When people are sincere about it, it's them identifying with a cultural stereotype and not realizing that race is almost entirely external, how people perceive you.
So people are like "Hey, I really like rap music and I'm more comfortable with black people than white people, I guess I'm basically black."
Never mind that they would never have to walk the streets afraid some random racist WASP is going to feel threatened and pull a gun for no reason, they (probably) don't have to worry cops are going to find bullshit excuses to frisk them or search their cars, etc.
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This doesn't sound right. Trans-anything takes discipline and commitment to get things right, not a dipping of the toe to test the waters.
Forum handles are like nicknames. I don't find it too weird to call folks by that if that's what you're used to. I still have a buddy from highschool who to this day calls me "Pencil" (My nickname in highschool was Pencilman) and I call him "Sakana" (His nickname).
I'll still try to call folks by their real names when I can. But otherwise I don't think its a big deal if you're rocking a nickname or handle.
Names are just references anyway. If the reference works and is not objectionable, then whatever. Their origin does not give some special status, really.
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
As far a social discourse is concerned, the "War on Women" is becoming more of a myth while the War on Men is reality. Why is it that since women characters can't compete with their male counterparts, women have to leech on to the male characters in order to be successful? There's already been "Thor Girl" and that didn’t do very well. Lady Sif had her run and those sales were dismal. Does making Thor a woman really lend credibility to gender neutrality? No. This is caving in to political correctness that treats the male gender with contempt. There is no valid reason to make Thor a woman other than all women characters modeled after Thor have failed. So making Thor a woman will compensate for those previous failures. Why not make Wonder Woman a man? Oh wait, that would be sexist.
Like, right now, I more than likely have some false beliefs. It's a side effect of not being omniscient.
So if someone really earnestly believes that they are a Dragon, then that's fine. As long as that belief doesn't hurt anyone, I don't care...
But them believing that they are a Dragon doesn't mean that they are a Dragon. Just means that they believe something false. No biggy.
but that's exactly the point i was trying to make i think.
we good liberal-minded people accept transgenderism and have trans friends and use the right pronouns and support legal rights etc.
and we ask those who don't accept that transgenderism is an actual thing to just be tolerant and indulgent even if they don't believe or accept that a translady is a real actuallady.
i.e., we demand a legal and social framework in which people have the basic right of identity self-determination.
and i have no idea whether furries are a product of disney movies or otherkin are an internet fad for sad kids or transracial people will be only as long-lived as tumblr or whatever, but the trend has been that people are increasingly demanding broader respect and acceptance of their identity or lifestyle assertions. i don't think they'll just go away after transgender is normalized
And even if transgendered being normalized is absolutely what should happen (and it is), at what point on the march towards "freedom to be" do we collectively say "nope that is a mental illness or a cry for attention and not a real thing?" Your answer to that question you will find is answered more by feelings than facts most of the time, and that kind of sucks.
I feel like a pretty solid line can be drawn at "real things that a sentient".
A human being can be born male, but be female. I'm okay with that.
A human being can be born human, but believe they are a dragon. That, I'm less okay with.
Would you say that opinion is based on feeling more than fact?
Body integrity identity disorder (BIID, also referred to as amputee identity disorder[1]) is a psychological disorder wherein sufferers feel they would be happier living as an amputee. It is related to xenomelia, "the oppressive feeling that one or more limbs of one's body do not belong to one's self".[2]
BIID is typically accompanied by the desire to amputate one or more healthy limbs to achieve that end. BIID can be associated with apotemnophilia, sexual arousal based on the image of one's self as an amputee. The cause of BIID is unknown. One theory states that the cause of BIID is a neurological failing of the brain's inner body mapping function (located in the right parietal lobe). According to this theory, the brain mapping does not incorporate the affected limb in its understanding of the body's physical form.
Symptoms of BIID sufferers are often keenly felt. Sufferers of BIID are uncomfortable with a part of their body, such as a limb, and feel confident that removing or disabling this part of their body will relieve their discomfort. Sufferers may have intense feelings of envy toward amputees. They may pretend that they are an amputee, both in public and in private. Sufferers experience the above symptoms as being strange and unnatural. They may try to injure themselves to require the amputation of that limb. They are generally ashamed of their thoughts and may try to hide them from others, including therapists and health care professionals
People without legs are real. We don't pretend people with BIID are legless (or whaever) or amputate because that's how they think it should be.
When Mitt Romney pretended he was Mexican (tbf he didn't actually but it approached that) we didn't nod politely. Mexicans are real.
Transgender is treated differently, largely as a byproduct of the gay rights movement.
AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
For instance, at one point you were not white if you weren't a WASP. Within our lifetimes, Hispanics will be considered white so that certain segments of the population can avoid uncomfortable changes in rhetoric.
I think that I care less and less about the weird, harmless things people on the internet want to believe.
AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
We're establishing a new version of feudalism with our erotic obsession with corporate citizenship, let's worry about that more and worry less about pre op transcentaurs or whatever some kid on twimbler is posting about.
We're establishing a new version of feudalism with our erotic obsession with corporate citizenship, let's worry about that more and worry less about pre op transcentaurs or whatever some kid on twimbler is posting about.
eat the rich, got it
*grabs pitchfork*
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
Like, right now, I more than likely have some false beliefs. It's a side effect of not being omniscient.
So if someone really earnestly believes that they are a Dragon, then that's fine. As long as that belief doesn't hurt anyone, I don't care...
But them believing that they are a Dragon doesn't mean that they are a Dragon. Just means that they believe something false. No biggy.
but that's exactly the point i was trying to make i think.
we good liberal-minded people accept transgenderism and have trans friends and use the right pronouns and support legal rights etc.
and we ask those who don't accept that transgenderism is an actual thing to just be tolerant and indulgent even if they don't believe or accept that a translady is a real actuallady.
i.e., we demand a legal and social framework in which people have the basic right of identity self-determination.
and i have no idea whether furries are a product of disney movies or otherkin are an internet fad for sad kids or transracial people will be only as long-lived as tumblr or whatever, but the trend has been that people are increasingly demanding broader respect and acceptance of their identity or lifestyle assertions. i don't think they'll just go away after transgender is normalized
And even if transgendered being normalized is absolutely what should happen (and it is), at what point on the march towards "freedom to be" do we collectively say "nope that is a mental illness or a cry for attention and not a real thing?" Your answer to that question you will find is answered more by feelings than facts most of the time, and that kind of sucks.
I feel like a pretty solid line can be drawn at "real things that a sentient".
A human being can be born male, but be female. I'm okay with that.
A human being can be born human, but believe they are a dragon. That, I'm less okay with.
Would you say that opinion is based on feeling more than fact?
Body integrity identity disorder (BIID, also referred to as amputee identity disorder[1]) is a psychological disorder wherein sufferers feel they would be happier living as an amputee. It is related to xenomelia, "the oppressive feeling that one or more limbs of one's body do not belong to one's self".[2]
BIID is typically accompanied by the desire to amputate one or more healthy limbs to achieve that end. BIID can be associated with apotemnophilia, sexual arousal based on the image of one's self as an amputee. The cause of BIID is unknown. One theory states that the cause of BIID is a neurological failing of the brain's inner body mapping function (located in the right parietal lobe). According to this theory, the brain mapping does not incorporate the affected limb in its understanding of the body's physical form.
Symptoms of BIID sufferers are often keenly felt. Sufferers of BIID are uncomfortable with a part of their body, such as a limb, and feel confident that removing or disabling this part of their body will relieve their discomfort. Sufferers may have intense feelings of envy toward amputees. They may pretend that they are an amputee, both in public and in private. Sufferers experience the above symptoms as being strange and unnatural. They may try to injure themselves to require the amputation of that limb. They are generally ashamed of their thoughts and may try to hide them from others, including therapists and health care professionals
People without legs are real. We don't pretend people with BIID are legless (or whaever) or amputate because that's how they think it should be.
When Mitt Romney pretended he was Mexican (tbf he didn't actually but it approached that) we didn't nod politely. Mexicans are real.
Transgender is treated differently, largely as a byproduct of the gay rights movement.
Do you have a problem with those people cutting off their right leg or whatever if that's what they want to do?
Does it hurt you somehow?
Or do you just think that society should be protecting them from this self-destructive urge they have. Because I'm fairly certain it isn't outside the realms of possibility to require someone to have medical and psychological exams before starting. If doctors and psychologists can't figure it out and the guy really wants someone to cut his arm off, why stop him?
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
Then I realize I won't be a child ever again. Then I hyperventilate. Then I run outside and ride a bike around crying about the finity of our lives and the futility of trying to preserve what we have with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding a bottle of bacardi 151 by the neck as I take intermittent swigs.
Then I realize I won't be a child ever again. Then I hyperventilate. Then I run outside and ride a bike around crying about the finity of our lives and the futility of trying to preserve what we have with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding a bottle of bacardi 151 by the neck as I take intermittent swigs.
I admit I listened to shitty eurodance/europop crap a lot in the early-mid 90s. I knew that I liked electronic music, but I had yet to find the seedy underbelly of the electronic subgenres where my black, shriveled soul belonged.
When people are sincere about it, it's them identifying with a cultural stereotype and not realizing that race is almost entirely external, how people perceive you.
So people are like "Hey, I really like rap music and I'm more comfortable with black people than white people, I guess I'm basically black."
Never mind that they would never have to walk the streets afraid some random racist WASP is going to feel threatened and pull a gun for no reason, they (probably) don't have to worry cops are going to find bullshit excuses to frisk them or search their cars, etc.
??
This doesn't sound right. Trans-anything takes discipline and commitment to get things right, not a dipping of the toe to test the waters.
I don't think it's possible to "get things right" for transrace. Unlike gender, it's a cultural distinction (as others have said on this page). Obviously there are some differences in appearance, but those are a lot more superficial and cosmetic than the differences in gender.
That doesn't mean I'm going to be an asshole if a white guy comes up to me and says that his name is Jing Xiao and he's really Chinese, mind you. I'll go ahead and call him by his chosen name.
Then I realize I won't be a child ever again. Then I hyperventilate. Then I run outside and ride a bike around crying about the finity of our lives and the futility of trying to preserve what we have with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding a bottle of bacardi 151 by the neck as I take intermittent swigs.
you realize that's drunk driving right
If Saints Row and GTA have taught me anything, it's that it's easier to escape the police on offroad vehicles because you can go places where their pathing is fucked up.
I swear that yesterday I saw a poster for an upcoming festival that had Moby as the headliner and, in tiny print, Dishwalla as the very last act on the bill.
But I can't find the poster now.
My Google-fu has failed me. I just wanted to make fun of Dishwalla and smoke salvia like all the cool kids.
Posts
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This doesn't sound right. Trans-anything takes discipline and commitment to get things right, not a dipping of the toe to test the waters.
"It's a comic book, everything is temporary, except Uncle Ben stays dead."
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
y it gotta b white
twitch.tv/tehsloth
Body integrity identity disorder
People without legs are real. We don't pretend people with BIID are legless (or whaever) or amputate because that's how they think it should be.
When Mitt Romney pretended he was Mexican (tbf he didn't actually but it approached that) we didn't nod politely. Mexicans are real.
Transgender is treated differently, largely as a byproduct of the gay rights movement.
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-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
just dye your hair black and bathe in olive oil every morning
In a thousand years hopefully nobody gives a crap how much melanins you've got floating around inside you.
not according to my erotic fan fiction
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
at least they didn't finish up with a killing blow of "what's up" followed by "two princes"
i smell sex and candy here
whos that lounging in my chair
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I think that I care less and less about the weird, harmless things people on the internet want to believe.
ACCEPTABLE.
eat the rich, got it
*grabs pitchfork*
sweden's popular music industry is an elaborate troll on the rest of the world
evidence:
abba
rednex
roxette
ace of base
aqua
i don't know what you guys listen to in your own country but i know it's not this shit
Do you have a problem with those people cutting off their right leg or whatever if that's what they want to do?
Does it hurt you somehow?
Or do you just think that society should be protecting them from this self-destructive urge they have. Because I'm fairly certain it isn't outside the realms of possibility to require someone to have medical and psychological exams before starting. If doctors and psychologists can't figure it out and the guy really wants someone to cut his arm off, why stop him?
i won't ask
People are still falling for the lutfisk hoax!
pro tip race and culture are different things fyi hth
Then I realize I won't be a child ever again. Then I hyperventilate. Then I run outside and ride a bike around crying about the finity of our lives and the futility of trying to preserve what we have with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding a bottle of bacardi 151 by the neck as I take intermittent swigs.
Close enough.
tove lo, little dragon, MO, icona pop, lykke li, royksopp, etc etc
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
you realize that's drunk driving right
I don't think it's possible to "get things right" for transrace. Unlike gender, it's a cultural distinction (as others have said on this page). Obviously there are some differences in appearance, but those are a lot more superficial and cosmetic than the differences in gender.
That doesn't mean I'm going to be an asshole if a white guy comes up to me and says that his name is Jing Xiao and he's really Chinese, mind you. I'll go ahead and call him by his chosen name.
o god they were so awful
when denmark is rated the most livable country in the world i know they're not adjusting for aqua
If Saints Row and GTA have taught me anything, it's that it's easier to escape the police on offroad vehicles because you can go places where their pathing is fucked up.
What if someone mispronounced it as "BEEEAAAST!!!"?
It's in the constitution.
But I can't find the poster now.
My Google-fu has failed me. I just wanted to make fun of Dishwalla and smoke salvia like all the cool kids.
These complaints remind me of the little shitfit the internet had over Black Heimdal in the Thor movie.