Where does fucking Thrall go? Way to make me go from excited for an expansion to fucking pissed.
I better be able to join some sort of Le Resistance.
The way they put it, he goes where the greatest shaman in the world goes when the elements are in chaos and in dire need of healing.
Presumably he's becoming a major NPC in a new neutral faction. They may be tying it into the comic storyline where the new council of tirisfal is seeking users of nature and holy magic instead of only arcane.
Since Blizzard's much more willing to do shifting storylines and major game world changes than they were in BC, hopefully they'll have something prepared to bring him back into the horde after his new job is finished. Considering how much of a douche Garrosh is and how much bad blood he's stirred up within the horde even before taking the reins (and how much more he's going to make when he tells two thirds of the horde they're not good enough to be in the REAL horde), maybe Orgrimar will see a repeat of the Undercity battle later in Cataclysm or next expansion after Deathwing's been dealt with.
But that's not all. Apparently the goblins' brush with slavery and death hasn't wiped out their unique sensibilities and philosophies, as they'll actually reshape Azshara to look like the Horde symbol.
This just sounds like a gnomish plot. Once they catch wind of this plan, you know they're going to copy it, and it'll be another three expansions before Gnomeregan is rebuilt. Again.
Gnomes are an egg laying mammal they would need all the shoreline they can get in order to expand the species
But that's not all. Apparently the goblins' brush with slavery and death hasn't wiped out their unique sensibilities and philosophies, as they'll actually reshape Azshara to look like the Horde symbol.
This just sounds like a gnomish plot. Once they catch wind of this plan, you know they're going to copy it, and it'll be another three expansions before Gnomeregan is rebuilt. Again.
my secret hope:
the gnomes somehow fuck up huge and turn stormwind into gnomeregan v2. it becomes a raid instance with leper wrynn as the final boss
I could've sworn they specifically said Deathwing would be in the initial release, which made sense when you consider that Aszhara wasn't going to be in with him, but is still listed as a major player on the website. Now he's going to be like Icecrown Citadel or something?
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I could've sworn they specifically said Deathwing would be in the initial release, which made sense when you consider that Aszhara wasn't going to be in with him, but is still listed as a major player on the website. Now he's going to be like Icecrown Citadel or something?
I could've sworn they specifically said Deathwing would be in the initial release, which made sense when you consider that Aszhara wasn't going to be in with him, but is still listed as a major player on the website. Now he's going to be like Icecrown Citadel or something?
wut?
Deathwing won't be a boss until a later date, as with Arthas and Icecrown Citadel, apparently. Which wasn't what was originally said at Blizzcon IIRC.
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I could've sworn they specifically said Deathwing would be in the initial release, which made sense when you consider that Aszhara wasn't going to be in with him, but is still listed as a major player on the website. Now he's going to be like Icecrown Citadel or something?
wut?
Deathwing won't be a boss until a later date, as with Arthas and Icecrown Citadel, apparently. Which wasn't what was originally said at Blizzcon IIRC.
Um, they've been pretty clear that Deathwing will be the final boss of Cataclysm all along.
I think they meant that Deathwing was going to be in the game, but not as a boss. Much in the way Arthas was throughout Wrath, though hopefully with less "Next time, Gadget!" thrown in. They have main villains for each expansion and don't want another TBC scenario where the big bad dies a patch early and we're on some lore tangent at the end. Lacks build-up.
And they're really dedicated to making the leaders douchebags instead of imperfect and nuanced characters. They just lack a subtle touch with this.
I think they meant that Deathwing was going to be in the game, but not as a boss. Much in the way Arthas was throughout Wrath, though hopefully with less "Next time, Gadget!" thrown in. They have main villains for each expansion and don't want another TBC scenario where the big bad dies a patch early and we're on some lore tangent at the end. Lacks build-up.
And they're really dedicated to making the leaders douchebags instead of imperfect and nuanced characters. They just lack a subtle touch with this.
Man that was the worst part of how he treated Arthas in this expansion:
"So we really want to build up Arthas as a major antagonist...by having him shake his fist at you and run away with 30% health every time you finish a questline".
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Arthas was always a putz. If anything, they've portrayed him just right.
The problem was simply removing Nerzhul from the equation and just making it super Arthas.
I don't even think of him as Super-Arthas. Arthas actually had a personality. This guy is just so flat and boring, even with the Mathias Lerner quests.
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The problem was simply removing Nerzhul from the equation and just making it super Arthas.
I always thought that was super lame. Having an interesting and lore important character go out like a punk offscreen. It also kind of makes Arthas being evil not really make any sense. He's evil just 'cuz.
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The problem was simply removing Nerzhul from the equation and just making it super Arthas.
I always thought that was super lame. Having an interesting and lore important character go out like a punk offscreen. It also kind of makes Arthas being evil not really make any sense. He's evil just 'cuz.
Arthas was evil by the time he hired mercenaries to destroy his ships then killed the mercenaries to cover his tracks.
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The problem was simply removing Nerzhul from the equation and just making it super Arthas.
I always thought that was super lame. Having an interesting and lore important character go out like a punk offscreen. It also kind of makes Arthas being evil not really make any sense. He's evil just 'cuz.
Arthas was evil by the time he hired mercenaries to destroy his ships then killed the mercenaries to cover his tracks.
Arthas was evil because his daddy never gave him enough responsiblity, or something.
Arthas is such a shit Nemesis. But Northrend is cool tho'
I'm impressed by the Biodiversity. Sholozar Basin in my favorite, although I really wish they'd made Azjol-Nerub into a fully-fledged zone as they originally intended.
Arthas is such a shit Nemesis. But Northrend is cool tho'
I'm impressed by the Biodiversity. Sholozar Basin in my favorite, although I really wish they'd made Azjol-Nerub into a fully-fledged zone as they originally intended.
Also a Grizzlemaw instance. I would have loved that, deku tree: WoW edition.
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Wasn't he the boss of Zul'Farrak?
I play horde, so I guess I wouldn't know much about an Alliance character.
I better be able to join some sort of Le Resistance.
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The way they put it, he goes where the greatest shaman in the world goes when the elements are in chaos and in dire need of healing.
Presumably he's becoming a major NPC in a new neutral faction. They may be tying it into the comic storyline where the new council of tirisfal is seeking users of nature and holy magic instead of only arcane.
Since Blizzard's much more willing to do shifting storylines and major game world changes than they were in BC, hopefully they'll have something prepared to bring him back into the horde after his new job is finished. Considering how much of a douche Garrosh is and how much bad blood he's stirred up within the horde even before taking the reins (and how much more he's going to make when he tells two thirds of the horde they're not good enough to be in the REAL horde), maybe Orgrimar will see a repeat of the Undercity battle later in Cataclysm or next expansion after Deathwing's been dealt with.
my secret hope:
How they are being revealed or what they are about?
I think what sucks, is that we'd all have gladly accepted Saurfang. That guy has so much good fucking will.
It better end up that way.
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wut?
Deathwing won't be a boss until a later date, as with Arthas and Icecrown Citadel, apparently. Which wasn't what was originally said at Blizzcon IIRC.
Um, they've been pretty clear that Deathwing will be the final boss of Cataclysm all along.
And they're really dedicated to making the leaders douchebags instead of imperfect and nuanced characters. They just lack a subtle touch with this.
Man that was the worst part of how he treated Arthas in this expansion:
"So we really want to build up Arthas as a major antagonist...by having him shake his fist at you and run away with 30% health every time you finish a questline".
I don't even think of him as Super-Arthas. Arthas actually had a personality. This guy is just so flat and boring, even with the Mathias Lerner quests.
WRATH OF THE VAN CLEEF
VAN CLEEFACLYSM
I like that it's never even updated to the expansion itself. all named for van cleef.
I want them to make Kael'thas a boss in Icecrown.
"I know what you're thinking, but Magister's Terrace was merely a setback!"
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I always thought that was super lame. Having an interesting and lore important character go out like a punk offscreen. It also kind of makes Arthas being evil not really make any sense. He's evil just 'cuz.
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Arthas was evil by the time he hired mercenaries to destroy his ships then killed the mercenaries to cover his tracks.
Arthas was evil because his daddy never gave him enough responsiblity, or something.
They've probably retconned it in the novel.
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I'm impressed by the Biodiversity. Sholozar Basin in my favorite, although I really wish they'd made Azjol-Nerub into a fully-fledged zone as they originally intended.
Also a Grizzlemaw instance. I would have loved that, deku tree: WoW edition.