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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    So out of twisted machoism, I'm currently playing a femshep uber-paragon xeno loving (literally) carebear.

    Must. Resist. Urge. To. Slit. Wrists. Hurrrgh.

    Para femshep's solution to everything is to kiss it and make it better. Hell, she'd probably stick her tounge down Saren's throat if it would save the galaxy.

    I just want to finish the run so I can get back to punching people in the face like God intended.

    I tried that once. Yeah, pure paragon hurts. Had to run a failshep and a standard badass-Shep at the same time to make up for it.

    But it'll all be worth in in 3 if any of it comes back to bite her in her sanctimonious arse.
    Paragon Shep will be going into the final fight of ME3 flanked by the Quarian Fleet, the entire geth species, a newly revived Krogan Empire and the collective might of the Council species.

    Riding a Rachni Queen.

    Renegade Shep gets three human redshirts and a Cerberus-issue moped.

    Oh, pure renegade would be even worse, yeah.

    Saying anything to TIM that is not a variant on "kiss my ass" would be wrong.

    But going pure paragon means a lot of irritating little speeches about how Mordin is a bad person.

    And anyone insulting the good Doctor ain't getting in the positive portion of my books.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So it turns out that;

    (Sentinel + Mattock + Tungsten Ammo) x Insanity = (Virtually everything else) x Veteran

    This is really starting to feel like cheating.

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    Evil WeevilEvil Weevil Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    So out of twisted machoism, I'm currently playing a femshep uber-paragon xeno loving (literally) carebear.

    Must. Resist. Urge. To. Slit. Wrists. Hurrrgh.

    Para femshep's solution to everything is to kiss it and make it better. Hell, she'd probably stick her tounge down Saren's throat if it would save the galaxy.

    I just want to finish the run so I can get back to punching people in the face like God intended.

    I tried that once. Yeah, pure paragon hurts. Had to run a failshep and a standard badass-Shep at the same time to make up for it.

    But it'll all be worth in in 3 if any of it comes back to bite her in her sanctimonious arse.
    Paragon Shep will be going into the final fight of ME3 flanked by the Quarian Fleet, the entire geth species, a newly revived Krogan Empire and the collective might of the Council species.

    Riding a Rachni Queen.

    Renegade Shep gets three human redshirts and a Cerberus-issue moped.

    ...Are you implying only bad asses choose the hard way?

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    joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    So out of twisted machoism, I'm currently playing a femshep uber-paragon xeno loving (literally) carebear.

    Must. Resist. Urge. To. Slit. Wrists. Hurrrgh.

    Para femshep's solution to everything is to kiss it and make it better. Hell, she'd probably stick her tounge down Saren's throat if it would save the galaxy.

    I just want to finish the run so I can get back to punching people in the face like God intended.

    I tried that once. Yeah, pure paragon hurts. Had to run a failshep and a standard badass-Shep at the same time to make up for it.

    But it'll all be worth in in 3 if any of it comes back to bite her in her sanctimonious arse.
    Paragon Shep will be going into the final fight of ME3 flanked by the Quarian Fleet, the entire geth species, a newly revived Krogan Empire and the collective might of the Council species.

    Riding a Rachni Queen.

    Renegade Shep gets three human redshirts and a Cerberus-issue moped.

    ...Are you implying only bad asses choose the hard way?

    Retarded Renegade Shep

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    100% renegade, 80% paragon, 280% awesome

    that's how my Shep rolls

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    So out of twisted machoism, I'm currently playing a femshep uber-paragon xeno loving (literally) carebear.

    Must. Resist. Urge. To. Slit. Wrists. Hurrrgh.

    Para femshep's solution to everything is to kiss it and make it better. Hell, she'd probably stick her tounge down Saren's throat if it would save the galaxy.

    I just want to finish the run so I can get back to punching people in the face like God intended.

    I tried that once. Yeah, pure paragon hurts. Had to run a failshep and a standard badass-Shep at the same time to make up for it.

    But it'll all be worth in in 3 if any of it comes back to bite her in her sanctimonious arse.
    Paragon Shep will be going into the final fight of ME3 flanked by the Quarian Fleet, the entire geth species, a newly revived Krogan Empire and the collective might of the Council species.

    Riding a Rachni Queen.

    Renegade Shep gets three human redshirts and a Cerberus-issue moped.

    Oh, pure renegade would be even worse, yeah.

    Saying anything to TIM that is not a variant on "kiss my ass" would be wrong.

    But going pure paragon means a lot of irritating little speeches about how Mordin is a bad person.

    And anyone insulting the good Doctor ain't getting in the positive portion of my books.

    Another reason I can't do pure either...I mean, I understand the necessity of some things...

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I never had enough renegade points to break up Tali and Legion.

    I couldn't justify the unmitigated asshole-for-sake-of-being-an-asshole decisions along the way there.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    kedinik wrote: »
    I never had enough renegade points to break up Tali and Legion.

    I couldn't justify the unmitigated asshole-for-sake-of-being-an-asshole decisions along the way there.
    The paragon choice is about halfway for that one, by the way. The two fights have opposite requirements; Tali/Legion low paragon high renegade, Miranda/Jack high paragon low renegade

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    NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I can't play as Paragon. I think it is dull as hell

    Renegade is so much better.

    The only paragon options I take are for when I am dealing with my own crew

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If people are nice to my Shepard, they get the paragon. If they are a dick to my Shepard, well, he isn't responsible for his actions. Basically I play him like Richard Sharpe. If you piss him him off he'll shove a broken telescope tube into your genitles.

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    Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I go about 90/10 paragon/renegade. I'm not fond of being a space asshole and I mainly gain renegade points through interrupts. Plus I like being a nice person, and saying slightly cheesy and silly things about the value of civilian lives.

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    DogEightDogEight Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    "You're working too hard" and the shocked salarian in Miranda's loyalty mission are mandatory for me in every playthrough.

    Renegade Shep does it for the laughs and Paragon Shep does it because (s)he's not an idiot who will pass up an opportune moment to stack the deck.

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Elendil wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    I never had enough renegade points to break up Tali and Legion.

    I couldn't justify the unmitigated asshole-for-sake-of-being-an-asshole decisions along the way there.
    The paragon choice is about halfway for that one, by the way. The two fights have opposite requirements; Tali/Legion low paragon high renegade, Miranda/Jack high paragon low renegade

    Interesting.

    I never really do paragon playthroughs so I never knew this.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Nearly done, but man, I'll have to do a queen bitch badass Shepard to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

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    Dharma BumDharma Bum Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Redoing my canon run now that I know that I won't be punished for letting people I don't like or care about die on collector mission for ME3. Need advice please. How do I kill off exactly only Jack and Jacob in collector base?

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    Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Dharma Bum wrote: »
    Redoing my canon run now that I know that I won't be punished for letting people I don't like or care about die on collector mission for ME3. Need advice please. How do I kill off exactly only Jack and Jacob in collector base?

    Don't upgrade the ship armor and send Jacob through the vents. Also, if you don't have Zaeed and Kasumi or like to take Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed to the final battle, send Mordin to escort the survivors back to the ship.

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    Dharma BumDharma Bum Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Z0re wrote: »
    Dharma Bum wrote: »
    Redoing my canon run now that I know that I won't be punished for letting people I don't like or care about die on collector mission for ME3. Need advice please. How do I kill off exactly only Jack and Jacob in collector base?

    Don't upgrade the ship armor and send Jacob through the vents. Also, if you don't have Zaeed and Kasumi or like to take Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed to the final battle, send Mordin to escort the survivors back to the ship.

    I sincerely appreciate the direct and practical answer.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    ...Are you implying only bad asses choose the hard way?

    There's the right way, the wrong way, and the [strike]cowboy[/strike]Renegade Shep way.

    And I don't think I can play Shep any other way than being Paragon to crewmates and civilians and Renegade to anyone who points a gun at me, mouths off, or looks at me sideways.

    That Eclipse merc is never going to take the elevator down.

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    Dharma BumDharma Bum Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Lawndart wrote: »
    ...Are you implying only bad asses choose the hard way?

    There's the right way, the wrong way, and the [strike]cowboy[/strike]Renegade Shep way.

    And I don't think I can play Shep any other way than being Paragon to crewmates and civilians and Renegade to anyone who points a gun at me, mouths off, or looks at me sideways.

    That Eclipse merc is never going to take the elevator down.

    Ha! Hahaha! Because you push him out the window, right? I get the joke you made; I see what you did there. :lol:

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I think I played through as a pure paragon once

    Still have nightmares about it

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    Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Pure Paragon is awful, it's all. "Let's all hold hands and be best friends forever!" Fuck that! Sometimes you just gotta shoot a motherfucker, or throw him out a window, or snap his neck, or....

    Of course, pure Renegade is also awful, pure Renegades are just pointless space-assholes.

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Lawful Stupid

    or Chaotic Stupid

    You get punished if you don't choose one

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ad astra wrote: »
    Pure Paragon is awful, it's all. "Let's all hold hands and be best friends forever!" Fuck that! Sometimes you just gotta shoot a motherfucker, or throw him out a window, or snap his neck, or....

    Of course, pure Renegade is also awful, pure Renegades are just pointless space-assholes.

    The worst bit of pure paragon?

    The condescending lectures.

    I mean, it'd be tolerable if they were reserved for bad people, but most times renegade is at least somewhat reasonable?

    Picking pure paragon doesn't even mean saying "I think there's a better way". It means saying the renegade option is for HORRIBLE PEOPLE who EAT PUPPIES.

    I mean, Mordin is clearly torn up already. No need to be an asshole at him.

    Stupid paragons.

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    RakkahRakkah Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yup - renegade to anyone who pulls a gun or mouths off or is generally irritating and / or a waste of time, paragon to the crew for the most part. Ended up with a very full renegade bar and a 3 block full paragon one - enough to break up Tali / Legion with renegade options and awesome terminator eyes. My femshep looks 110% badass.

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    curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    the paragon options on mordin's loyalty are more asshole-ish than any renegade dialogue choice in the rest of the game

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    hey Mordin remember when you literally strangled krogan fetuses with your bare hands

    how can you look at yourself in the mirror knowing you personally castrated every living krogan

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    Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    the paragon options on mordin's loyalty are more asshole-ish than any renegade dialogue choice in the rest of the game

    I know!

    Mordin: "Genophage was necessary. No other way. But designed it to cause minimal damage. Stabilize population"

    Paragon Shep: "You're a horrible monster Mordin! You eat puppies for breakfast, and kittens for dinner! You might not know who Hitler is, but you are literally worse than him!"

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    paragoning Jack is the best because she is completely baffled why you're being her friend/romance and Shepard can't give a decent answer besides her career as an amateur therapist

    renegade just tells her to shut up and do her work

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    AuberonAuberon Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    -Tal wrote: »
    paragoning Jack is the best because she is completely baffled why you're being her friend/romance and Shepard can't give a decent answer besides her career as an amateur therapist

    Well, it seems to work for Yeoman Chambers.

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    glithertglithert Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her

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    DarisDaris Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Wow, so much paragon hate. At least someone can make a recommendation to paragon shep without getting reminded who's in charge. Renegade Shepard is far more annoying to play. Sure you get to shoot more assholes, but you're the asshole. I'm amazed a pure renegade doesn't get dropped leaving the collector base.

    I can't stand playing pure renegade. I need to stop and hug Tali to keep myself sane. Renegade is such an insecure childish pecker.

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    SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    glithert wrote: »
    What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her

    Well, what it's going to be? Paragon? Both? Just like with shooting the LOKI's head off on Garrus's recruitment, renegade interrupt is linked to the "pull trigger" button in combat, which is why the interrupts are reversed left/right between PC and 360, left click and right trigger.

    Points wise, renegade = violent action. Doesn't mean "evil."

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    glithert wrote: »
    What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her

    You have no idea who she is or is going to shoot you with her gun

    I'd say that's pretty renegade.

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    glithertglithert Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    If I had designed that scenario, Paragon interrupt would be saying something as she pulls the gun, neutral would be shooting her, and renegade would be... Shooting her in the leg as soon as you walk in.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Daris wrote: »
    Wow, so much paragon hate. At least someone can make a recommendation to paragon shep without getting reminded who's in charge. Renegade Shepard is far more annoying to play. Sure you get to shoot more assholes, but you're the asshole. I'm amazed a pure renegade doesn't get dropped leaving the collector base.

    I can't stand playing pure renegade. I need to stop and hug Tali to keep myself sane. Renegade is such an insecure childish pecker.

    Oh, sure, some paragoning is fine.

    From experience, going either way majority is perfectly enjoyable.

    And pure either way, you're a prick.

    It's just I find Intimidate options generally more fun than charm for the big choices.

    My Shepard is going to be the scariest person in the universe through mixed methods.

    Everyone viewed as more of an asshole is getting shot dead, hostage taking ending in bullets, all that.

    Everyone who's less of an ass and seems to be going for a title?

    Talked down or blown off kneecaps to remind them that "Ultimate Badass" is taken, and if they would, they probably should stop trying in favor of... charity or something.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    glithert wrote: »
    What always pissed me off is when that Asari merc pulls a gun on you and it's the "renegade" option to shoot her

    Well that's the trigger to shoot your gun. I know the Renegade interrupt on Archangel's mission to shoot the mech doesn't actually give you Renegade points, and I'm pretty sure shooting the mech in Overlord doesn't either.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    there is really no interrupt not worth taking, except for giving the batarian medi-gel

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    Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    -Tal wrote: »
    there is really no interrupt not worth taking, except for giving the batarian medi-gel

    And the ones to make Mordin stop talking.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Basil wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    A thought about ME3:

    If I never see another set of enemies arrive on a floating platform with scattered cover, I'll be just fine thanks.

    Inexplicable chest height walls are the future!

    I'm still not certain whether they're better or worse than the Dragonforce warehouses we used to fight through.

    Nah, they streamlined the combat. Enemy waves will now teleport right behind your spellcasters, right when you're looking the other way, while your warriors are off fighting on the other side of the area.

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    mister tuxedomister tuxedo Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basil wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    A thought about ME3:

    If I never see another set of enemies arrive on a floating platform with scattered cover, I'll be just fine thanks.

    Inexplicable chest height walls are the future!

    I'm still not certain whether they're better or worse than the Dragonforce warehouses we used to fight through.
    Nah, they streamlined the combat. Enemy waves will now teleport right behind your spellcasters, right when you're looking the other way, while your warriors are off fighting on the other side of the area.

    Nah dude, it's all good. They're making the game more accessible by redoing the difficulty levels. Nightmare and Easy will be switched.

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