The line about Obama apologizing to the world doesn't really work when Trump has said we can't criticize Turkey because of how things are in the USA right now and criticized the term "American exceptionalism" as being rude to other countries.
It feels like delegitimizing the elections happens earlier and by higher up people every presidential election cycle.
Already trying to pretend it wasn't really a mistake despite Trump's point being that there was a video that Iran made in Iran showing the transfer of money and intentionally leaked to embarrass the USA. I am guessing that is much more likely to be the talking point they use than "oops, he made himself look like a moron."
So Trump admits he lied about seeing that Iran cash video now.
His defense appears to be that he saw a different video and was mistaken about what was happening in it. So instead of being a liar, he is now claiming that he is incompetent and unable to have even a basic understanding of what is going on.
So Trump admits he lied about seeing that Iran cash video now.
His defense appears to be that he saw a different video and was mistaken about what was happening in it. So instead of being a liar, he is now claiming that he is incompetent and unable to have even a basic understanding of what is going on.
I'm not sure that's better.
That's the thing about white collar ethics: It's better to admit you totally screwed up and are really incompetent at your job than to admit malfeasance.
Ideally both should get you canned, but we are far from the ideal.
The line about Obama apologizing to the world doesn't really work when Trump has said we can't criticize Turkey because of how things are in the USA right now and criticized the term "American exceptionalism" as being rude to other countries.
It feels like delegitimizing the elections happens earlier and by higher up people every presidential election cycle.
Already trying to pretend it wasn't really a mistake despite Trump's point being that there was a video that Iran made in Iran showing the transfer of money and intentionally leaked to embarrass the USA. I am guessing that is much more likely to be the talking point they use than "oops, he made himself look like a moron."
I want to design a microchip that can be implanted in Republicans' brains. The purpose of this chip is to electrocute them anytime they try to make the (thoroughly debunked) claim that Obama went on a worldwide apology tour. Nothing lethal, just a little painful zap that discourages them from repeating it.
It feels like delegitimizing the elections happens earlier and by higher up people every presidential election cycle.
I think he's still just trying to do the "echo Bernie" thing. I don't think anyone on the GOP side was really claiming rigging before now and even the birther delegitimization efforts were considered fringe.
So Trump admits he lied about seeing that Iran cash video now.
His defense appears to be that he saw a different video and was mistaken about what was happening in it. So instead of being a liar, he is now claiming that he is incompetent and unable to have even a basic understanding of what is going on.
I'm not sure that's better.
That's the thing about white collar ethics: It's better to admit you totally screwed up and are really incompetent at your job than to admit malfeasance.
Ideally both should get you canned, but we are far from the ideal.
This is true. If you take a 800 dollar kickback from a vendor that costs the company an extra 2k it is considered way worst than making a bad call and having it cost the company 15k. In fact coming clean sometimes works in your favor as the company views you as more trustworthy for admitting the fuck up. Sr Management. We get rewarded even if we do a shitty job.
So Trump admits he lied about seeing that Iran cash video now.
His defense appears to be that he saw a different video and was mistaken about what was happening in it. So instead of being a liar, he is now claiming that he is incompetent and unable to have even a basic understanding of what is going on.
I'm not sure that's better.
That's the thing about white collar ethics: It's better to admit you totally screwed up and are really incompetent at your job than to admit malfeasance.
Ideally both should get you canned, but we are far from the ideal.
It's just amusing to me how so many politicians, when given the option of Team Evil or Team Stupid, opt for the latter pretty much every time.
You know what a lying evil liar person with no qualms about lying would do? That exact thing.
It feels like delegitimizing the elections happens earlier and by higher up people every presidential election cycle.
I think he's still just trying to do the "echo Bernie" thing. I don't think anyone on the GOP side was really claiming rigging before now and even the birther delegitimization efforts were considered fringe.
The complaints were always about voter fraud. In service of limiting access, of course. But nobody in any real position of authority ever serious attempted to push a 'rigged' narrative.
I think the closest was voting machines made by companies with open associations with republicans giving squirrelly results.
But a concerted, organised effort at fixing an election? On a national scale? Nobody's ever tried that before.
Yeah I'm not super happy about that ad. I believe Trump is a useful idiot for Putin, that he is lying about no Russian investment in his projects and a dangerous moron about Ukraine and NATO, but I don't believe there is a grand strategy there.
“I’d rather take our chances with nearly anyone else than continue with this certain loser who will likely cost the Senate and much more,” said a New Hampshire Republican — who, like all respondents, completed the survey anonymously.
Between Politico, CNN, WashPo, NYT, and MSNBC and a few other major outlets the coverage of Trump has been delicious this week.
“I also wish I could lose 20 pounds, cut 5 shots off my handicap and play the piano,” a New Hampshire Republican added. “None of those things will happen, and neither will Trump drop out.”
This is uncomfortably reminiscent of Trump's "something's going on with that" nonsense. "Insinuation" is not a good word.
I agree. Not a fan of piecing together a bunch of circumstantial evidence and then inviting people to create their own truth. Most of the things in that video are terrible enough on their own merit, we don't need to stoop to conspiracy theory.
If there IS something between Trump and Putin, let the journalists/security agencies find the smoking gun. Until then, in this country, we still believe in "Innocent until Proven Guilty".
Remember the talk when Trump first entered the race, how it was just a marketing thing to build up his brand? Well, about that...
Turns out running as a crazy Republican when a lot of your businesses are in blue states was maybe not the smartest decision.
So it's par for the course for Trump business decisions then?
It worked for him 4 years ago. Think of Trump like a mangy possum. He sneaks in through an open screen door/threatens to run for president. He makes off with some moldy bread/says some stupid shit that people on that side love. He scurries off into the night with no one the wiser/he scurries off into the night with no one the wiser.
Emboldened by his previous success, the possum returns to the scene of the crime/Trump threatens to run for president again. Only this time, the homeowners walk in on him shoveling rotten garbage in his mouth/he called Mexicans rapists on TV. The homeowner freaked the fuck out and chased him into a corner with a broom/liberals got a ton of his partners, like NBC, to stop doing business with him. With nowhere left to run, the hoary old possum leaps at the homeowners face, scaring the ever loving shit out of them/Trump stops threatening to run and commits to run.
Hopefully this story will end the same way my last run in with a possum ended. The home owners shit their pants a little, but the possum sees an opening and scurries out the door, leaving the home owner feeling unsafe/Trump hisses and snarls a bunch, we all shit our pants a little, then he runs away leaving us all feeling unsafe.
Yeah I'm not super happy about that ad. I believe Trump is a useful idiot for Putin, that he is lying about no Russian investment in his projects and a dangerous moron about Ukraine and NATO, but I don't believe there is a grand strategy there.
The thing is, his staff modified the GOP Ukraine plank, which was the major push they made on the party platform.
Remember the talk when Trump first entered the race, how it was just a marketing thing to build up his brand? Well, about that...
Turns out running as a crazy Republican when a lot of your businesses are in blue states was maybe not the smartest decision.
Keep in mind how many businesses Trump had deals with who ran the fuck away within weeks of his campaign started...
This really isn't a surprise. And if Trump keeps kicking reporters off his plane income at his properties campaign stops is just going to continue to go down...
Yeah I'm not super happy about that ad. I believe Trump is a useful idiot for Putin, that he is lying about no Russian investment in his projects and a dangerous moron about Ukraine and NATO, but I don't believe there is a grand strategy there.
The thing is, his staff modified the GOP Ukraine plank, which was the major push they made on the party platform.
And then Manafort lied about it and Trump said his people did it but he himself had nothing to do with what his people did.
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Welcome to the rocky campaign filled with horror show, erotibot!
I sort of caught up last night but I kinda skimmed through a chunk of pages at 3am so I really need to go back and read this thread again and sort out which bits were real and which were a fever dream.
Yeah I'm not super happy about that ad. I believe Trump is a useful idiot for Putin, that he is lying about no Russian investment in his projects and a dangerous moron about Ukraine and NATO, but I don't believe there is a grand strategy there.
The thing is, his staff modified the GOP Ukraine plank, which was the major push they made on the party platform.
And then Manafort lied about it and Trump said his people did it but he himself had nothing to do with what his people did.
Which is why I wouldn't put that ad in the same league as Trump's "I'm just saying" bullshit. Trump's bull is usually made up whole cloth and easily disproven. The Trump-Russia connection is stuff Trump and company have either lied about or dodged completely.
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Hey @SeñorAmor remember when your boss was so concerned about Obama saying I and Me so much in his convention speech
Try this one on for size:
When, in the summer of 1999, he stood up to offer remarks at his father’s funeral, Trump spoke mainly about himself. It was the toughest day of his own life, Trump began. He went on to talk about Fred Trump’s greatest achievement: raising a brilliant and renowned son. As Gwenda Blair writes in her three-generation biography of the Trump family, The Trumps, “the first-person singular pronouns, the I and me and my, eclipsed the he and his. Where others spoke of their memories of Fred Trump, [Donald] spoke of Fred Trump’s endorsement.”
Yeah I'm not super happy about that ad. I believe Trump is a useful idiot for Putin, that he is lying about no Russian investment in his projects and a dangerous moron about Ukraine and NATO, but I don't believe there is a grand strategy there.
The thing is, his staff modified the GOP Ukraine plank, which was the major push they made on the party platform.
And then later denied they had done it although nobody else but them had any desire to touch the GOP ukraine Plank.
Seriously I can't get over Trump's alleged defense of his "I totes saw that video" comments.
When I tell my kids to clean their bedroom and I go check to see if they've done it, occasionally they will claim that it is still messy because they "don't know how" to clean it. I know that's a lie, but it's galling that they would try to get out of trouble by pretending to be so inept that something which should be fundamentally and painfully elementary escapes them.
There are still consequences for this sort of behavior! They do not get off scot-free because they are pretending to be incapable. And they are children. Trump wants to have the most important job in the world. Being substandard to this degree should completely disqualify him in the public eye, because even if he's telling the truth (he is not), it betrays his extreme lack of even minimal adequacy.
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Apparently Trump Jr is in Yellowknife today on a hunting trip with his son.
I mean, not that it's really relevant to the election, but this is my home.
Your election isn't supposed to be anyone near my home.
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So it's par for the course for Trump business decisions then?
The line about Obama apologizing to the world doesn't really work when Trump has said we can't criticize Turkey because of how things are in the USA right now and criticized the term "American exceptionalism" as being rude to other countries.
It feels like delegitimizing the elections happens earlier and by higher up people every presidential election cycle.
Already trying to pretend it wasn't really a mistake despite Trump's point being that there was a video that Iran made in Iran showing the transfer of money and intentionally leaked to embarrass the USA. I am guessing that is much more likely to be the talking point they use than "oops, he made himself look like a moron."
His defense appears to be that he saw a different video and was mistaken about what was happening in it. So instead of being a liar, he is now claiming that he is incompetent and unable to have even a basic understanding of what is going on.
I'm not sure that's better.
That's the thing about white collar ethics: It's better to admit you totally screwed up and are really incompetent at your job than to admit malfeasance.
Ideally both should get you canned, but we are far from the ideal.
I believe we thought that before 'Mexican Rapists'.
After that, NBC told him to get stuffed.
I want to design a microchip that can be implanted in Republicans' brains. The purpose of this chip is to electrocute them anytime they try to make the (thoroughly debunked) claim that Obama went on a worldwide apology tour. Nothing lethal, just a little painful zap that discourages them from repeating it.
Hillary: "I don't judge, I report, you decide."
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It's just amusing to me how so many politicians, when given the option of Team Evil or Team Stupid, opt for the latter pretty much every time.
You know what a lying evil liar person with no qualms about lying would do? That exact thing.
This is uncomfortably reminiscent of Trump's "something's going on with that" nonsense. "Insinuation" is not a good word.
The complaints were always about voter fraud. In service of limiting access, of course. But nobody in any real position of authority ever serious attempted to push a 'rigged' narrative.
I think the closest was voting machines made by companies with open associations with republicans giving squirrelly results.
But a concerted, organised effort at fixing an election? On a national scale? Nobody's ever tried that before.
Well good. I hope his businesses go belly-up as a result of his mismanagement, and he goes bankrupt. And then the Russians can come call in his debt.
Obvously, they need Mr. Meeseeks
I agree. Not a fan of piecing together a bunch of circumstantial evidence and then inviting people to create their own truth. Most of the things in that video are terrible enough on their own merit, we don't need to stoop to conspiracy theory.
If there IS something between Trump and Putin, let the journalists/security agencies find the smoking gun. Until then, in this country, we still believe in "Innocent until Proven Guilty".
fucking ouch
Can you have it show both tweets together and 90s style big flashing "ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS" or such?
It worked for him 4 years ago. Think of Trump like a mangy possum. He sneaks in through an open screen door/threatens to run for president. He makes off with some moldy bread/says some stupid shit that people on that side love. He scurries off into the night with no one the wiser/he scurries off into the night with no one the wiser.
Emboldened by his previous success, the possum returns to the scene of the crime/Trump threatens to run for president again. Only this time, the homeowners walk in on him shoveling rotten garbage in his mouth/he called Mexicans rapists on TV. The homeowner freaked the fuck out and chased him into a corner with a broom/liberals got a ton of his partners, like NBC, to stop doing business with him. With nowhere left to run, the hoary old possum leaps at the homeowners face, scaring the ever loving shit out of them/Trump stops threatening to run and commits to run.
Hopefully this story will end the same way my last run in with a possum ended. The home owners shit their pants a little, but the possum sees an opening and scurries out the door, leaving the home owner feeling unsafe/Trump hisses and snarls a bunch, we all shit our pants a little, then he runs away leaving us all feeling unsafe.
The thing is, his staff modified the GOP Ukraine plank, which was the major push they made on the party platform.
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Keep in mind how many businesses Trump had deals with who ran the fuck away within weeks of his campaign started...
This really isn't a surprise. And if Trump keeps kicking reporters off his plane income at his properties campaign stops is just going to continue to go down...
THIS CLICKHOLE... IT WAS MADE FOR ME!
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this is obviously a great day for all Steves everywhere. a terrible day for pretty much everyone else.
And then Manafort lied about it and Trump said his people did it but he himself had nothing to do with what his people did.
Tbh how would you tell
Which is why I wouldn't put that ad in the same league as Trump's "I'm just saying" bullshit. Trump's bull is usually made up whole cloth and easily disproven. The Trump-Russia connection is stuff Trump and company have either lied about or dodged completely.
Got a little bit choked up watching that.
My initial forecast, back whenever this crazy campaign began, was that the only person who can defeat Hillary Clinton is herself.
And, my god. Did you see that logo at the end? They fixed the logo!
I see now it's probably accidental, but shaving the point of the arrow into a curved edge really looks like a stronger decision choice to me.
I don't get it. The page does nothing. Is is broke in my browser?
*edit* NVM, three refreshes later is starts working.
Try this one on for size:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/
thank god, i'm so sick of all these nerds getting to run things with their experience and expertise.
And then later denied they had done it although nobody else but them had any desire to touch the GOP ukraine Plank.
That... That's not how you choose...
*sigh* Forget it.
When I tell my kids to clean their bedroom and I go check to see if they've done it, occasionally they will claim that it is still messy because they "don't know how" to clean it. I know that's a lie, but it's galling that they would try to get out of trouble by pretending to be so inept that something which should be fundamentally and painfully elementary escapes them.
There are still consequences for this sort of behavior! They do not get off scot-free because they are pretending to be incapable. And they are children. Trump wants to have the most important job in the world. Being substandard to this degree should completely disqualify him in the public eye, because even if he's telling the truth (he is not), it betrays his extreme lack of even minimal adequacy.
I mean, not that it's really relevant to the election, but this is my home.
Your election isn't supposed to be anyone near my home.