Donkey KongPutting Nintendo out of business with AI nipsRegistered Userregular
The lyrics in Tom's Diner are at least spare and evocative of something that's supposed to be mundane. It has a thing to do and it does it. Breakfast at Tiffany's is just searching in the dark. Full of random words until it hits the meter of the song.
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
ehh... doing a google image search for anything associated with my little pony drives any possible trace of cool from bronyism.
redx on
They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
And I said what about
Breakfast at Tiffany's
She says
I think I
Remember the film and
As I recall I think
We both kinda liked it
And I said
well that's
one thing we got.
See
I don't understand why other people don't realize
That this right here
Is the pinnacle of lyricism
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
But then again I have a pretty strong identity anyway in a way a lot of people who are mostly sociological majorities don't so I don't know what that's like.
I used to but I've kind of forgotten.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
who even pays attention to lyrics?
The most important thing about lyrics is consonance and meter
vague "literal meaning" and silliness like "message" are dumb dumb dumb
fuck gendered marketing
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
anybody who goes "aha, I have the loyalty of a significant majority of the peasantry and intellectuals: you'll never, ever murder us into oblivion, and everyone one of us you strike down will only make us stronger!" has never reflected upon the european wars of religion
the "they shot one of us - let us unite and rise up!" response has sharply diminishing returns
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
But whatever makes people happy!
Yeah, this is mainly my opinion as well.
I just don't really GET it for a lot of people.
Now I should also point out that I don't really get "Trekkies" either. Star Trek is awesome. But attaching your identity to a single show? Now I get confused.
And probably also offensive. Sorry, Trekkies! I still like you!
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
It's really very simple:
"You're a grown ass man."
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
And "home".
I dislike flying.
Also nothing has tried to kill me yet, however there's a bird outside acting suspicious.
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
But whatever makes people happy!
Yeah, this is mainly my opinion as well.
I just don't really GET it for a lot of people.
Now I should also point out that I don't really get "Trekkies" either. Star Trek is awesome. But attaching your identity to a single show? Now I get confused.
And probably also offensive. Sorry, Trekkies! I still like you!
To be fair to trekkies, they at least don't appropriate the language of social exclusion and use it to accuse those mocking them of discrimination on a par with gender or race based exclusion.
I don't know what's up with bronies being so sensitive about people finding it silly.
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
If a painting had words in it, I would take the meanings of those words to be part of the piece.
Sometimes they aren't!
It's not high art, but I present Engrish T-Shirts as an example where actual words and literal meaning take a back seat to shape and form and other design elements
fuck gendered marketing
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
But whatever makes people happy!
Yeah, this is mainly my opinion as well.
I just don't really GET it for a lot of people.
Now I should also point out that I don't really get "Trekkies" either. Star Trek is awesome. But attaching your identity to a single show? Now I get confused.
And probably also offensive. Sorry, Trekkies! I still like you!
To be fair to trekkies, they at least don't appropriate the language of social exclusion and use it to accuse those mocking them of discrimination on a par with gender or race based exclusion.
I don't know what's up with bronies being so sensitive about people finding it silly.
The way people find it silly is really annoying and sexist, though.
lyrics are just a component of the rhythm and timbre of the vocal instrument
nothing more
While I agree with you mostly, the meaning of a word can still significantly color the emotional content you get out of it in a song.
I think the idea of the words forming a narrative or something is usually dumb, but there are reasons outside of just sound to pick particular words and/or particular languages for your lyrics.
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MrMisterJesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered Userregular
If a painting had words in it, I would take the meanings of those words to be part of the piece.
Sometimes they aren't!
It's not high art, but I present Engrish T-Shirts as an example where actual words and literal meaning take a back seat to shape and form and other design elements
Sometimes they aren't, but then again sometimes they are.
I'm not saying lyrics are always important in a piece. But you started saying they were never important. And that's just silly!
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
edited July 2013
There are a fair number of musicians whom I consider to be poets who incidentally write musical accompaniment to their poems
In those cases the lyrics are the piece and the music is almost secondary
There are a fair number of musicians whom I consider to be poets who incidentally write musical accompaniment to their poems
In those cases the lyrics are the piece and the music is almost secondary
But most musicians are not them
This distinction seems really ad hoc. If you wanted, you could also divide painters into color-ists and spatial-ists depending on which aspect they were more skilled in. But this distinction would be artificial: color and space are both elements that co-occur in paintings, and which can both contribute to the overall meaning and aesthetic of the piece. So too with lyrics and melody.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
I honestly saw that there was a brony convention recently and locally.
It made me judgmental enough that I never bothered watching the show.
I don't even know why! It looks pretty cool, to be totally honest.
It depends entirely what you're watching for.
But it's well written and well animated, and was definitely designed by someone who wanted girls' entertainment to be engaging and interesting and not something parents would hate, so it is kind of neat if you're sort of a feminist-interested person who looks at stuff sociologically sometimes.
I should really give it a fair chance.
I like what I have seen of it, it seems like a fun show.
But then...BRONY CONVENTIONS...
It's a fun show with a pretty ok fanbase overall, but with a really really big fucking obnoxious portion who make watching the show, like, their thing.
Though I also have really strong feeling about bronyism as a phenomenon that non-bronies care about and largely think they're used as a scapegoat and convenient socially acceptable funnel for a desire to gender police, so I mean, I kind of hate everyone here.
I can't really argue with this.
I think "brony" stuff is weird, but also kinda cool, if maybe a bit hard to discuss with.
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
But whatever makes people happy!
Yeah, this is mainly my opinion as well.
I just don't really GET it for a lot of people.
Now I should also point out that I don't really get "Trekkies" either. Star Trek is awesome. But attaching your identity to a single show? Now I get confused.
And probably also offensive. Sorry, Trekkies! I still like you!
To be fair to trekkies, they at least don't appropriate the language of social exclusion and use it to accuse those mocking them of discrimination on a par with gender or race based exclusion.
I don't know what's up with bronies being so sensitive about people finding it silly.
The way people find it silly is really annoying and sexist, though.
Sometimes, yes.
However when you get to the stage of conventions, fanart, and cosplay with anything you're at a place most people will find silly.
Particularly if you insist on shoehorning your fandom into every aspect of your social life, which isn't really a thing i've seen happen with anything else.
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MrMisterJesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered Userregular
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Do we get to involve the Vengaboys and/or Aqua?
Edit: Ooh. OOH.
Edit x2: See also "everything 4 Non Blondes ever did".
ehh... doing a google image search for anything associated with my little pony drives any possible trace of cool from bronyism.
goddamn hawaiians taking OUR instrument and totally ruining it for everyone
See
I don't understand why other people don't realize
That this right here
Is the pinnacle of lyricism
I honestly don't get brony-ness.
Like there is fanart that's awesome and the toys can be cute and the show is pretty neat and honestly I can see someone being a fan of it the same way people become obsessive fans of anything, I just... like, find it weird that someone would identify so strongly with the show that it became an identity with its own name.
But whatever makes people happy!
Racism.
I used to but I've kind of forgotten.
The most important thing about lyrics is consonance and meter
vague "literal meaning" and silliness like "message" are dumb dumb dumb
I have heard the same song about a million times in electrolysis and had to have the lyrics in front of me before I realized what the words were.
And they are pretty calmly spoken without much over them.
Though to be fair I was a little distracted >.>
This song actually:
Well, stood.
Yeah, this is mainly my opinion as well.
I just don't really GET it for a lot of people.
Now I should also point out that I don't really get "Trekkies" either. Star Trek is awesome. But attaching your identity to a single show? Now I get confused.
And probably also offensive. Sorry, Trekkies! I still like you!
It's really very simple:
"You're a grown ass man."
I dislike flying.
Also nothing has tried to kill me yet, however there's a bird outside acting suspicious.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
The Thing (falsetto): "It's clobberin' time!"
Therapist: "Lower! Lower register!"
I wish there was a 'strongly disagree' button.
Hi Mortious!
Be nice to that bird he is a friend of mine.
But he has an evil twin so make sure to confirm his identity before being too nice.
nothing more
It's true, I do.
BUT ALSO BESIDE THE POINT!
If a painting had words in it, I would take the meanings of those words to be part of the piece.
To be fair to trekkies, they at least don't appropriate the language of social exclusion and use it to accuse those mocking them of discrimination on a par with gender or race based exclusion.
I don't know what's up with bronies being so sensitive about people finding it silly.
Sometimes they aren't!
It's not high art, but I present Engrish T-Shirts as an example where actual words and literal meaning take a back seat to shape and form and other design elements
The way people find it silly is really annoying and sexist, though.
While I agree with you mostly, the meaning of a word can still significantly color the emotional content you get out of it in a song.
I think the idea of the words forming a narrative or something is usually dumb, but there are reasons outside of just sound to pick particular words and/or particular languages for your lyrics.
Sometimes they aren't, but then again sometimes they are.
I'm not saying lyrics are always important in a piece. But you started saying they were never important. And that's just silly!
In those cases the lyrics are the piece and the music is almost secondary
But most musicians are not them
Does this one look familier?
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w380/avzweblizard/photo_zpsd236ad5e.jpg
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
hugs
at least you weren't an orch dork in school
This distinction seems really ad hoc. If you wanted, you could also divide painters into color-ists and spatial-ists depending on which aspect they were more skilled in. But this distinction would be artificial: color and space are both elements that co-occur in paintings, and which can both contribute to the overall meaning and aesthetic of the piece. So too with lyrics and melody.
Oh yeah no stay away from him.
He's a dick.
Sometimes, yes.
However when you get to the stage of conventions, fanart, and cosplay with anything you're at a place most people will find silly.
Particularly if you insist on shoehorning your fandom into every aspect of your social life, which isn't really a thing i've seen happen with anything else.
That bird is ready to take on the day!
Philosopheeeeeeeee.... is the talk on a cereal box!
/commits seppuku
I didn't know orchestra people suffered that particular appellation in school.
I just heard band geek.
Better version:
In retrospect that's such a weird, almost nonsensical statement from a sitting President.