ok, got my cd today. as most people have already said, breaking out, light up the night, and the hounds really stand out. have to say that i like the first ablum better. this one has a great deal of exposition, where as the last one explained circumstance through action, which i prefer
Really? You could figure out like 90% of the story in Act I by just listening to the songs, whereas most people people didn't even realize that the character Joe existed until they got to Here Comes the Arm. The liner notes in Act I mostly filled out background details, whereas this time around they cover a huge chunk of the narrative.
really? i find this album is almost nothing but people singing to themselves, where as almost everysong in act one was interaction between light and mega, or mega and proto, or the narrator
Really? You could figure out like 90% of the story in Act I by just listening to the songs, whereas most people people didn't even realize that the character Joe existed until they got to Here Comes the Arm. The liner notes in Act I mostly filled out background details, whereas this time around they cover a huge chunk of the narrative.
I thought he meant, like, exposition within the songs themselves. As in Act I explicitly told way more of the story through the songs themselves, while Act II had a lot of more atmospheric songs that you may not even were part of a story unless you were listening for it. I thought he was saying the opposite of that.
really? i find this album is almost nothing but people singing to themselves, where as almost everysong in act one was interaction between light and mega, or mega and proto, or the narrator
Actually to be fair, most of the time the characters are interacting with someone, just not someone with a singing part. Like Wily in the Hounds is singing to the reporters, and Joe in Breaking Out is singing to the girl in the bar/the people telling him to be quiet.
Act II definitely has more exposition, but I don't mind it because that's the whole point. Its place in the story was to flesh out the setting and characters from Act I. It also had the job of covering several decades and multiple important events, while most of Act I was just about the Mega Man vs Proto Man fight.
ah, what im saying is that act II had alot of people singing the things they felt to themselves or directly to the audience, where as in act I it was incorperated into the action and dialogue. the latter of which i prefer. which is why i think light up the night, the hounds, and breaking out are the real stand out songs on the album
ah, what im saying is that act II had alot of people singing the things they felt to themselves or directly to the audience, where as in act I it was incorperated into the action and dialogue. the latter of which i prefer. which is why i think light up the night, the hounds, and breaking out are the real stand out songs on the album
What about Good Doctor? That's a conversation between Light and Wily.
ah, what im saying is that act II had alot of people singing the things they felt to themselves or directly to the audience, where as in act I it was incorperated into the action and dialogue. the latter of which i prefer. which is why i think light up the night, the hounds, and breaking out are the real stand out songs on the album
What about Good Doctor? That's a conversation between Light and Wily.
ah, im not saying its the only thing that makes those songs great, but i think its a componant of it. Good doctor is a good song and i love the interaction between wily and light, and how it starts to introduce you to how undermining wily is. but for me it doesn't have the same draw as the other three which i can listen to as stand alone songs, where as good doctor i have to listen to in the context of the album.
as i listen to it more im sure i will start to hear new nuance and little things i didnt notice in this first day of ownership, but off the first listen and read through, these are the impressions i got
Act II definitely has more exposition, but I don't mind it because that's the whole point. Its place in the story was to flesh out the setting and characters from Act I. It also had the job of covering several decades and multiple important events, while most of Act I was just about the Mega Man vs Proto Man fight.
this is true, with the exposition they make it easier to cover more time and motives, which is really the purpose of a flash back. and they do a great job of that. i just find the album less appealing initially, which isnt to say it isnt a great album.
the first album i loved right off the first listen, this second one ill listen to a few time and ill grow to love it.
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Wily and light are pretty obviously performed by different singers
but Light and Joe are both panther
which is what confused me, before the liner notes into thinking Breaking Out, Keep Quiet and Light up the Night were all Dr Light since Joe was never really introduced lyrically
yeah, i should say unnessesary exposition, i feel a narrator speaking to the audience is fine, thats the whole purpose of a narrator, yet i hate it when a character does it. this is a problem i have with a lot of musicals and operas, if a person is feeling something that you want us to know about, have them express it through action or interaction. people dont just sit there and say what they feel when standing there by themselves.
but thats a topic for a theatre appreciation thread.
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yes, i have. im not saying that all they sing is explanation of what they're feeling, and i recognize that in opera by definition everything is sung, so the action and inter action is always expressed through song, but you often get a song or two of a single character on stage explaining why they feel a certain way, or how much they love someone, or why they have to poison a person. it happens alot more in musicals than opera, but this is something i dislike.
yes, i have. im not saying that all they sing is explanation of what they're feeling, and i recognize that in opera by definition everything is sung, so the action and inter action is always expressed through song, but you often get a song or two of a single character on stage explaining why they feel a certain way, or how much they love someone, or why they have to poison a person. it happens alot more in musicals than opera, but this is something i dislike.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this, so long as it isn't played out too literally.
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and then I listened to all of Act II for the first time, with liner notes
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Really? You could figure out like 90% of the story in Act I by just listening to the songs, whereas most people people didn't even realize that the character Joe existed until they got to Here Comes the Arm. The liner notes in Act I mostly filled out background details, whereas this time around they cover a huge chunk of the narrative.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I thought he meant, like, exposition within the songs themselves. As in Act I explicitly told way more of the story through the songs themselves, while Act II had a lot of more atmospheric songs that you may not even were part of a story unless you were listening for it. I thought he was saying the opposite of that.
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Actually to be fair, most of the time the characters are interacting with someone, just not someone with a singing part. Like Wily in the Hounds is singing to the reporters, and Joe in Breaking Out is singing to the girl in the bar/the people telling him to be quiet.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
That's what I'm getting from reading your posts.
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That's what I'm saying at least.
Not that I think that's a bad thing. All in all I like Act II better.
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What about Good Doctor? That's a conversation between Light and Wily.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
ah, im not saying its the only thing that makes those songs great, but i think its a componant of it. Good doctor is a good song and i love the interaction between wily and light, and how it starts to introduce you to how undermining wily is. but for me it doesn't have the same draw as the other three which i can listen to as stand alone songs, where as good doctor i have to listen to in the context of the album.
as i listen to it more im sure i will start to hear new nuance and little things i didnt notice in this first day of ownership, but off the first listen and read through, these are the impressions i got
also the good doctor is the best song
this is true, with the exposition they make it easier to cover more time and motives, which is really the purpose of a flash back. and they do a great job of that. i just find the album less appealing initially, which isnt to say it isnt a great album.
the first album i loved right off the first listen, this second one ill listen to a few time and ill grow to love it.
nope.
Wily and light are pretty obviously performed by different singers
but Light and Joe are both panther
which is what confused me, before the liner notes into thinking Breaking Out, Keep Quiet and Light up the Night were all Dr Light since Joe was never really introduced lyrically
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but thats a topic for a theatre appreciation thread.
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shit's full of soliloquies
one dude talking to himself about how he feels
not only that, but this is intended to be consumed in a purely musical fashion, we can't see facial expression or movement
it's pretty hard to divine emotional content from chord changes and instrumentation.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with this, so long as it isn't played out too literally.
But, a lot of the times, it is.
i also hate the soliliquies in shakespear.
im not saying my opinions are for everyone, or that i have a degree in music, thats just the way i feel about it
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