Man, if this game turns out to actually be good I'm going to have to eat so much crow.
I'm putting my money on formulaically average :P
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For me it basically boils down to:
Is the story compelling and fun enough to go through once?
Can I roam around and hack and shoot and cause random mayhem to my heart's content?
If the answer to both of those is 'yes', then this will be a solid purchase. Also I'm hoping the cops in this game aren't omniscient as they are in GTA IV and V (thereby nullifying any chance for fun mayhem).
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Is the story compelling and fun enough to go through once?
Can I roam around and hack and shoot and cause random mayhem to my heart's content?
If the answer to both of those is 'yes', then this will be a solid purchase. Also I'm hoping the cops in this game aren't omniscient as they are in GTA IV and V (thereby nullifying any chance for fun mayhem).
*Pull into alleyway, shut off car lights, duck down.*
Look I'm sure the game is awesome and all that, I'm just not pre-ordering. There's nothing wrong with waiting a bit to see how others react to the game. I didn't pre-order Sleeping Dogs, picked up in a sale about a year after release and LOVED IT. Played it to death and enjoyed every second. It's the same with Watch Dogs, I'll just sit on the fence for a bit.
All the videos post-E3 make it look more and more like GTA with some minor environment manipulation gimmicks.
The video that showed Mr. Generic Gravelly Voice didn't actually create the Uber Phone and is working with a bunch of other people. Kills the singular pissed off and smart vigilante I was hoping to play.
That doesn't mean it won't be fun. It's just not going to match the game I really wanted to play. I was really hoping for a new kind of experience, where having unfettered access to everyone's information actually meant something. This may deliver that, but all indications point to no, which is disappointing.
So I'm thinking that this is going to be like Assassin's Creed 1.
Plenty of hype, tons of inference that things that we don't see evidence of are there, and people resenting that they're not.
And if that means that the series will turn out like Assassin's Creed as well, I'll live with it.
So I'm thinking that this is going to be like Assassin's Creed 1.
Plenty of hype, tons of inference that things that we don't see evidence of are there, and people resenting that they're not.
And if that means that the series will turn out like Assassin's Creed as well, I'll live with it.
If that means we get the Watch Dogs versions of AssCreed II and AssCreed Brotherhood, I'll be all for it.
Basically they have to have tremendous faith to lift it pre-release day
I remember it happening for Halo 4 and Tomb Raider but yeah
It usually isn't the case
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The bright eyed child within me would like the reason for embargoes to be something along the lines of them wanting people to play the game before listening to a possibly biased reviewer rag on the game for whatever reason.
The cynic in me says it's all about the money even if they're rock solid sure with their game (I am)
The realist says it's probably split right down the middle. The executives want the money while the people who made the game want their fans to experience the game without some asshole with an axe to grind spewing his hate juice all over a perfectly fine game.
At least in the movie industry, it's so they can sell as many tickets as possible without people getting a warning out that it's a big turd.
There's also some crazy PR message control in there when it comes to games that may or may not have any effect on sales. Depends on the company and who's running things at the time. But yeah, still taking it as a potential red flag, considering how many big-name games get advanced reviews.
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At least in the movie industry, it's so they can sell as many tickets as possible without people getting a warning out that it's a big turd.
There's also some crazy PR message control in there when it comes to games that may or may not have any effect on sales. Depends on the company and who's running things at the time. But yeah, still taking it as a potential red flag, considering how many big-name games get advanced reviews.
but at least it kinda makes sense in the movie industry since films have such short theatre runs and studios need to make as much as possible during that time. there's really no real or genuine reason why games sales remain so front loaded other than, perhaps, our own insatiable desire to have what ever is shiny and new. such to the point that we can't even wait even just a moment past launch day for reviews or opinions in most cases.
Sure says a lot about this generation of consoles that a few year old high tier but not crazy GPU will run a game at Ultra (at what i assume is 1080p).
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Sure says a lot about this generation of consoles that a few year old high tier but not crazy GPU will run a game at Ultra (at what i assume is 1080p).
Watch Dogs is still a cross-gen game. I'd wait until we have exclusive current gen and PC titles before writing off this new generation. While I'm sure the 670s will last a good long while, I'm not sure it'll really crush things like The Witcher 3 when that comes out next year.
What people don't seem to get about DLC that's made before the game releases is that the content only exists because people are willing to pay extra for it. Ie, if there was no such thing as preorder bonuses and DLC, resources for the creation of that extra content would not have been allocated. They don't make the game then slice it into DLC, the DLC is made because they can make extra from it. It's this bizarre resentment people have developed, like they are somehow being shortchanged or ripped off. I've got news for you, without the incentive of DLC sales, that content would not exist.
While this is usually true, sometimes devs do slice off content to make an extra buck. Not as common as some think, but it sadly does happen. You just have to address day one dlc on a case by case basis, like everything else in life.
Sure says a lot about this generation of consoles that a few year old high tier but not crazy GPU will run a game at Ultra (at what i assume is 1080p).
Watch Dogs is still a cross-gen game. I'd wait until we have exclusive current gen and PC titles before writing off this new generation. While I'm sure the 670s will last a good long while, I'm not sure it'll really crush things like The Witcher 3 when that comes out next year.
There's no reason to write off the current gen, but they're still only as powerful as a mid-range PC. That's OK. The big reason to pick up the heftier video cards are to support resolutions beyond 1080p, and 4K TVs are still in the "pretty goddamn expensive" ballpark. In three to five years, we might be looking at a different situation, which won't be kind to consoles that struggle with resolutions greater than 720p.
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From what I hear it's going to be the first PS4 game available for pre-loading?
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/464098/watch-dogs-review-embargo-lifts-on-release-day/
"OMG UBISOFT IS HIDING SOMETHING RELEASE DAY EMBARGO RSDOLFIJKSDFLOIEHF"
-every- triple A game has a release day embargo for reviews.
They want those preorder dollars...
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I'm putting my money on formulaically average :P
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Is the story compelling and fun enough to go through once?
Can I roam around and hack and shoot and cause random mayhem to my heart's content?
If the answer to both of those is 'yes', then this will be a solid purchase. Also I'm hoping the cops in this game aren't omniscient as they are in GTA IV and V (thereby nullifying any chance for fun mayhem).
*Pull into alleyway, shut off car lights, duck down.*
Thing you can actually do in the game.
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I think he is messing with you :P and you fell for it.
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All the videos post-E3 make it look more and more like GTA with some minor environment manipulation gimmicks.
The video that showed Mr. Generic Gravelly Voice didn't actually create the Uber Phone and is working with a bunch of other people. Kills the singular pissed off and smart vigilante I was hoping to play.
That doesn't mean it won't be fun. It's just not going to match the game I really wanted to play. I was really hoping for a new kind of experience, where having unfettered access to everyone's information actually meant something. This may deliver that, but all indications point to no, which is disappointing.
Plenty of hype, tons of inference that things that we don't see evidence of are there, and people resenting that they're not.
And if that means that the series will turn out like Assassin's Creed as well, I'll live with it.
If that means we get the Watch Dogs versions of AssCreed II and AssCreed Brotherhood, I'll be all for it.
Though typically that embargo lifts some time before release date, unless they're hiding something bad.
Granted this isn't a smoking gun of poo or anything, but it sure ain't a good sign.
Nah
It's actually rare for a game to lift the embargo pre-release day
This is always a thing with Ubisoft, Black Flag and the last Splinter Cell had a release-day embargo and both did quite well critically
Batman Arkham Asylum or City can't remember which actually had an embargo that lasted past the release day.
I remember it happening for Halo 4 and Tomb Raider but yeah
It usually isn't the case
The cynic in me says it's all about the money even if they're rock solid sure with their game (I am)
The realist says it's probably split right down the middle. The executives want the money while the people who made the game want their fans to experience the game without some asshole with an axe to grind spewing his hate juice all over a perfectly fine game.
There's also some crazy PR message control in there when it comes to games that may or may not have any effect on sales. Depends on the company and who's running things at the time. But yeah, still taking it as a potential red flag, considering how many big-name games get advanced reviews.
but at least it kinda makes sense in the movie industry since films have such short theatre runs and studios need to make as much as possible during that time. there's really no real or genuine reason why games sales remain so front loaded other than, perhaps, our own insatiable desire to have what ever is shiny and new. such to the point that we can't even wait even just a moment past launch day for reviews or opinions in most cases.
That doesn't make for great testing. Hopefully they have a whole slew of testing machines, too.
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Watch Dogs is still a cross-gen game. I'd wait until we have exclusive current gen and PC titles before writing off this new generation. While I'm sure the 670s will last a good long while, I'm not sure it'll really crush things like The Witcher 3 when that comes out next year.
While this is usually true, sometimes devs do slice off content to make an extra buck. Not as common as some think, but it sadly does happen. You just have to address day one dlc on a case by case basis, like everything else in life.
Can I put ducks in cars? If no, preorder canceled.
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