Okay, I'll try to get an update in before the weekend. End date is the start of 1399? Not likely I'll hit it in my turn, but theres always the outside chance.
Okay, I've got the save, everything seems to be working fine. Brief state of the union is below, with map pictures for those who are into that.
Our glorious king
And the world in general:
We still have a lot of land all over the place, and Michael only has one child, so splitting the realm is going to require a lot of procreation At the moment this five year old son is all that stands between a reunification of Egypt and Burgundy.
Before I get too involved, I'm a bit vague on the mechanics of creating kingdoms. If I create, say, a king of Leon, will he automatically get all the related duchies as vassals, or am I going to need to manually give him those titles beforehand to hand out as he sees fit? I notice that our king of Castille is missing a lot of land that should logically be his.
Sort of, when I tried it it didn't seem to work so well. I think only duchies and counties with capitals in the kingdom you're giving away will actually switch
Seems that we're getting close to the end of CK. I think the general interest will pick up when EU comes into play, seeing how more people have played it and might be more willing to pick up the turns.
Actually the basic limits with the restriction of never exceeding them would be fine. The badboy wars aren't all that bad once you have a bit of territory, although I guess the difficulty of BB wars would depend on if we border a major power and/or do HRE shenanigans.
I come all the way from the paradox forums, just to say, that we are all very very VERY proud of you. :')
But.
Why Burgundy of all things? It's COA is just so ugly..
That happened on my turn, and basically the realm was collapsing, and there was a ridiculous chance to snag the Burgundian crown and a bunch of their holdings quickly, which stabilized the situation. I tried to get the French crown earlier, but the little bastards kept fleeing further and further from me with every conquest I made, and when they relocated to Spain I couldn't follow any longer. At least that's what I think happened, it's been a while.
Also, the red color is better since there were the Swedes and the French and whatnot in the area, so it was easier to distinguish holdings without jumping between viewing modes. But yeah, it was pretty much an aberration.
Hey guys, I've been following for a while and I was interested in playing when you guys hit EU3. I see you guys claim turns, but I'm not sure what to do. I just wanted to express my interest in playing when the EU3 leg rolls around.
I'm personally interested in how the EU3 game plays out. I don't have EU3, but I'm interested from all the LP's I've read - just not sure if I'm ready yet. Reading the LP here will add more knowledge before I decide to purchase the game, I guess.
Now that the burden of the crown has fallen to us, we must needs let others care for our children so that we do not neglect our new duties.
Our reign starts auspiciously, with our vassals showing appreciation for our just and fair rule, and others wishing petitioning to share in the prosperity.
Unfortunately some of our new subjects clearly see us as an easy target, now that our father no longer reigns. They raise bloody rebellion against their rightful liege.
The realm tetters on the brink of civil war. Why had my fathers loyal subjects turned against me, his son and heir, their rightful king? I, who only sought the best interest of the realm. I begin to suspect that the Lord is testing me. I will strive to meet this challenge.
(Incidentally, I got a lot of independence notification without any information about who was seceeding, so I'm not entirely sure what land I lost in this process)
Our increasingly disloyal vassals have the temerity to demand changes in the succession laws, as if to say they do not consider house Vermadois worthy of the throne!
Alas this constant warfare and struggle for supremacy has left our reputation in tatters. His eminence the Pope somehow disapproves of our efforts to retain our birthright. In the end, we make the difficult decision that God's favour far outweighs martial glory, and for the nonce we let unruly vassals depart peacefully, such that we might win Papal favour and regain the imperial title which has yet been denied us. If we were to regain imperial status, perhaps our former vassals will see the error of their ways.
We lose the greater part of Sicily to this villainy, and even our own blood turns against us, declaring an indepdendent Duchy of Damascus. We fear that with all the struggle around our Burgundian homeland, waging war to retain such distant holdings must needs wait for a more opportune time.
A tragedy at home, as our beloved wife loses a child.
We regain papal favor to an extent, and this appears to work in our favour as once again lords beg to be part of mighty Burgundy.
Peace is short lived. A civil war to put all previous disturbances in the shade soon emerges, with Aquitaine, Galicia and Champagne all abrogating the pledges of fealty and bringing upon their heads our righteous wrath.
After the loss of our unborn child earlier, more effort must be made to ensure the continuation of the dynasty.
Our wayward vassals are brought back into line one by one, but our misfortune never lets up. We begin to feel like Job, a rightout man perpetually tested by a seemingly unjust world.
So much struggle, and we are once again in disfavour with the Pope. Our realm crumbles as we try to keep God's peace, but war is still perpetually thrust upon us, and still we are denied our imperial heritage.
If the realm keeps falling apart at this rate, we won't even need to split it up at the end. Not sure why everyone hates Michael so, but we've lost a large portion of our eastern holdings by now.
You had almost the exact same duchies turn on you. Galacia came back into the fold but I had an insane prestige score when it happened towards the end of the Ducal War. Fortunately they might join up with the Kingdom of Leon. I actually hope Damascus (your Great-Uncle if I remember correctly) does well. His holdings far exceed anything the Crusaders pulled off. The world will likely be a better safer place. In fact, as long as no catastrophe hits them, they might make a worthy opponent come Vicky II (a Christian civilized middle east with access to the Suez if Egypt and Damascus re-unite).
Galicia actually declared independence via a war, was brought back into the fold, and then declared independence without a war later on, so they just seem determined to leave. Is there any way to actually tell who is leaving in those "A vassal has declared independence" messages? I've had heaps of them, and I'm not even sure what I've lost apart from what I've noticed on the map.
We have shamefully actually lost the duchy of burgundy at the moment, I will probably make a point of reclaiming that one.
Galicia actually declared independence via a war, was brought back into the fold, and then declared independence without a war later on, so they just seem determined to leave. Is there any way to actually tell who is leaving in those "A vassal has declared independence" messages? I've had heaps of them, and I'm not even sure what I've lost apart from what I've noticed on the map.
It took me awhile to figure this out, but yes.
Make sure the game is paused, and look in the message log history. When a vassal declares independence, your ruler gains a claim on all of their personal holdings.
So, you can flip back through the message log, and you'll see something like:
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Duke of Galicia
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Blah
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Bleh
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Blih
So, you know it was the Duke of Galicia who declared independence. You don't get a claim on any of their vassals, who automatically go with them.
Yeah, trouble is I think we already have claims on pretty much all our vassals from previous civil wars So I could do that in some cases, but not all.
You still get the message, I think. Just like you can gain the same trait multiple times, even though it doesn't stack.
EDIT: Like, when forcing a rebellious Duke back into the fold, I usually recognize his count titles first, and only recognize his Ducal titles if I have to. I still got the "Claim on Duke of X" messages each time.
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And the world in general:
We still have a lot of land all over the place, and Michael only has one child, so splitting the realm is going to require a lot of procreation At the moment this five year old son is all that stands between a reunification of Egypt and Burgundy.
Before I get too involved, I'm a bit vague on the mechanics of creating kingdoms. If I create, say, a king of Leon, will he automatically get all the related duchies as vassals, or am I going to need to manually give him those titles beforehand to hand out as he sees fit? I notice that our king of Castille is missing a lot of land that should logically be his.
If you get an idiot for a king, you RP as an idiot?
Heavy modding?
There will be some badboy limits, yes.
You'll probably have to make it something ridiculously low. Like 10. Or 5. Anything else and we're gonna stomp our way through Europe.
But.
Why Burgundy of all things? It's COA is just so ugly..
It was a historical accident!
My instinct is like... 12. Possibly 10.
That happened on my turn, and basically the realm was collapsing, and there was a ridiculous chance to snag the Burgundian crown and a bunch of their holdings quickly, which stabilized the situation. I tried to get the French crown earlier, but the little bastards kept fleeing further and further from me with every conquest I made, and when they relocated to Spain I couldn't follow any longer. At least that's what I think happened, it's been a while.
Also, the red color is better since there were the Swedes and the French and whatnot in the area, so it was easier to distinguish holdings without jumping between viewing modes. But yeah, it was pretty much an aberration.
Our reign starts auspiciously, with our vassals showing appreciation for our just and fair rule, and others wishing petitioning to share in the prosperity.
Unfortunately some of our new subjects clearly see us as an easy target, now that our father no longer reigns. They raise bloody rebellion against their rightful liege.
The realm tetters on the brink of civil war. Why had my fathers loyal subjects turned against me, his son and heir, their rightful king? I, who only sought the best interest of the realm. I begin to suspect that the Lord is testing me. I will strive to meet this challenge.
(Incidentally, I got a lot of independence notification without any information about who was seceeding, so I'm not entirely sure what land I lost in this process)
Our increasingly disloyal vassals have the temerity to demand changes in the succession laws, as if to say they do not consider house Vermadois worthy of the throne!
Alas this constant warfare and struggle for supremacy has left our reputation in tatters. His eminence the Pope somehow disapproves of our efforts to retain our birthright. In the end, we make the difficult decision that God's favour far outweighs martial glory, and for the nonce we let unruly vassals depart peacefully, such that we might win Papal favour and regain the imperial title which has yet been denied us. If we were to regain imperial status, perhaps our former vassals will see the error of their ways.
We lose the greater part of Sicily to this villainy, and even our own blood turns against us, declaring an indepdendent Duchy of Damascus. We fear that with all the struggle around our Burgundian homeland, waging war to retain such distant holdings must needs wait for a more opportune time.
A tragedy at home, as our beloved wife loses a child.
We regain papal favor to an extent, and this appears to work in our favour as once again lords beg to be part of mighty Burgundy.
Peace is short lived. A civil war to put all previous disturbances in the shade soon emerges, with Aquitaine, Galicia and Champagne all abrogating the pledges of fealty and bringing upon their heads our righteous wrath.
After the loss of our unborn child earlier, more effort must be made to ensure the continuation of the dynasty.
Our wayward vassals are brought back into line one by one, but our misfortune never lets up. We begin to feel like Job, a rightout man perpetually tested by a seemingly unjust world.
So much struggle, and we are once again in disfavour with the Pope. Our realm crumbles as we try to keep God's peace, but war is still perpetually thrust upon us, and still we are denied our imperial heritage.
If the realm keeps falling apart at this rate, we won't even need to split it up at the end. Not sure why everyone hates Michael so, but we've lost a large portion of our eastern holdings by now.
26 years to reduce ourselves to the areas around Paris!
We have shamefully actually lost the duchy of burgundy at the moment, I will probably make a point of reclaiming that one.
It took me awhile to figure this out, but yes.
Make sure the game is paused, and look in the message log history. When a vassal declares independence, your ruler gains a claim on all of their personal holdings.
So, you can flip back through the message log, and you'll see something like:
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Duke of Galicia
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Blah
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Bleh
Centule King of Burgundy has a claim on Count of Blih
So, you know it was the Duke of Galicia who declared independence. You don't get a claim on any of their vassals, who automatically go with them.
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You still get the message, I think. Just like you can gain the same trait multiple times, even though it doesn't stack.
EDIT: Like, when forcing a rebellious Duke back into the fold, I usually recognize his count titles first, and only recognize his Ducal titles if I have to. I still got the "Claim on Duke of X" messages each time.
I could be misremembering, though.
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