spends all his time on the run while being hunted by the military and thinks, "Gosh, I want a piece of that."

    He's about as smart as that kid who lit himself on fire after watching Jackass.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I think it's pretty much the AIM technology versus Nimrod. Even with Modok being smarter than Nimrod, he doesn't have the necessary power within himself to take out Nimrod.

    So he has to be able to access and make use of the AIM technology quickly enough to kill Nimrod(he'll have to vaporize him into nothingness to get the job done) before Nimrod can blast the floating head.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    No, Blonsky thought "Gosh that guy works for the capitalist american pigs or whatever the fuck. Better give the soviets something similar."

    Basically what you're suggesting is that Captain America is dumb for the same reasons as Blonsky.

    Also: Blonsky is a KGB agent. They are not stupid. I don't know why you feel the need to defend a position that is so obviously incorrect.


    As for MODOK versus Nimrod, MODOK designed half the stuff AIM uses, so he knows how to operate it. Plus, AIM is known for their ridiculous and powerful weaponry. Their main base easily packs enough firepower to destroy Nimrod ten times over.

    Furthermore, total vaporization isn't necessary. Nimrod regenerates, but not too quickly. If you blast him to pieces, he'll probably be too preoccupied trying to piece himself back together than to fight.

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  • SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Guys, Guys, we're supposed to talk about reasons mysterio will win!

    I want him to win so badly. :(

    Abomination is going to wipe the floor with him unless we think of something ingenious!

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Spectre-x wrote:
    No, Blonsky thought "Gosh that guy works for the capitalist american pigs or whatever the fuck. Better give the soviets something similar."

    Basically what you're suggesting is that Captain America is dumb for the same reasons as Blonsky.

    Also: Blonsky is a KGB agent. They are not stupid. I don't know why you feel the need to defend a position that is so obviously incorrect.
    No. Captain America chose to undergo an experimental procedure that would give his scrawny ass toned buttocks, defined pecs, and a million dollar smile, all with the blessing of the US government. Blonsky, meanwhile, used the highly volatile and unpredictable Gamma Radiation to transform himself into the incredible finned shit, all without the blessing of his superiors or presence of scientists to help him if he should turn into a puddle.
    When the Hulk next changed back into Banner, the scientist decided to commit suicide in order to save the world from a Stranger-controlled Hulk. Banner made his way into his laboratory on the Air Force base and prepared to activate a machine that would bombard him with enough gamma radiation to kill him.

    Unknown to Banner, Blonsky was hiding in the laboratory, where he had been photographing Banner's gamma radiation equipment. Security officers burst in and carried Banner off. Unaware of the nature of the machine that Banner was about to use on himself, Blonsky stood in front of the machine and activated it.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    While not knowing for sure what the effects would be was a risk, you can't say becoming one of the strongest superhumans on the planet doesn't have a few perks, especially if you want it to start with, unlike Banner who didn't.


    I mean, if I had the choice, I'd have to give it some serious consideration.

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