That alliance cruiser isn't at a minimum safe distance!
I've noticed that a lot in Mass Effect: ships like to stick their gun barrels right up against something, it's space guys your bullet isnt going to lose speed from a distance!
You have to know history in order to avoid repeating it. Homeschooling kind of prevents that. :twisted:
And the goosiest comment of the day goes to!
Not Rchanen, who is dead on accurate.
The homeschooling movement is HUGE in evangelical circles in order to prevent their children from learning real facts.
Yes, and that's horrible.
Many of the rest of us who were homeschooled for entirely legitimate reasons and turned out pretty fucking well thank you very much find it pretty offensive to be lumped in with the Santorums though.
olol homeschooling is a pretty prevalent attitude and it's also pretty fucking annoying.
"Dead on accurate" my ass.
As someone in the same camp as VH, I approve this post
You have to know history in order to avoid repeating it. Homeschooling kind of prevents that. :twisted:
And the goosiest comment of the day goes to!
Not Rchanen, who is dead on accurate.
The homeschooling movement is HUGE in evangelical circles in order to prevent their children from learning real facts.
Yes, and that's horrible.
Many of the rest of us who were homeschooled for entirely legitimate reasons and turned out pretty fucking well thank you very much find it pretty offensive to be lumped in with the Santorums though.
olol homeschooling is a pretty prevalent attitude and it's also pretty fucking annoying.
"Dead on accurate" my ass.
As someone in the same camp as VH, I approve this post
My kids will probably be in the same boat you guys are.
The local high school has no foreign language requirement, and only requires two semesters of math and science. Meanwhile, they require six semesters of vocational education including but not limited to interning at the local church, or membership in the 4H club.
It's amazing that I can live somewhere with such great internet but no educational standards to speak of. I will teach them Calculus myself damnit.
Romney wins PR. Undoes all the momentum Santorum earned last week, plus some. His lead has never been larger.
I doubt the media will acknowledge this.
It can't undo his momentum if the media doesn't acknowledge it.
That's what momentum IS.
This is the part where I start to actively despise the fourth estate and their neverending thirst for a narrative, facts and context be damned.
0
Options
lonelyahavaCall me Ahava ~~She/Her~~Move to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
there's nothing wrong with membership in 4H dammit.
I knew a bunch of home-schooled kids. yeah, their families were religious, but the kids got almost more rigorous education than us public school kids did. And their families only had them homeschooled until high school. Then the kids went to school with the rest of us.
They were farm families, and 4-H families. But those kids did just fine in public high school, they had normal lives and actually ended up not being very religious. At least not as religious as some home-schooled others I know.
Their parents just needed them on the farm most of the time, their lessons were scattered during the day, around when their chores had to be done.
I also know another little boy being home-schooled right now. But he's special needs and definitely needs it.
But what Rick Santorum is teaching his kids is most likely the furthest thing that I'd consider to be acceptable. So don't go jumping up and down that I'm defending it. I'm not. I'm just agreeing with VH and Arch. Not everybody that's home-schooled is a nutjob.
It should be pointed out that children who were homeschooled and got a good education out of it would have turned out great at public school (had it been an option) anyway, because they have involved parents.
Kids who were homeschooled and turned out as fundie nutjobs on the other hand
override367 on
0
Options
Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
or debate one of Santorum's kids on logic.
Either would be fine with me.
Debating the poor kid just makes Maher look like a bully. Besides, Santorum should defend his own beliefs not let his children do the heavy lifting.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
or debate one of Santorum's kids on logic.
Either would be fine with me.
Debating the poor kid just makes Maher look like a bully. Besides, Santorum should defend his own beliefs not let his children do the heavy lifting.
Sure.
Thinking about it, though, Santorum might be able to argue logically, if we just mean "articulate ideas that do not contradict one another." Cause he seems to be fairly consistent with his Levitican beliefs of "everything fun is bad."
The main problem is his starting point. But assessing the correct starting points does not fall within the purview of logic.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"wants to make children sick"?
Vaccines cause autism, y'all.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"wants to make children sick"?
He's an anti-vaxxer. So he wants to do things that would make kids sick. That's probably not his intent there though.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"Our children will out-reason him. My 12 year-old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding how logic works, 'cause (Maher) is completely illogical," Santorum said.
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
or debate one of Santorum's kids on logic.
Either would be fine with me.
Debating the poor kid just makes Maher look like a bully. Besides, Santorum should defend his own beliefs not let his children do the heavy lifting.
Sure.
Thinking about it, though, Santorum might be able to argue logically, if we just mean "articulate ideas that do not contradict one another." Cause he seems to be fairly consistent with his Levitican beliefs of "everything fun is bad."
The main problem is his starting point. But assessing the correct starting points does not fall within the purview of logic.
That doesn't bother me. Regarding the subject matter Maher can expose his arguments weak points with ease. He's not debating a rational Christian, just a fundamentalist which will make him easier to expose his irrational beliefs.
Harry Dresden on
0
Options
AbsalonLands of Always WinterRegistered Userregular
One million dollars to Obama's campaign buys a little forgiveness. In general we would not be better off without him - can you imagine anyone else giving airtime and serious attention to both of Pelosi's horrifying and eye-opening "man on the street" segments?
Anyway, what was Santorum thinking - was he trying to sacrifice Puerto Rico but gain more brownie points in the south or something?
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"wants to make children sick"?
Vaccines cause autism, y'all.
Ah. That's...special.
He also denies germ theory.
Dude advocates a hell of a lot of extremely dangerous and pseudo-scientific bullshit.
One million dollars to Obama's campaign buys a little forgiveness. In general we would not be better off without him - can you imagine anyone else giving airtime and serious attention to both of Pelosi's horrifying and eye-opening "man on the street" segments?
Anyway, what was Santorum thinking - was he trying to sacrifice Puerto Rico but gain more brownie points in the south or something?
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"wants to make children sick"?
Vaccines cause autism, y'all.
Ah. That's...special.
He also denies germ theory.
Dude advocates a hell of a lot of extremely dangerous and pseudo-scientific bullshit.
He what? That I didn't know. He's far from perfect. Even I'd criticize him when he acts like a sexist asshole, which is far too often.
Nor will I defend his outlandish autism beliefs or anything else that stupid.
We do need him to criticize both parties when they need it. He's good at that.
My kids will probably be in the same boat you guys are.
The local high school has no foreign language requirement, and only requires two semesters of math and science. Meanwhile, they require six semesters of vocational education including but not limited to interning at the local church, or membership in the 4H club.
It's amazing that I can live somewhere with such great internet but no educational standards to speak of. I will teach them Calculus myself damnit.
Only two semesters of math & science? Really? Those are two of the most important subjects they teach in school along with english/lit. We had to take a math, science, and english class every semester.
We had english/literature every year, but only needed 3 each of math and science, and two foreign languages (which counted as electives).
Of course, our high school had about the top 20% of students taking college classes senior year, because the district was set up to only require 28 credits to graduate, and our high school did 4 classes per semester each year (the other high schools did 7 all year), so your senior year you really only needed half your classes to graduate. Lots of us did "jump start" programs to either take classes at CC or take vocational training stuff.
PPP: Romney 15 points over Santorum in critical Illinois race tomorrow night
CNN: Gingrich voters split evenly between Romney and Santorum
Such a large percentage of Illinois's electorate lives in Chicago and its suburbs that there should hardly be any doubt.
This is, incidentally, another one of those states where Santorum failed file all his paperwork and consequently spotted Mitt Romney the first 10 of the state's 54 delegates.
Santorum's already broken. Without the prospect that Newt dropping out could change the dynamics, he's doomed unless Romney dies or has a major scandal.
Profile -> Signature Settings -> Hide signatures always. Then you don't have to read this worthless text anymore.
0
Options
AbsalonLands of Always WinterRegistered Userregular
edited March 2012
I guess the best not-Romney can hope for is to make the "superdelegates" or whatever push him over the finishing line, but that will not actually provide them with even a chance of getting the nom. It's not a "coup" or an "establishment win" if Romney gets a few uncommitted delegates - it's only mathematically fair. But needing said uncommitted delegates to reach 1144 is going to look horrible nevertheless.
So they face a dilemma - if they don't give up before that happens (if it is even a possibility) then they might make Romney look like a failure, helping Obama a lot. Whether they are holding out for themselves or the party's best, they have less of an incentive to stick around. I hope they do.
EDIT: I wonder what Romney is thinking admitting the economy is getting better*. Sure, it's "true" but it is also a concession. Seeing as he's already lost the individual mandate issue, I guess he is holding out for Netanyahu and gas prices.
I guess the best not-Romney can hope for is to make the "superdelegates" or whatever push him over the finishing line, but that will not actually provide them with even a chance of getting the nom. It's not a "coup" or an "establishment win" if Romney gets a few uncommitted delegates - it's only mathematically fair. But needing said uncommitted delegates to reach 1144 is going to look horrible nevertheless.
So they face a dilemma - if they don't give up before that happens (if it is even a possibility) then they might make Romney look like a failure, helping Obama a lot. Whether they are holding out for themselves or the party's best, they have less of an incentive to stick around. I hope they do.
EDIT: I wonder what Romney is thinking admitting the economy is getting better*. Sure, it's "true" but it is also a concession. Seeing as he's already lost the individual mandate issue, I guess he is holding out for Netanyahu and gas prices.
I think he assumes Santorum is basically done for at this point so he's trying to tack back to the center as quickly as possible since he's Romnevitable once again.
One million dollars to Obama's campaign buys a little forgiveness. In general we would not be better off without him - can you imagine anyone else giving airtime and serious attention to both of Pelosi's horrifying and eye-opening "man on the street" segments?
Anyway, what was Santorum thinking - was he trying to sacrifice Puerto Rico but gain more brownie points in the south or something?
Alexandra Pelosi can go fuck herself. God knows I hate the South, but those people were so badly cherry picked, and at least one of them (the toothless hoarder) was pretty obviously mentally ill. Once again, Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Yeah the Pelosi bits are not really actually good so much as a quick pick-me-up for people who spend every waking moment wanking over how clever they are.
Posts
garrusheadnot.gif
I've noticed that a lot in Mass Effect: ships like to stick their gun barrels right up against something, it's space guys your bullet isnt going to lose speed from a distance!
As someone in the same camp as VH, I approve this post
My kids will probably be in the same boat you guys are.
The local high school has no foreign language requirement, and only requires two semesters of math and science. Meanwhile, they require six semesters of vocational education including but not limited to interning at the local church, or membership in the 4H club.
It's amazing that I can live somewhere with such great internet but no educational standards to speak of. I will teach them Calculus myself damnit.
twitch.tv/Taramoor
@TaramoorPlays
Taramoor on Youtube
This is the part where I start to actively despise the fourth estate and their neverending thirst for a narrative, facts and context be damned.
I knew a bunch of home-schooled kids. yeah, their families were religious, but the kids got almost more rigorous education than us public school kids did. And their families only had them homeschooled until high school. Then the kids went to school with the rest of us.
They were farm families, and 4-H families. But those kids did just fine in public high school, they had normal lives and actually ended up not being very religious. At least not as religious as some home-schooled others I know.
Their parents just needed them on the farm most of the time, their lessons were scattered during the day, around when their chores had to be done.
I also know another little boy being home-schooled right now. But he's special needs and definitely needs it.
But what Rick Santorum is teaching his kids is most likely the furthest thing that I'd consider to be acceptable. So don't go jumping up and down that I'm defending it. I'm not. I'm just agreeing with VH and Arch. Not everybody that's home-schooled is a nutjob.
Democrats Abroad! || Vote From Abroad
Hell you're more likely to find a 4H run by radical leftist hippies in my branch of the woods.
As a matter of fact the same thing goes on an even more micro level for homeschooling.
Kids who were homeschooled and turned out as fundie nutjobs on the other hand
I know that the thread in general is not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but he's not wrong with his arguments against religion. He runs most of the right and respectable arguments in this regard.
Bill Maher needs to debate Santorum over religion on his show. It'd never happen, but it would be fascinating to watch.
I'd watch that debate.
or debate one of Santorum's kids on logic.
Either would be fine with me.
Debating the poor kid just makes Maher look like a bully. Besides, Santorum should defend his own beliefs not let his children do the heavy lifting.
Sure.
Thinking about it, though, Santorum might be able to argue logically, if we just mean "articulate ideas that do not contradict one another." Cause he seems to be fairly consistent with his Levitican beliefs of "everything fun is bad."
The main problem is his starting point. But assessing the correct starting points does not fall within the purview of logic.
Nah. He's kinda a dick.
And he called the movement to get Rush's advertisers to leave him extortion.
Oh and he's an anti-vaxer.
He's a sexist asshole who wants to make children sick because he's scientifically illiterate and thinks the First Amendment means that you can't face any commercial consequences from speech. He should go away.
"wants to make children sick"?
Vaccines cause autism, y'all.
He's an anti-vaxxer. So he wants to do things that would make kids sick. That's probably not his intent there though.
Ah. That's...special.
That doesn't bother me. Regarding the subject matter Maher can expose his arguments weak points with ease. He's not debating a rational Christian, just a fundamentalist which will make him easier to expose his irrational beliefs.
Anyway, what was Santorum thinking - was he trying to sacrifice Puerto Rico but gain more brownie points in the south or something?
He also denies germ theory.
Dude advocates a hell of a lot of extremely dangerous and pseudo-scientific bullshit.
He what? That I didn't know. He's far from perfect. Even I'd criticize him when he acts like a sexist asshole, which is far too often.
Nor will I defend his outlandish autism beliefs or anything else that stupid.
We do need him to criticize both parties when they need it. He's good at that.
Only two semesters of math & science? Really? Those are two of the most important subjects they teach in school along with english/lit. We had to take a math, science, and english class every semester.
Of course, our high school had about the top 20% of students taking college classes senior year, because the district was set up to only require 28 credits to graduate, and our high school did 4 classes per semester each year (the other high schools did 7 all year), so your senior year you really only needed half your classes to graduate. Lots of us did "jump start" programs to either take classes at CC or take vocational training stuff.
PPP: Romney 15 points over Santorum in critical Illinois race tomorrow night
CNN: Gingrich voters split evenly between Romney and Santorum
Some of them were probably looking at porn while they were cheering at him, go smartphones!
Such a large percentage of Illinois's electorate lives in Chicago and its suburbs that there should hardly be any doubt.
This is, incidentally, another one of those states where Santorum failed file all his paperwork and consequently spotted Mitt Romney the first 10 of the state's 54 delegates.
Not in his wildest dreams was Santorum still in the running by the time Illinois came up for the vote.
So they face a dilemma - if they don't give up before that happens (if it is even a possibility) then they might make Romney look like a failure, helping Obama a lot. Whether they are holding out for themselves or the party's best, they have less of an incentive to stick around. I hope they do.
EDIT: I wonder what Romney is thinking admitting the economy is getting better*. Sure, it's "true" but it is also a concession. Seeing as he's already lost the individual mandate issue, I guess he is holding out for Netanyahu and gas prices.
* http://www.gallup.com/poll/153314/Unemployment-Ticks-Down-Mid-March.aspx
I think he assumes Santorum is basically done for at this point so he's trying to tack back to the center as quickly as possible since he's Romnevitable once again.
twitch.tv/Taramoor
@TaramoorPlays
Taramoor on Youtube
Alexandra Pelosi can go fuck herself. God knows I hate the South, but those people were so badly cherry picked, and at least one of them (the toothless hoarder) was pretty obviously mentally ill. Once again, Ta-Nehisi Coates.