when most people arguments about the evils of healthcare are based on nonsense that talking heads made up I think that's pretty easy to classify as dumb
when most people arguments about the evils of healthcare are based on nonsense that talking heads made up I think that's pretty easy to classify as dumb
obama will literally murder your mee-maw and pop-pop personally
when most people arguments about the evils of healthcare are based on nonsense that talking heads made up I think that's pretty easy to classify as dumb
It's not even made up by talking heads. It's made up by companies and organizations with an interest in misleading the public. Then they feed it to talking heads. People in the MSM (especially cable news) are hired for their ability to unquestioningly recite talking points.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
Once someone is emotionally invested into an idea, you cannot rationally argue with them. The only thing you can do at that point is walk away.
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Magus`The fun has been DOUBLED!Registered Userregular
Most bad opinions in politics are based on purposeful ignorance of the facts. These people have chosen to know nothing about the subject yet still espouse on it.
I wish people could have opinions without being insufferable douchebags about it
Like, okay, some people can think healthcare is a right while others consider it a privilege
Fine, whatever, don't call each other names
The problem here is that just because everyone has an opinion that does not mean that every opinion is valid.
edit: turns out you said exactly this, probably should have read this page first
Yeah I'm not saying we take civility down the slippery slope of relativism or give up on tackling bad ideas with logic
But we don't need to name call and sometimes you do need to accept that people won't agree on things
what do you do when people refuse to listen to logic though
go "well you're entitled to your asinine opinion that's founded in ignorance"
fuck that, you shame the fuck out of them
No you uh
you do exactly that
if you lay out your point of view and back it up with all the logic you've got and somebody does the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "lalalalalala" then you disengage as best you can
shaming somebody will 1) never persuade anybody to do anything but maybe hide their opinions around you and 2) actually undermine your point of view by making it look like everybody who agrees with you is an asshole
That's not to say you shouldn't call somebody out (even the same person) whenever they bring up something that is wrong in hopes that you'll be able to persuade them but being a shitlord does nothing for anyone
I wish people could have opinions without being insufferable douchebags about it
Like, okay, some people can think healthcare is a right while others consider it a privilege
Fine, whatever, don't call each other names
The problem here is that just because everyone has an opinion that does not mean that every opinion is valid.
edit: turns out you said exactly this, probably should have read this page first
Yeah I'm not saying we take civility down the slippery slope of relativism or give up on tackling bad ideas with logic
But we don't need to name call and sometimes you do need to accept that people won't agree on things
what do you do when people refuse to listen to logic though
go "well you're entitled to your asinine opinion that's founded in ignorance"
fuck that, you shame the fuck out of them
No you uh
you do exactly that
if you lay out your point of view and back it up with all the logic you've got and somebody does the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "lalalalalala" then you disengage as best you can
shaming somebody will 1) never persuade anybody to do anything but maybe hide their opinions around you and 2) actually undermine your point of view by making it look like everybody who agrees with you is an asshole
That's not to say you shouldn't call somebody out (even the same person) whenever they bring up something that is wrong in hopes that you'll be able to persuade them but being a shitlord does nothing for anyone
but this approach doesn't allow him to yell at people on the internet
dont you GET IT?
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
I wish people could have opinions without being insufferable douchebags about it
Like, okay, some people can think healthcare is a right while others consider it a privilege
Fine, whatever, don't call each other names
The problem here is that just because everyone has an opinion that does not mean that every opinion is valid.
edit: turns out you said exactly this, probably should have read this page first
Yeah I'm not saying we take civility down the slippery slope of relativism or give up on tackling bad ideas with logic
But we don't need to name call and sometimes you do need to accept that people won't agree on things
what do you do when people refuse to listen to logic though
go "well you're entitled to your asinine opinion that's founded in ignorance"
fuck that, you shame the fuck out of them
No you uh
you do exactly that
if you lay out your point of view and back it up with all the logic you've got and somebody does the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "lalalalalala" then you disengage as best you can
shaming somebody will 1) never persuade anybody to do anything but maybe hide their opinions around you and 2) actually undermine your point of view by making it look like everybody who agrees with you is an asshole
That's not to say you shouldn't call somebody out (even the same person) whenever they bring up something that is wrong in hopes that you'll be able to persuade them but being a shitlord does nothing for anyone
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exactly
just which side is which is up for argument
(no it's not my side is right forever and always)
I think the health care debate has some flexibility
You can demonstrate moral inconsistency maybe but not necessarily wrongness
what part of this aren't you getting
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obama will literally murder your mee-maw and pop-pop personally
It's not even made up by talking heads. It's made up by companies and organizations with an interest in misleading the public. Then they feed it to talking heads. People in the MSM (especially cable news) are hired for their ability to unquestioningly recite talking points.
liberty cries
america dies
kill
mee-maw
and pop-pop
whatever you want it to be
the names of buttlords cats
fuck cats
dag supremacy
i'm dag-sitting my cousin's dag this week, and he's pretty awesome
i'm thinking of stealing him
one of the few breeds of dogs I love
I like dogs that are small enough for me to grip them like a football
gotta get a good spiral on them if you want to get them across the room
just one spot
right on his ass
my god I wish rick barber was the gop nominee
he does have nightly conversations with abraham lincon
He's not "using" them; he's demonstrating their capabilities to potential Iranian clients.
The problem here is that just because everyone has an opinion that does not mean that every opinion is valid.
edit: turns out you said exactly this, probably should have read this page first
In the spirit of compromise I am willing to meet you halfway on this.
http://gawker.com/5923608/texas-town-converts-abandoned-walmart-into-award+winning-public-library
BOOM
what's the middle ground on this oen
only some poors are subhuman?
Yeah I'm not saying we take civility down the slippery slope of relativism or give up on tackling bad ideas with logic
But we don't need to name call and sometimes you do need to accept that people won't agree on things
Some poors are subhuman, the other subhumans are poor.
what do you do when people refuse to listen to logic though
go "well you're entitled to your asinine opinion that's founded in ignorance"
fuck that, you shame the fuck out of them
No, if anything it will make them defensive and entrench the bad idea further
So no, I don't think that is necessarily a good plan
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No you uh
you do exactly that
if you lay out your point of view and back it up with all the logic you've got and somebody does the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "lalalalalala" then you disengage as best you can
shaming somebody will 1) never persuade anybody to do anything but maybe hide their opinions around you and 2) actually undermine your point of view by making it look like everybody who agrees with you is an asshole
That's not to say you shouldn't call somebody out (even the same person) whenever they bring up something that is wrong in hopes that you'll be able to persuade them but being a shitlord does nothing for anyone
Wait.
Wait.
WAIT.
Is he seriously making the same points I was making in my joke posts?
but this approach doesn't allow him to yell at people on the internet
dont you GET IT?
nah