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    El GuacoEl Guaco Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The new engy stuff is better than I had hoped, but since the only thing I've picked up is the new shotgun, I find myself at a huge disadvantage against other engys. I got on JonXP's server because the Drama Chamber was full, and there were just a few people on, most of them engys with all the upgrades. I tried to go engy and got my ass handed to me again and again. We were on Hightower and suddenly there were 2 or 3 mini sentrys pointing at our main spawn door. What was Valve thinking? I quit because I just couldn't bear the idea of spending the next hour or two dying repeatedly while not being able to get any achievements towards the unlocks. I don't know if it's the new unlocks or the new maps, or a combo of the two but I feel like I missed the Gold Rush for Engys and it's going to take me hopping on an achievement server just to catch up. The ironic thing is that Engy is my 2nd most played class. *sigh*

    OK, done bitching.

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I you are getting shut down by other engineers

    Then I think you need to pick a new class to main

    Maybe demoman?

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    tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I totally own with the regular engineer weapons

    So many other bad engineers, it ain't hard

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    GumpyGumpy There is always a greater powerRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    mini sentries cannot be used for static defences

    This should not be a problem someone has

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    GnomocideGnomocide Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    El Guaco; It took me around 4-5 hours to reach milestone 3 on the very night the update was released. Needless to say, I wasn't the only engie around yet it worked out fine. Demomen and soldiers are far more dangerous than wimpy engies...

    If you're getting spawncamped by mini-sentries you're on the wrong end of a steamroll (and a bad one at that). Minisentries go down incredibly easy - an engie can run up to one and punch it 'till it breaks without dying. Shotgun those suckers twice from mid-range and down they go. Soldiers/demos/heavies also eat them for breakfast.

    Also using the FJ with the mini sentries isn't always the best idea - while the crits can save your ass, the extra 3 shells in the regular shotgun are a godsend. As a gunslinger engie, the mini-sentry is merely a distraction - the real damage comes from you as you shotgun fools while dancing around your tiny sentry, throwing up new ones as they get taken down.

    edit: oh you don't have the gunslinger yet. At any rate, if you want to play combat/offensive engie, the regular shotgun is a reliable gun where the FJ can be both awesome and terrible, depending on a lot of factors.

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    donhonkdonhonk Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Screendump time.

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    JintorJintor Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gumpy wrote: »
    mini sentries cannot be used for static defences

    This should not be a problem someone has

    Engaging defence!

    /edit Also, are we agreed that all three new maps are badass? Though I still need to think a little about Thunder Mountain

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    DaiusDaius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hightower is the most badass

    It makes me believe in the power of PLR

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    GnomocideGnomocide Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Daius wrote: »
    Hightower is the most badass

    It makes me believe in the power of PLR

    Don't know about that. In general I think the map is very interesting (both visually and gameplay-vise), but having that uphill-stretch right next to spawn is just asking for stalemates.

    What is it with Valve and putting important objectives near the enemy spawn? Quite the twisted fetish...

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    DaiusDaius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gnomocide wrote: »
    Daius wrote: »
    Hightower is the most badass

    It makes me believe in the power of PLR

    Don't know about that. In general I think the map is very interesting (both visually and gameplay-vise), but having that uphill-stretch right next to spawn is just asking for stalemates.

    What is it with Valve and putting important objectives near the enemy spawn? Quite the twisted fetish...

    I don't think I've played a single round of Hightower that has ended in a stalemate though. Most of the time a group usually breaks through and pushes the cart up that hill uninterrupted and then the hectic clamour for control of the highground begins.

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    BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    DualEdge wrote: »
    There used to be a time when the decloaking wasn't obnoxiously loud (pre-Dead Ringer), which was also the time when these videos were made. So it was very possible to decloak behind someone and stab them without making yourself known.
    The decloak sound was never so quiet you could miss it. 8(
    Carnarvon wrote: »
    How does he manage to backstab people without the animation coming up? It's hard enough doing it when it IS up.
    A fair few servers turned off the backstab animation to give spies faster backstabs before it was patched in.
    Daius wrote: »
    I don't think I've played a single round of Hightower that has ended in a stalemate though.
    PLR maps don't time out. You keep going until one team wins. It's a real pain.

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    ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Those mini sentries shoot so slowly and have such low health, can't be repaired. a moderate amount of offense splashing about should take them out.

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    beth every server had quickstab backstabs when he made those videos

    it was a thing to do, to backstab from a little further back to guarantee a quick backstab rather than a slow one with the animation

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    tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Those mini sentries shoot so slowly and have such low health, can't be repaired. a moderate amount of offense splashing about should take them out.

    They actually fire much faster than a regular level 1 sentry.

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    ElementalorElementalor Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    tofu wrote: »
    Those mini sentries shoot so slowly and have such low health, can't be repaired. a moderate amount of offense splashing about should take them out.

    They actually fire much faster than a regular level 1 sentry.

    Hmmm maybe that's the case? The sound is super slow I know and each shot is around 8-9 damage.

    Also I will be the greatest battle engi evarrr.

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    BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    beth every server had quickstab backstabs when he made those videos

    it was a thing to do, to backstab from a little further back to guarantee a quick backstab rather than a slow one with the animation
    Nope.

    I played on a few servers regularly around the time Goldrush was released (which is around the time that video came out), and on some you couldn't backstab if you didn't have the animation, and on others, the animation was never present (even if you were right behind the guy) and it was always a faststab.

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Bethryn wrote: »
    beth every server had quickstab backstabs when he made those videos

    it was a thing to do, to backstab from a little further back to guarantee a quick backstab rather than a slow one with the animation
    Nope.

    I played on a few servers regularly around the time Goldrush was released (which is around the time that video came out), and on some you couldn't backstab if you didn't have the animation, and on others, the animation was never present (even if you were right behind the guy) and it was always a faststab.

    uh

    i mean, i guess there could have been servers that did that

    but the way the game worked at that time, barring any server mods, is how i stated it

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Peewi wrote: »
    Lokiamis wrote: »
    Carnarvon wrote: »
    How does he manage to backstab people without the animation coming up? It's hard enough doing it when it IS up.

    The animation wasn't always in the game.

    I thought that there was always backstab animations, but they just didn't come up for the quickstab.

    It used to be that the backstab animation only happened after you clicked the button from the appropriate place, causing a delay before you actually hit them. So the "quickstab" involved avoided triggering that animation but then hitting them in the back anyway for a backstab. They changed it so the animation is just a notice that you're in backstab range and all swings are instant.

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    psyck0psyck0 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Jesus your game looks good Donhonk. I am at maxed everything, 1900x1080, except only 4x antialiasing, and I am not certain it looks as good as that. What is your secret?

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    BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Donhonk captured me with my fancy wig

    Here's some pictures, starring Optimal Table, Jay Kaos, Richard Parker, you're tearing me apart valve, Gob Bluth, and Rygar:
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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    psyck0 wrote: »
    Jesus your game looks good Donhonk. I am at maxed everything, 1900x1080, except only 4x antialiasing, and I am not certain it looks as good as that. What is your secret?

    I'm using pretty much the same settings as you and my game looks about as good as Don's.

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    BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hey guys get what this does
    1. Enable "Remember active weapon between lives" in Options -> Multiplayer -> Advanced.
    2. Equip a secondary that is non passive and have it out.
    3. In Backpack equip Targe, Gunboats or Razorback. (Don't go to a locker.)
    4. Kill yourself.

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i'm not even shocked anymore that it keeps coming back

    i think at this point valve has someone who is on top of reintroducing civilian back into the game every ten patches

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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I have been toying around with the idea of organizing another all PA tournament. Before I start even planning, though, I would like to get a good idea of who all would be interested. If enough of you are, I will start making plans.

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    SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I am so interested

    I will bop all you scrubs

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i would have some interest, would potentially have more interest depending on format you were shooting for

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    nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i will

    but i make no promises i will not taunt

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    undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    also i need to buy a mic gat damn

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I am interested in healing everyone involved. Healing them to death.

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    ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That_Guy wrote: »
    I have been toying around with the idea of organizing another all PA tournament. Before I start even planning, though, I would like to get a good idea of who all would be interested. If enough of you are, I will start making plans.

    Is it just for

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpxn57m1Mmw

    or are there prizes.

    I'll be in if its just to be the best, around. where nothing can ever keep me down.

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    tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    A tournament that is not highlander would be fun

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    TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'd be down for a tournament

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    DeswaDeswa Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'd be interested, a chance to back stab new faces (get it?).

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    tofu wrote: »
    A tournament that is not highlander would be fun

    I think I would be more interested if it's highlander than if it isn't.

    Either way, I'd be interested if the matches aren't in the middle of the night for me.

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    ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    If its Highlander I call Sniper or Heavy. in that order.

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    SuMa.LustreSuMa.Lustre Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    man if there's a tourney I better get back into training

    edit: buttcleft can't snipe his way out of a wet paper bag

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    ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    man if there's a tourney I better get back into training

    edit: buttcleft can't snipe his way out of a wet paper bag

    I sniped your mother in her vagina, then twice in the head for good measure.

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    tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well, this just got uncomfortable

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    HunteraHuntera Rude Boy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'd most likely participate.

    If it was Highlander, I'd probably be pyro or spy

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    BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I might be in, but I don't know if I should push my luck after having such an awesome team last time.

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