that, however, opens up the door to whether it's legitimate to find a fictional character intriguing as a whole person - as you would a real individual. i think women and girls get off a lot easier with this - just take a look at the fandom for the twilight series. society has no stigma for those fantasies, although arguably their source material is just as shallow as video games. for men, though, to be attracted to a fictional character is often a cultural taboo.
Of course it's legitimate. To make believable, intriguing characters that people can care about and that can illicit real feelings is the whole fucking point. Anyone that cares about their writing craft wants to create characters that people can really connect with in ways negative or positive.
Stephenie Meyer may not be the best writer around, but to create a character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with is like a dream.
let's put it this way: nobody thinks a girl is a loser because she writes a romantic fanfic about herself and that dude from twilight.
What? Yes they do.
EVERYONE thinks a guy is a loser if he admits to being attracted to a fictional character, let alone writing a love story about it.
Only when they get fucking creepy about it or get crude and pathetic. When you're talking about gaming and anime communities, that's almost always.
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Oh Pika, I didn't mean anything by it.
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The OP's argument runs off in tangents, he starts off saying that it is silly to be attracted to video game characters. And then he argues that if the women in those pretty pictures can be considered beautiful why can't video game characters.
They can.
But there is a vast difference between saying a character is visually appealing and writing a fan fiction about how her boobs feel against her face.
I think it would be just as sad if someone said they wanted to bang the venus de milo.
Only when they get fucking creepy about it or get crude and pathetic. When you're talking about gaming and anime communities, that's almost always.
what makes gaming and anime get "fucking creepy about it", i wonder. is it the nature of an interactive experience or the strictures of anime convention?
Stephenie Meyer may not be the best writer around, but to create a character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with is like a dream.
wait, what?
so it's ok - no, scratch that, it's a fucking DREAM when you've got a male character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with?
and if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words about a female character, it's "fucking creepy".
ah, i don't get it. :P
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Well anyway, to answer the OP's question again, I think it's kind of impossible to not get turned on by this.
I think that's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. You really find that irresistible? That video is eye-rollingly hilarious.
Consciously finding something "irresistible" and being turned on (IE, poppin' a boner) are two different things dude.
One of these for example can happen whether you like it or not, unless you have a penis that wears a little monocle and tophat I guess.
Correct. I was speaking in purely a boner popping sense. As I said before, I don't actually give a toss about these girls beyond the physical appearance, therefore I'm not actually "attracted" to them.
Which is why it isn't too much of a stretch to feel attracted to an RPG character, as they're usually written in order for gamers to feel a certain connection or empathy from them. They're not always successful in the attempt, but I'm certain the intention is there.
Heck, many RPGs follow the dating sim approach, hence why you're given the option to be flirty toward one girl over the other. FFVII is the first example coming to mind, Persona 3 and 4 is the better example.
Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.
Only when they get fucking creepy about it or get crude and pathetic. When you're talking about gaming and anime communities, that's almost always.
what makes gaming and anime get "fucking creepy about it", i wonder. is it the nature of an interactive experience or the strictures of anime convention?
is it the relative youth of each medium?
I'd imagine it might have to do with the largest interested demographics.
Stephenie Meyer may not be the best writer around, but to create a character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with is like a dream.
wait, what?
so it's ok - no, scratch that, it's a fucking DREAM when you've got a male character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with?
and if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words about a female character, it's "fucking creepy".
ah, i don't get it. :P
No, it can get pretty weird when girls get obsessed with it, but take a look at how many gamers seem to focus on female characters in games and why.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable? No, not really. It's because they're totally hot and I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants. So yes, it is like a dream to write a character that people can fall in love with. Is it a dream to make a character that young males masturbate to?
Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.
Who cares? It happened. It's irrelevant whether her success was an accident or not.
Only when they get fucking creepy about it or get crude and pathetic. When you're talking about gaming and anime communities, that's almost always.
what makes gaming and anime get "fucking creepy about it", i wonder. is it the nature of an interactive experience or the strictures of anime convention?
is it the relative youth of each medium?
I'd imagine it might have to do with the largest interested demographics.
Stephenie Meyer may not be the best writer around, but to create a character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with is like a dream.
wait, what?
so it's ok - no, scratch that, it's a fucking DREAM when you've got a male character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with?
and if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words about a female character, it's "fucking creepy".
ah, i don't get it. :P
No, it can get pretty weird when girls get obsessed with it, but take a look at how many gamers seem to focus on female characters in games and why.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable? No, not really. It's because they're totally hot and I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants. So yes, it is like a dream to write a character that people can fall in love with. Is it a dream to make a character that young males masturbate to?
Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.
Who cares? It happened. It's irrelevant whether her success was an accident or not.
You're talking about love and lust, which are two closely related, but different things. Or someone was. Either way comparing Edward Cullen to the Dead or Alive girls is not a fair comparison. They're adored for entirely different reasons.
Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.
"BUT HE'S SO PRETTY! SQUEE!"
I knew someone who was a Twilight fangirl, thankfully I was able to subvert her to the wonderful world of Hellsing.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable?
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
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Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable?
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
I presume the worst because it's consistently demonstrated. In this forum, even.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable?
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
I presume the worst because it's consistently demonstrated. In this forum, even.
There are drawings of Sonic the Hedgehog having relations with Krystal from the Star Fox series ... and every one of you has glanced them at least once.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable?
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
I presume the worst because it's consistently demonstrated. In this forum, even.
so we might distill an answer to the OP's question: it's the general reaction of gamers, not the game content, that causes the current stigma.
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Edward Cullen is ridiculously popular amongst women who have never grown up because he is the ultimate fantasy: the de-fanged bad boy! And abusive? You mean concerned. That's right, he cares so much it appears as if he is trying to control every single facet of that lucky girl's life (and if she listened she'd of course be better off - he knows best, after all!)
God, I hate Stephanie Meyer.
For the record, it doesn't matter what you fantasize to when you decide to spank the monkey or itch the ditch, as long as you recognize it is a fantasy. You've got to do your actual living and loving out in the real world. And if you decide to tell your deepest darkest fantasy to someone else, you're going to be judged, and usually harshly. That's just the way it works.
I'd take Sam Fisher over Sparkles McLamepire any day of the week, but that's just how I roll.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable?
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
I presume the worst because it's consistently demonstrated. In this forum, even.
so we might distill an answer to the OP's question: it's the general reaction of gamers, not the game content, that causes the current stigma.
No, it's the intent of the creator. Always has been, always will be.
I think there's a difference between finding any sort of art or rendered image attractive, and actively pursuing a relationship with that image. (and that shit is real)
At least if he's fucking a pillow sham he can't procreate.
Can we not act like there's anything more than luck as a driving force of Stephenie Meyer's success? Because there is nothing unique or interesting about Edward Cullen. In fact his distinguishing characteristics are mostly being an incredibly blank slate with vaguely abusive tendencies.
It has fuck-all to do with luck. Stephanie Meyer's books tap into some deep-seated (and frankly disturbing) female romantic fantasies.
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Just replaced 10-yo brook shields as the creepiest goddamn thing posted to the thread.
Of course it's legitimate. To make believable, intriguing characters that people can care about and that can illicit real feelings is the whole fucking point. Anyone that cares about their writing craft wants to create characters that people can really connect with in ways negative or positive.
Stephenie Meyer may not be the best writer around, but to create a character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with is like a dream.
What? Yes they do.
Only when they get fucking creepy about it or get crude and pathetic. When you're talking about gaming and anime communities, that's almost always.
Oh Pika, I didn't mean anything by it.
They can.
But there is a vast difference between saying a character is visually appealing and writing a fan fiction about how her boobs feel against her face.
I think it would be just as sad if someone said they wanted to bang the venus de milo.
Satans..... hints.....
Plenty of people try to pass themselves as this to look cool on the internet.
And I call bullshit.
what makes gaming and anime get "fucking creepy about it", i wonder. is it the nature of an interactive experience or the strictures of anime convention?
is it the relative youth of each medium?
wait, what?
so it's ok - no, scratch that, it's a fucking DREAM when you've got a male character that girls and women all over the country have fallen in love with?
and if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words about a female character, it's "fucking creepy".
ah, i don't get it. :P
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Correct. I was speaking in purely a boner popping sense. As I said before, I don't actually give a toss about these girls beyond the physical appearance, therefore I'm not actually "attracted" to them.
Which is why it isn't too much of a stretch to feel attracted to an RPG character, as they're usually written in order for gamers to feel a certain connection or empathy from them. They're not always successful in the attempt, but I'm certain the intention is there.
Heck, many RPGs follow the dating sim approach, hence why you're given the option to be flirty toward one girl over the other. FFVII is the first example coming to mind, Persona 3 and 4 is the better example.
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I'd imagine it might have to do with the largest interested demographics.
No, it can get pretty weird when girls get obsessed with it, but take a look at how many gamers seem to focus on female characters in games and why.
Is it because these female videogame characters are interesting and complex and believable? No, not really. It's because they're totally hot and I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants. So yes, it is like a dream to write a character that people can fall in love with. Is it a dream to make a character that young males masturbate to?
Not really. That's easy.
Who cares? It happened. It's irrelevant whether her success was an accident or not.
You're talking about love and lust, which are two closely related, but different things. Or someone was. Either way comparing Edward Cullen to the Dead or Alive girls is not a fair comparison. They're adored for entirely different reasons.
"BUT HE'S SO PRETTY! SQUEE!"
I knew someone who was a Twilight fangirl, thankfully I was able to subvert her to the wonderful world of Hellsing.
i posit that they're about as complex and believable as mr sparkly vampire
besides, i meant it when i said "if a male gamer or anime fan says the same thing in as many words", i.e., "i've fallen in love with character X", NOT "I'd totally bang her and by the way, I need to change my pants."
there's a difference, but you can see how the normal presumption (which you kindly demonstrated) is to assume the worst.
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I presume the worst because it's consistently demonstrated. In this forum, even.
There are drawings of Sonic the Hedgehog having relations with Krystal from the Star Fox series ... and every one of you has glanced them at least once.
so we might distill an answer to the OP's question: it's the general reaction of gamers, not the game content, that causes the current stigma.
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God, I hate Stephanie Meyer.
For the record, it doesn't matter what you fantasize to when you decide to spank the monkey or itch the ditch, as long as you recognize it is a fantasy. You've got to do your actual living and loving out in the real world. And if you decide to tell your deepest darkest fantasy to someone else, you're going to be judged, and usually harshly. That's just the way it works.
I'd take Sam Fisher over Sparkles McLamepire any day of the week, but that's just how I roll.
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But seriously this is the worst thread.
It has fuck-all to do with luck. Stephanie Meyer's books tap into some deep-seated (and frankly disturbing) female romantic fantasies.