I mean, I get that they wanted to give the fans something. But that was an pointlessly cheap way to go about it.
They already had Quarian concept art. I've seen the video of Matt Rhodes talking for like forty fucking minutes about designing the aliens and how important it was that they were all unique yet relatable. Unless you're going to do it right, why bother doing it at all? It's not giving the fans anything if it's bad to begin with.
It would have been better to have not included it at all than half-ass something that would annoy the insane Tali fans that they cultivated with ME2.
It's so badly done, too. It must have been thrown in last minute.
Like, literally the last minute. Because you could have, as mentioned, hired any artist to spend an afternoon doing a proper digital portrait of the alien properly. Instead, it's a stock photo with two layer masks.
I'm just glad I never stuck with the Tali romance.
I tried it one time, on my first ME2 playthrough, but never again. I never actually romanced anyone new in ME2 because none of the available ladies really struck a chord. I thought they were all great characters, but I didn't really see a workable romance.
Every later playthrough I stuck by Liara.
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I'm just glad I never stuck with the Tali romance.
I tried it one time, on my first ME2 playthrough, but never again. I never actually romanced anyone new in ME2 because none of the available ladies really struck a chord. I thought they were all great characters, but I didn't really see a workable romance.
Every later playthrough I stuck by Liara.
just wanted to say, your current av/sig combo absolutely sells this post.
EDIT: of course, I didn't see the bit with liara, but hey
I mean, I get that they wanted to give the fans something. But that was an pointlessly cheap way to go about it.
They already had Quarian concept art. I've seen the video of Matt Rhodes talking for like forty fucking minutes about designing the aliens and how important it was that they were all unique yet relatable. Unless you're going to do it right, why bother doing it at all? It's not giving the fans anything if it's bad to begin with.
do you have a link to the concept art? or maybe the video?
I mean, I get that they wanted to give the fans something. But that was an pointlessly cheap way to go about it.
They already had Quarian concept art. I've seen the video of Matt Rhodes talking for like forty fucking minutes about designing the aliens and how important it was that they were all unique yet relatable. Unless you're going to do it right, why bother doing it at all? It's not giving the fans anything if it's bad to begin with.
do you have a link to the concept art? or maybe the video?
It's on the ME1 bonus disc.
It's actually a slideshow of concept art with an audio track of Matt just commenting on everything.
I'm just glad I never stuck with the Tali romance.
I tried it one time, on my first ME2 playthrough, but never again. I never actually romanced anyone new in ME2 because none of the available ladies really struck a chord. I thought they were all great characters, but I didn't really see a workable romance.
Every later playthrough I stuck by Liara.
just wanted to say, your current av/sig combo absolutely sells this post.
EDIT: of course, I didn't see the bit with liara, but hey
I stuck with the Tali romance in ME3. Yeah the picture thing is kind of lame but there are a number of hilarious quips you get from various party members.
When/if I take that Shep through ME2 again my current plan is to have him stick with Liara though.
On a related note: when you do a New Game+ with your Shep in ME2 does it rewrite that Shep or do you make a new one? If it's not the latter I guess I'll probably want to make a copy to avoid conflicts in ME3?
Yeah, considering how much time and thought went into the look of the quarian suits, which are really beautiful, compared to how much time went into the reveal of Tali herself?
Yeeeaaaaah. As someone who totally liked Tali even in ME1, I'd have preferred that if they couldn't put in the time to maintain the high standard of alien designs, they ought to just skip it.
Really the best solution probably would've been for us to see a non-half-assed quarian out of their suit back in ME2, then people who don't want their e-girlfriend to be a freaky looking alien can avoid the tali romance. By 3 it was probably too late to do it justice, since if she was alien looking it would come across as a joke on anyone with a different mental image of her, and if she was too human it would just come across as lazy and implausible.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Although except for the picture scene (dude, shep's already seen her out of her suit like 3 times now, great he's got a picture now?) the Tali romance in 3 was by far my favorite. They're the only pairing that actually seems to make each other happier. Liara and Shep are just super-solemn all the time.
Well, Garrus and femshep might be able to compete, but why do that when you can have nearly as good bromance with Garrus AND have all the nice scenes with Tali?
Plus Garrus and Tali's been my main squad ever since 1, so it's perfect
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Yeah, considering how much time and thought went into the look of the quarian suits, which are really beautiful, compared to how much time went into the reveal of Tali herself?
Yeeeaaaaah. As someone who totally liked Tali even in ME1, I'd have preferred that if they couldn't put in the time to maintain the high standard of alien designs, they ought to just skip it.
Really the best solution probably would've been for us to see a non-half-assed quarian out of their suit back in ME2, then people who don't want their e-girlfriend to be a freaky looking alien can avoid the tali romance. By 3 it was probably too late to do it justice, since if she was alien looking it would come across as a joke on anyone with a different mental image of her, and if she was too human it would just come across as lazy and implausible.
The way to do it would be to show another Quarian, then people still get to imagine their own perfect Tali but within the tighter boundaries of a defined alien appearance.
Yeah, considering how much time and thought went into the look of the quarian suits, which are really beautiful, compared to how much time went into the reveal of Tali herself?
Yeeeaaaaah. As someone who totally liked Tali even in ME1, I'd have preferred that if they couldn't put in the time to maintain the high standard of alien designs, they ought to just skip it.
Really the best solution probably would've been for us to see a non-half-assed quarian out of their suit back in ME2, then people who don't want their e-girlfriend to be a freaky looking alien can avoid the tali romance. By 3 it was probably too late to do it justice, since if she was alien looking it would come across as a joke on anyone with a different mental image of her, and if she was too human it would just come across as lazy and implausible.
Yeah, considering how much time and thought went into the look of the quarian suits, which are really beautiful, compared to how much time went into the reveal of Tali herself?
Yeeeaaaaah. As someone who totally liked Tali even in ME1, I'd have preferred that if they couldn't put in the time to maintain the high standard of alien designs, they ought to just skip it.
Really the best solution probably would've been for us to see a non-half-assed quarian out of their suit back in ME2, then people who don't want their e-girlfriend to be a freaky looking alien can avoid the tali romance. By 3 it was probably too late to do it justice, since if she was alien looking it would come across as a joke on anyone with a different mental image of her, and if she was too human it would just come across as lazy and implausible.
The way to do it would be to show another Quarian, then people still get to imagine their own perfect Tali but within the tighter boundaries of a defined alien appearance.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Like the crazy quarian you meet in the beginning could've had his helmet off, considering they were already saying that he was really sick and delirious and needed medical treatment.
Then you've got a rough guess of what Tali looks like and if you're willing to Hit Dat, and then her appearance when we eventually see it would still be a nice reveal
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A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Wanted to give an update about the fix for the exploit. We have a fix for the issue but it needs lots of testing. We will grant the Commendation Pack for Operation Raptor next week after the fix goes live.
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I'm late to the party. What exploit are they talking about here?
Apparently there was a way to get multiple victory packs, so they stopped releasing them
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
The Tali romance is really good in both games. The picture is dumb and shouldn't have been included, but it doesn't actually have any impact on how good or bad the romance is. Liara's seems more fleshed out than Tali's in ME3, but I imagine part of that at least speaks to how much earlier to get Liara.
Fire Explosions are probably increased in power when an appropriately specc'd Throw or Warp is used as the detonator, but even with the increased power it just got, it's still exactly as powerful as Warp/Throw detonations while being a lot harder to pull off.
I guess that particular usage of it is out the window except for happy accidents.
Oh my god
just did a public match, Cerberus on Firebase Ghost
Wave 10, a fucking hacking objective, and all of a sudden we're bumrushed by turrets and phantoms, and all but one guy fucking bites it
We all spend 5 minutes in spectator mode watching this drell adept hold the line like a fucking champ, and when he finishes the wave and we all rez, one guy comes over the mic with this great holy fucking shit reaction
The Tali romance is really good in both games. The picture is dumb and shouldn't have been included, but it doesn't actually have any impact on how good or bad the romance is. Liara's seems more fleshed out than Tali's in ME3, but I imagine part of that at least speaks to how much earlier to get Liara.
sort've wished you could've gotten Tali earlier
or hell, make it so that you can decide whether to do Rannoch or Tuchanka first
And it's quite possible it was a last-minute addition, like the sidequests.
The picture, to me, was "the fans have been clamoring for it, let's just go and throw them a bone". Somewhat akin to Conrad Verner's hilariously convoluted quest for...5 war assets.
I have nothing invested in the Tali relationship. I like her as a character, but I don't particularly care about quarian faces in general or hers in particular. It's always just been a running joke to me that they'd never show a quarian face. I still feel they missed an opportunity to show spiders there though.
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They already had Quarian concept art. I've seen the video of Matt Rhodes talking for like forty fucking minutes about designing the aliens and how important it was that they were all unique yet relatable. Unless you're going to do it right, why bother doing it at all? It's not giving the fans anything if it's bad to begin with.
It would have been better to have not included it at all than half-ass something that would annoy the insane Tali fans that they cultivated with ME2.
It's so badly done, too. It must have been thrown in last minute.
Like, literally the last minute. Because you could have, as mentioned, hired any artist to spend an afternoon doing a proper digital portrait of the alien properly. Instead, it's a stock photo with two layer masks.
I'm betting it was outsourced.
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I tried it one time, on my first ME2 playthrough, but never again. I never actually romanced anyone new in ME2 because none of the available ladies really struck a chord. I thought they were all great characters, but I didn't really see a workable romance.
Every later playthrough I stuck by Liara.
just wanted to say, your current av/sig combo absolutely sells this post.
EDIT: of course, I didn't see the bit with liara, but hey
what class/race? cause that's pretty incredible for gold. at least, it is for me. I barely break 70k even on my vanguard.
do you have a link to the concept art? or maybe the video?
It's on the ME1 bonus disc.
It's actually a slideshow of concept art with an audio track of Matt just commenting on everything.
hahah
When/if I take that Shep through ME2 again my current plan is to have him stick with Liara though.
On a related note: when you do a New Game+ with your Shep in ME2 does it rewrite that Shep or do you make a new one? If it's not the latter I guess I'll probably want to make a copy to avoid conflicts in ME3?
Yeeeaaaaah. As someone who totally liked Tali even in ME1, I'd have preferred that if they couldn't put in the time to maintain the high standard of alien designs, they ought to just skip it.
Really the best solution probably would've been for us to see a non-half-assed quarian out of their suit back in ME2, then people who don't want their e-girlfriend to be a freaky looking alien can avoid the tali romance. By 3 it was probably too late to do it justice, since if she was alien looking it would come across as a joke on anyone with a different mental image of her, and if she was too human it would just come across as lazy and implausible.
Well, Garrus and femshep might be able to compete, but why do that when you can have nearly as good bromance with Garrus AND have all the nice scenes with Tali?
Plus Garrus and Tali's been my main squad ever since 1, so it's perfect
Hrm. I guess the easiest way to find out is to try but I don't want to accidentally overwrite the existing Shep.
It will not overwrite your existing Shepard, don't worry. It's a whole new career. You Import the file, not Overwrite or Delete it.
The way to do it would be to show another Quarian, then people still get to imagine their own perfect Tali but within the tighter boundaries of a defined alien appearance.
Yeah, this and what Langly said pretty much.
Cool, thanks.
Yeah, that's what I meant. Like the crazy quarian you meet in the beginning could've had his helmet off, considering they were already saying that he was really sick and delirious and needed medical treatment.
Then you've got a rough guess of what Tali looks like and if you're willing to Hit Dat, and then her appearance when we eventually see it would still be a nice reveal
Vega's never seen a quarian, EDI constantly makes little suggestions that they resemble the Vorcha or squids or something
oh and then you finally see it, but only through the cracked visor of Tali's burnt corpse
I'm late to the party. What exploit are they talking about here?
firebase white geth, camping that lower room, is really easy*
*comparatively
except for that one thing
whatever makes you think that
Yeah, dichot could never beat gold
or anything really
I guess that particular usage of it is out the window except for happy accidents.
just did a public match, Cerberus on Firebase Ghost
Wave 10, a fucking hacking objective, and all of a sudden we're bumrushed by turrets and phantoms, and all but one guy fucking bites it
We all spend 5 minutes in spectator mode watching this drell adept hold the line like a fucking champ, and when he finishes the wave and we all rez, one guy comes over the mic with this great holy fucking shit reaction
sort've wished you could've gotten Tali earlier
or hell, make it so that you can decide whether to do Rannoch or Tuchanka first
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they really need to fix the thing with decoy not actually ever taking damage
well
they don't really need to
but if they're going to I prefer they do it now, before I get too comfortable with decoy being as absurd as it is
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You'd want something more than just a simple drawn picture; you'd want something like what the concept art looks like, akin to this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DdJW7-7PLRE/T2Kvcq4edyI/AAAAAAAAAGw/Ksx5eX6Y8M0/s1600/femshep.png
And it's quite possible it was a last-minute addition, like the sidequests.
The picture, to me, was "the fans have been clamoring for it, let's just go and throw them a bone". Somewhat akin to Conrad Verner's hilariously convoluted quest for...5 war assets.
I have nothing invested in the Tali relationship. I like her as a character, but I don't particularly care about quarian faces in general or hers in particular. It's always just been a running joke to me that they'd never show a quarian face. I still feel they missed an opportunity to show spiders there though.
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