So I visited my parents on Saturday and I just realized, no fox news. Usually my stepdad has it blaring in the kitchen/living room, this time he was holed up in the office watching crazy people on youtube/whatever.
I'm pretty sure, I mean I can't say this for sure because I'm not even going to start that conversation, but I'm pretty sure my mom made some kind of ultimatum to my stepdad re: watching fox news in a place she can hear it
UHN recently secured malpractice insurance to cover Americans. “We would estimate that including Americans in UHN’s International Patient Program would double Program revenues within two years,” UHN president Robert Bell wrote in a report to the board of trustees in October.
It's not particularly common, because we'd still charge you anyways as foreign patients. Also, we're a small nation, so our level of specialization is lower; our health care system is subject to a higher level of government regulation, which eliminates a lot of the fringe treatments that exist in the US that attract Canadian patients; and we actively try to prevent it.
It was speaking to the socialistic aspect of it, so this isn't entirely relevant to that point. It also doesn't exactly speak to, you know, Americans it seems in that article. The closest thing in either of them is “We know that every year several hundred thousand Americans travel outside of America and spend billions of dollars on their health care." That's not specifically Canada. It says about making services better for Americans, but nothing about them actually making it a destination for Americans.
So, in essence, my point kind of stands? I don't entirely understand the reply.
Well. I answered your question. Because Canadian hospitals have not engaged in medical tourism due to government regulations. Some are only beginning to do so now, but even so against fierce opposition. Even if Americans had wanted to come to Canada for health care, they would have (largely) been turned away. (Toronto's Sick Kids Hospital is a notable exception.)
Also, several other factors that make it so that there are relatively few advantages for Americans seeking health care in Canada. (Still costs money, no unique services, lower levels of specialization, etc.)
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So I visited my parents on Saturday and I just realized, no fox news. Usually my stepdad has it blaring in the kitchen/living room, this time he was holed up in the office watching crazy people on youtube/whatever.
I'm pretty sure, I mean I can't say this for sure because I'm not even going to start that conversation, but I'm pretty sure my mom made some kind of ultimatum to my stepdad re: watching fox news in a place she can hear it
I wish my mom would do that. It's all that's on the TV when I visit home.
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So I visited my parents on Saturday and I just realized, no fox news. Usually my stepdad has it blaring in the kitchen/living room, this time he was holed up in the office watching crazy people on youtube/whatever.
I'm pretty sure, I mean I can't say this for sure because I'm not even going to start that conversation, but I'm pretty sure my mom made some kind of ultimatum to my stepdad re: watching fox news in a place she can hear it
My mom was grilling me on why I was voting for Hillary.
My dad, a staunch Republican, says "Because he has a different viewpoint than we do. Just be glad he cares."
UHN recently secured malpractice insurance to cover Americans. “We would estimate that including Americans in UHN’s International Patient Program would double Program revenues within two years,” UHN president Robert Bell wrote in a report to the board of trustees in October.
It's not particularly common, because we'd still charge you anyways as foreign patients. Also, we're a small nation, so our level of specialization is lower; our health care system is subject to a higher level of government regulation, which eliminates a lot of the fringe treatments that exist in the US that attract Canadian patients; and we actively try to prevent it.
It was speaking to the socialistic aspect of it, so this isn't entirely relevant to that point. It also doesn't exactly speak to, you know, Americans it seems in that article. The closest thing in either of them is “We know that every year several hundred thousand Americans travel outside of America and spend billions of dollars on their health care." That's not specifically Canada. It says about making services better for Americans, but nothing about them actually making it a destination for Americans.
So, in essence, my point kind of stands? I don't entirely understand the reply.
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Well. I answered your question. Because Canadian hospitals have not engaged in medical tourism due to government regulations. Some are only beginning to do2sio now, but even so against fierce opposition. Even if Americans had wanted to come to Canada for health care, they would have (largely) been turned away.
Also, several other factors that make it so that there are relatively few advantages for Americans seeking health care in Canada. (Still costs money, no unique services, lower levels of specialization, etc.)
I wasn't positing a serious question, though. That's why it was written as such. The answer is obvious to anyone on the board. The reason we don't benefit from Canada's health care is because we are not covered by it. He stated that people aren't going to Canada for health care and asked why. I was merely highlighting the absurdity of the question, not asking for an answer that we know. But, thanks for the answer?
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With regards to the odd vote from some women, I remember seeing something on Full Frontal where a woman said some things are impossible for woman to do. It was a thing.
Okay, we're going to need more to go on.
Like the clip?
Full Frontal has done some great interviews of Trump supporters too, but it sounds like this one from the Daily Show (@ 1:30):
I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
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I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
I really don't think her chance of winning can get much higher considering how far we are out.
I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
What you are likely seeing imo is that instead of the polls starting to shift back towards center after the initial bump, they are instead holding steady. Which is good.
When more polls come in, and if there is another bump from the last debate we may see some upward movement, but holding steady at this stage of the campaign is a very good thing.
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I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
I think there's been some pretty exciting individual polls. it's possible that at this point it just takes more to move 538? I haven't looked super close but I've come across several where she's ludicrously far ahead. also maybe she's just expanding a lead in certain sured up states and 538 is not impressed.
UHN recently secured malpractice insurance to cover Americans. “We would estimate that including Americans in UHN’s International Patient Program would double Program revenues within two years,” UHN president Robert Bell wrote in a report to the board of trustees in October.
It's not particularly common, because we'd still charge you anyways as foreign patients. Also, we're a small nation, so our level of specialization is lower; our health care system is subject to a higher level of government regulation, which eliminates a lot of the fringe treatments that exist in the US that attract Canadian patients; and we actively try to prevent it.
It was speaking to the socialistic aspect of it, so this isn't entirely relevant to that point. It also doesn't exactly speak to, you know, Americans it seems in that article. The closest thing in either of them is “We know that every year several hundred thousand Americans travel outside of America and spend billions of dollars on their health care." That's not specifically Canada. It says about making services better for Americans, but nothing about them actually making it a destination for Americans.
So, in essence, my point kind of stands? I don't entirely understand the reply.
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Well. I answered your question. Because Canadian hospitals have not engaged in medical tourism due to government regulations. Some are only beginning to do2sio now, but even so against fierce opposition. Even if Americans had wanted to come to Canada for health care, they would have (largely) been turned away.
Also, several other factors that make it so that there are relatively few advantages for Americans seeking health care in Canada. (Still costs money, no unique services, lower levels of specialization, etc.)
I wasn't positing a serious question, though. That's why it was written as such. The answer is obvious to anyone on the board. The reason we don't benefit from Canada's health care is because we are not covered by it. He stated that people aren't going to Canada for health care and asked why. I was merely highlighting the absurdity of the question, not asking for an answer that we know. But, thanks for the answer?
Okay, first, not every post on this forum has to be antagonistic.
Second, you're now actually misrepresenting the typical motivation for medical tourism. Medical tourists don't travel because of cost issues; they do so because of quality and availability. Poor Americans were never going to come to Canada for health care; the question is whether Canadian facilities can offer high-tier, specialized services that would otherwise be unavailable to rich Americans (at a lower cost). UHN believes it can. Toronto's Sick Kids hospital actually does, though this isn't typically considered to be the same as other sorts of medical tourism, for obvious reasons.
The actual answer is that Canadian hospitals have traditionally been forbidden to engage in medical tourism and a matter of scale between Canada and the US.
I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
Patience.
Then again, Nate Silver himself has said that he feels more confident about his personal subjective opinion than their models at this point. Their models weren't built for an election like this.
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I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
Patience.
Then again, Nate Silver himself has said that he feels more confident about his personal subjective opinion than their models at this point. Their models weren't built for an election like this.
the tone of their podcast put me at incredible ease
UHN recently secured malpractice insurance to cover Americans. “We would estimate that including Americans in UHN’s International Patient Program would double Program revenues within two years,” UHN president Robert Bell wrote in a report to the board of trustees in October.
It's not particularly common, because we'd still charge you anyways as foreign patients. Also, we're a small nation, so our level of specialization is lower; our health care system is subject to a higher level of government regulation, which eliminates a lot of the fringe treatments that exist in the US that attract Canadian patients; and we actively try to prevent it.
It was speaking to the socialistic aspect of it, so this isn't entirely relevant to that point. It also doesn't exactly speak to, you know, Americans it seems in that article. The closest thing in either of them is “We know that every year several hundred thousand Americans travel outside of America and spend billions of dollars on their health care." That's not specifically Canada. It says about making services better for Americans, but nothing about them actually making it a destination for Americans.
So, in essence, my point kind of stands? I don't entirely understand the reply.
1~Q
Well. I answered your question. Because Canadian hospitals have not engaged in medical tourism due to government regulations. Some are only beginning to do2sio now, but even so against fierce opposition. Even if Americans had wanted to come to Canada for health care, they would have (largely) been turned away.
Also, several other factors that make it so that there are relatively few advantages for Americans seeking health care in Canada. (Still costs money, no unique services, lower levels of specialization, etc.)
I wasn't positing a serious question, though. That's why it was written as such. The answer is obvious to anyone on the board. The reason we don't benefit from Canada's health care is because we are not covered by it. He stated that people aren't going to Canada for health care and asked why. I was merely highlighting the absurdity of the question, not asking for an answer that we know. But, thanks for the answer?
Okay, first, not every post on this forum has to be antagonistic.
Second, you're now actually misrepresenting the typical motivation for medical tourism. Medical tourists don't travel because of cost issues; they do so because of quality and availability. Poor Americans were never going to come to Canada for health care; the question is whether Canadian facilities can offer high-tier, specialized services that would otherwise be unavailable to rich Americans (at a lower cost). UHN believes it can. Toronto's Sick Kids hospital actually does, though this isn't typically considered to be the same as other sorts of medical tourism, for obvious reasons.
The actual answer is that Canadian hospitals have traditionally been forbidden to engage in medical tourism and a matter of scale between Canada and the US.
No, but you can also just let it go. When your response starts with "Actually..." you're kind of engendering an antagonistic reproach. It's the exact same tone you took last time we had a chat. I didn't like it then, don't particularly like it now. You were wrong then, and you're trying to be right now despite me knowing the intent of my rhetorical question. Don't attach what you want the question to be to it.
The entire dental industry in Mexico disagrees with your statement. Americans travel, predominantly, to Mexico for dental because of cost. It's prohibitively expensive in the United States.
MY GOD! YES, I know Americans were never going to go to Canada for health care. You're turning a non-question into a soapbox right now to make a point that absolutely doesn't need to be made. At all. The question was rhetorical because of absurdity, not because of likelihood of it happening. Drop it.
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Trump at Florida rally right now: "Crooked Hillary, you know, she's as crooked as a three dollar bill - I used to say two dollar bill, but they make those now."
Trump at Florida rally right now: "Crooked Hillary, you know, she's as crooked as a three dollar bill - I used to say two dollar bill, but they make those now."
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Trump at Florida rally right now: "Crooked Hillary, you know, she's as crooked as a three dollar bill - I used to say two dollar bill, but they make those now."
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Well. That's insane. In no way does that make sense.
Well you see, she might be leading by nine points, but she's been around long enough that she ought to be leading by more, therefore she's really losing.
It makes perfect sense.
If you're having trouble with it, try standing on your head for half an hour and trying it again.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
Well you see, she might be leading by nine points, but she's been around long enough that she ought to be leading by more, therefore she's really losing.
It makes perfect sense.
If you're having trouble with it, try standing on your head for half an hour and trying it again.
I almost feel sorry for Conway. With any other candidate, she might have won. Now she's done. Who's gonna hire her on the national stage anymore? And her kids will need a lot of therapy because their mom stood.by a monster.
Well, not always. But it's been in print since 1976. It's just not printed near as much as the other denominations or as widely circulated.
The guy who owned my local comic store as a kid would always get as many as the bank had to give out as change
When I worked at Harbor Freight there was a well hated customer who would routinely make purchases on the order of $20-50 with a stack of $2 bills, and then laugh as the cashier can't figure out where in the till to stick them all.
I almost feel sorry for Conway. With any other candidate, she might have won. Now she's done. Who's gonna hire her on the national stage anymore? And her kids will need a lot of therapy because their mom stood.by a monster.
Republican party hacks who want somebody who is willing and able to work with the most difficult cases. Why would people not want to hire her? A month ago today Trump, far and away the dumbest and most self-destructive candidate ever to mount a podium, was within striking distance of one of the most powerful and connected politicians in the United States. That was almost entirely because of her PR work and planning.
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I'm a little dismayed that the 538 polls have shown little change so far even though the controversy should start to be in effect by now. I wonder if it really didn't make much difference because he already lost the people he was going to lose in the week following the first debate. Hopefully at least the mass GOP exodus and poor second debate will have an impact by this weekend.
Patience.
Then again, Nate Silver himself has said that he feels more confident about his personal subjective opinion than their models at this point. Their models weren't built for an election like this.
the tone of their podcast put me at incredible ease
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I'm pretty sure, I mean I can't say this for sure because I'm not even going to start that conversation, but I'm pretty sure my mom made some kind of ultimatum to my stepdad re: watching fox news in a place she can hear it
His stage was broken. Unfair. Rigged.
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Well. I answered your question. Because Canadian hospitals have not engaged in medical tourism due to government regulations. Some are only beginning to do so now, but even so against fierce opposition. Even if Americans had wanted to come to Canada for health care, they would have (largely) been turned away. (Toronto's Sick Kids Hospital is a notable exception.)
Also, several other factors that make it so that there are relatively few advantages for Americans seeking health care in Canada. (Still costs money, no unique services, lower levels of specialization, etc.)
The reporters look is priceless.
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I wish my mom would do that. It's all that's on the TV when I visit home.
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yes. all trump supporters should vote November 28th
My mom was grilling me on why I was voting for Hillary.
My dad, a staunch Republican, says "Because he has a different viewpoint than we do. Just be glad he cares."
I was blown away. Seriously.
The President giving a speech in North Carolina. He's also doing a student forum on ESPN in 13 minutes.
EDIT: By the way, this speech includes the President of the United States checking to make sure he does not, in fact, smell like sulphur.
He's so deadly and so dreamy. I wish I could compare him to a movie character but honestly I think they'll be making movies about him in a few years.
I wasn't positing a serious question, though. That's why it was written as such. The answer is obvious to anyone on the board. The reason we don't benefit from Canada's health care is because we are not covered by it. He stated that people aren't going to Canada for health care and asked why. I was merely highlighting the absurdity of the question, not asking for an answer that we know. But, thanks for the answer?
It's not, but similar. The one had what I assume was a couple talking to the reporter.
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I really don't think her chance of winning can get much higher considering how far we are out.
A month is an eternity.
What you are likely seeing imo is that instead of the polls starting to shift back towards center after the initial bump, they are instead holding steady. Which is good.
When more polls come in, and if there is another bump from the last debate we may see some upward movement, but holding steady at this stage of the campaign is a very good thing.
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I think there's been some pretty exciting individual polls. it's possible that at this point it just takes more to move 538? I haven't looked super close but I've come across several where she's ludicrously far ahead. also maybe she's just expanding a lead in certain sured up states and 538 is not impressed.
Okay, first, not every post on this forum has to be antagonistic.
Second, you're now actually misrepresenting the typical motivation for medical tourism. Medical tourists don't travel because of cost issues; they do so because of quality and availability. Poor Americans were never going to come to Canada for health care; the question is whether Canadian facilities can offer high-tier, specialized services that would otherwise be unavailable to rich Americans (at a lower cost). UHN believes it can. Toronto's Sick Kids hospital actually does, though this isn't typically considered to be the same as other sorts of medical tourism, for obvious reasons.
The actual answer is that Canadian hospitals have traditionally been forbidden to engage in medical tourism and a matter of scale between Canada and the US.
Patience.
Then again, Nate Silver himself has said that he feels more confident about his personal subjective opinion than their models at this point. Their models weren't built for an election like this.
the tone of their podcast put me at incredible ease
No, but you can also just let it go. When your response starts with "Actually..." you're kind of engendering an antagonistic reproach. It's the exact same tone you took last time we had a chat. I didn't like it then, don't particularly like it now. You were wrong then, and you're trying to be right now despite me knowing the intent of my rhetorical question. Don't attach what you want the question to be to it.
The entire dental industry in Mexico disagrees with your statement. Americans travel, predominantly, to Mexico for dental because of cost. It's prohibitively expensive in the United States.
MY GOD! YES, I know Americans were never going to go to Canada for health care. You're turning a non-question into a soapbox right now to make a point that absolutely doesn't need to be made. At all. The question was rhetorical because of absurdity, not because of likelihood of it happening. Drop it.
wait for it...
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Well. That's insane. In no way does that make sense.
They are criticizing Clinton's poll numbers... when she is 8-10 points ahead.
They really just have nothing anymore.
Well you see, she might be leading by nine points, but she's been around long enough that she ought to be leading by more, therefore she's really losing.
It makes perfect sense.
If you're having trouble with it, try standing on your head for half an hour and trying it again.
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Keith, I know you're apparently kind of an asshole to work with, but I do miss when you were more prominent on TV.
Bill Clinton being a satyr actually would explain a lot.
Well, not always. But it's been in print since 1976. It's just not printed near as much as the other denominations or as widely circulated.
The guy who owned my local comic store as a kid would always get as many as the bank had to give out as change
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When I worked at Harbor Freight there was a well hated customer who would routinely make purchases on the order of $20-50 with a stack of $2 bills, and then laugh as the cashier can't figure out where in the till to stick them all.
$2 bills are for assholes.
His bloviating moral outrage shtick as a "real" newsanchor was borderline unbearable. The kind of thing that made you wish you didn't agree with him.
Republican party hacks who want somebody who is willing and able to work with the most difficult cases. Why would people not want to hire her? A month ago today Trump, far and away the dumbest and most self-destructive candidate ever to mount a podium, was within striking distance of one of the most powerful and connected politicians in the United States. That was almost entirely because of her PR work and planning.
Link?