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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    We have no problem with kicking people out for various shades of "within the lines" toxicity, but we have to be aware that it's happening. If something goes for six pages, either a moderator wasn't online or no one reported it. Typically, it's the latter.

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    At this point I'm bowing out of the thread so that it can get back to talking about other things, but anyone can get in touch with me if they have questions or comments. I read every message, even if I don't reply directly.

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    Randy ButternubbsRandy Butternubbs Registered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    The point is that the track record really isn't all that great.

    ha ha ha ha

    you're funny

    Some things are funny because they're true.

    I mean I'm super late on this, but that's kinda because people in general have a bad track record. People are kinda just bastards. I think us cishet white dudes will somehow survive the impending crisis that is some people on tumblr using a word for us that seems odd or off for vaguely nebulous reasons. Somehow we'll find a way to pull through on this one.

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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    The Cocking Dead

    Necrophilia is illegal, Bobkins

    It's not just illegal, it's dead wrong.

    There's a punk song for that:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXQcCC6zBIc

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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    bahaha

    "How do you have sex?"

    "Fabulously"

    We spin around in a circle three times, chant the ancient incantations, hang upside down, snap our fingers, and then glitter rains down on us from the demonic gender gods, assuring that a giant storm or earthquake is about to happen. then we fly off into the darkness, dropping communist pamphlets down to the children below.

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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    I'm happy I avoid most chasers

    it's because I don't date men

    Men aren't the only ones who are chasers.

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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    edited May 2015
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    little_punk_pup on
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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    Dude you really gotta consolidate these posts. You know you can hit the quote button and respond to a post and then do it again without hurting submit as many times as you need, right?

    I mean, we'll totally give you a pass if that's not possible but I just letting you know that's an option.

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    P.s. the boy is less than 100 miles away from my lady parts right now.

    Pps yes I'm aware of the irony of the situation.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    I've had sex with well over three people by those definitions and I don't feel slutty. Hell, I have three partners right now and I still don't feel slutty. There's no reason to feel 'slutty' unless it makes you feel good, which I guess is some people's thing.

    When people try to tell you that you are it really says a lot more about them than it does about you.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    Dude you really gotta consolidate these posts. You know you can hit the quote button and respond to a post and then do it again without hurting submit as many times as you need, right?

    I mean, we'll totally give you a pass if that's not possible but I just letting you know that's an option.

    I'm sorry, I'll remember to do that from now on.

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    I've had sex with well over three people by those definitions and I don't feel slutty. Hell, I have three partners right now and I still don't feel slutty. There's no reason to feel 'slutty' unless it makes you feel good, which I guess is some people's thing.

    When people try to tell you that you are it really says a lot more about them than it does about you.

    Pfft. I'm having way less sex than either of you and I feel like a huge slut!
    Stretch my asshole!
    Replace my blood with your cum!

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    little_punk_puplittle_punk_pup Sex Sprite Cat BusRegistered User regular
    ceres wrote: »
    New proposal: pity fucks don't count toward your virginity. Nor do pressure fucks, rapes, grudge fucks, makeup fucks or any kind of sex with cis men.

    This bill has already passed in the house and is awaiting approval by the Senate subcommittee for hahaha fuck you and your patriarchal social constructs. shit's not up for a vote, you cracker ass losers.

    YES.
    Also... Now I feel so much less sluttier... That means I've only had sex with like three people. As opposed to well... a lot more. That's actually pretty sad when I think about it...
    *hums the tune to "like a virgin" by Madonna*

    I've had sex with well over three people by those definitions and I don't feel slutty. Hell, I have three partners right now and I still don't feel slutty. There's no reason to feel 'slutty' unless it makes you feel good, which I guess is some people's thing.

    When people try to tell you that you are it really says a lot more about them than it does about you.

    Pfft. I'm having way less sex than either of you and I feel like a huge slut!
    Stretch my asshole!
    Replace my blood with your cum!

    Yes ma'am!

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    I'm happy I avoid most chasers

    it's because I don't date men

    Men aren't the only ones who are chasers.

    Lady chasers are rare, but they're wonderful. I fucking love lady chasers because their eyes light up when they see you and they get giddy like a schoolgirl. It's a huge fucking ego boost and guy chasers could learn a thing or two

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Help me out, what is a chaser?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2015
    Someone that pursues trans people, but wholly as a fetish. Like, the whole "chicks with dicks" thing, which wouldn't be all that bad on its own, except they purely see you as a sex object and not a person.

    Think of it as PUAs, but specifically for trans women.

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    SkwigelfSkwigelf Passed out in a cloud of farts and cigarette smoke.Registered User regular
    Limited Knowledge Speaking(mainly gained from reading between the lines in conversations here):

    Someone who is more interested in having sex with a trans person than they are actually forming a relationship with them. Basically, they see them as a goal to attain or a notch on their belt or whatever rather than someone to actually have a meaningful relationship with as a person.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    There are all kinds of chasers to watch out for, trans or not. And they are all pretty damaging.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    I've heard of chaser as generally meaning someone who pursues people out of a specific sexual interest instead of an actual interest of the other party as a person.

    This is not a good thing to do

    ...but I would say that

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    Some chasers don't necessarily care about the traits of the person they're pursuing, except that they're emotionally vulnerable, due to being romantically or sexually marginalized. I have a nonbinary friend and a severely disabled friend who discovered that they shared a shitty abusive ex, who it appears has a propensity for finding people who are so lonely that they'll put up with some pretty dire financial exploitation. The worst thing about that kind of situation is that friends and family who become aware of it will often tell the exploited party that they should be glad that they're at least getting something out of the deal, thus affirming the original misconception that they're not worthy of unconditional love in the first place.

    Realizing lately that I don't really trust or respect basically any of the moderators here. So, good luck with life, friends! Hit me up on Twitter @DesertLeviathan
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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Some chasers don't necessarily care about the traits of the person they're pursuing, except that they're emotionally vulnerable, due to being romantically or sexually marginalized. I have a nonbinary friend and a severely disabled friend who discovered that they shared a shitty abusive ex, who it appears has a propensity for finding people who are so lonely that they'll put up with some pretty dire financial exploitation. The worst thing about that kind of situation is that friends and family who become aware of it will often tell the exploited party that they should be glad that they're at least getting something out of the deal, thus affirming the original misconception that they're not worthy of unconditional love in the first place.

    Yeah, this is the bad part. It'd be one thing if chasers were just people looking for hookups, and honest about that. But a lot of them are so very much worse.

    I'm about a week overdue on my E shot now..going to fix that soon. Got into a stupid loop of feeling too shitty to do it -> not having E makes me feel worse -> goto 1.

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Some chasers don't necessarily care about the traits of the person they're pursuing, except that they're emotionally vulnerable, due to being romantically or sexually marginalized. I have a nonbinary friend and a severely disabled friend who discovered that they shared a shitty abusive ex, who it appears has a propensity for finding people who are so lonely that they'll put up with some pretty dire financial exploitation. The worst thing about that kind of situation is that friends and family who become aware of it will often tell the exploited party that they should be glad that they're at least getting something out of the deal, thus affirming the original misconception that they're not worthy of unconditional love in the first place.

    Yeah, this is the bad part. It'd be one thing if chasers were just people looking for hookups, and honest about that. But a lot of them are so very much worse.

    I'm about a week overdue on my E shot now..going to fix that soon. Got into a stupid loop of feeling too shitty to do it -> not having E makes me feel worse -> goto 1.

    This happened to me with spiro recently. I have since then ALSO been given a diagnosis of hypertension, so suddenly being off of it was "fun". I was getting double attacked by dysphoria AND high blood pressure!

    Im glad you are getting it taken care of soon though!

    Neco on
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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    That sucks. Hypertension is normally asymptomatic.

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    That sucks. Hypertension is normally asymptomatic.

    Ive left SOME of the details out, but there were medical issues other than that going on with me as well. I eventually wound up in the ERand as soon as the nurse saw my blood pressure levels, I got to skip the rather crowded waiting room entirely and go straight back to a room. And the did say that part of the problem was definitely going off a fairly high dose of spiro for as long as i did, so i just went with what I was told. The physical symptoms could have been caused by something else I suppose.

    Everything is fine now though, so its all good. :D

    Neco on
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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    OFFICIALLY BACK ON HORMONES

    Special thanks go out to @Ruby Rhod @Fire Truck and her girlfriend

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Well

    My mom looked up the girl I'm seeing on Facebook and found out she's trans

    I'm just gonna curl up and go to sleep now wake me up in 50 years

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Is that bad, does your mom suck

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    Is that bad, does your mom suck

    Speed's family is

    Uh

    Pretty conservative

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Also I'm financially dependent on them and will be for the next year+

    Also I just recently did something incredibly shitty that very strongly betrayed their trust and I'm not out of the doghouse for it yet

    My options at this point as laid out by her are to either

    -stop seeing her, romantically if not at all

    -Admit that I'm gay even though I'm not attracted to men and continue seeing her romantically and pursue a gay relationship with this girl (???) and receive my mother's """support""" which basically just means she'll passive aggressively jab at me until the pain of that outweighs the pleasure of being with this girl

    -Go to a Christian counselor of my mom's choosing and against all odds get them to endorse the relationship as good and moral in which case she will shut up

    She kept dodging the question but my impression was also that if she had srs my mom wouldn't mind at all which is just so infuriatingly arbitrary

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i doubt the passive aggression is exclusive to option 2

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    -Admit that I'm gay even though I'm not attracted to men and continue seeing her romantically and pursue a gay relationship with this girl (???) and receive my mother's """support""" which basically just means she'll passive aggressively jab at me until the pain of that outweighs the pleasure of being with this girl

    Don't fucking do this

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    If you told your mother to go fuck herself would she actually cut off support or is that an idle threat?

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Mothers who use their power over their children's welfare to leverage what is abuse disguised as moral action are pretty near the top of the list of worst things

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    The financial dependence isn't an issue in that she would throw me out or anything, more that I have no real means of distancing myself from her for the foreseeable future

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    You have to defend your sexual autonomy against your parents

    If she doesn't respect your sexual autonomy this is a serious issue and not much different from parents or relatives who deny women sexual autonomy

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Plus she did bring up what is a completely valid point, which is that if my dad were to ever find out it might literally kill him, between his strong hatred of anything even vaguely adjacent to homosexuality and the fact that strong emotions give him seizures because of his brain damage

    Finding out that I'm romantically involved with a person with a penis could honestly turn him into a vegetable

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Nevermind, this isn't helpful

    Speed if you want to talk about this exact thing then PM me or contact me on Steam or something, I got similar experiences to commiserate over

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