Yeah a lot of people don't realize that at amazon warehouses there are these little robot pallet jacks that just go and grab pallets and move them to and from places.
Like they've replaced people to do that.
That's only going to increase.
yeah when they start costing less than $500,000 a unit, goodbye warehouse employees
shit, if they just cost 500k/10yr combining maintenance and downtime, with no risk of workers compensation, they will be a steal.
warehouse employees don't cost $50k/yr here yet
I'd say you get them down in the $300k range and it'll be over though
yeah they do; benefits, overtime, only 1 shift a day, probably only 5-6 shifts a week, workers compensation, etc.
dude i work in an actual warehouse
i know how much workers here cost
it's not $50k/yr
workers compensation is hardly even a line item, people get hurt like once every couple years
bennies don't add up? my work claims it spends $300-500 on our insurance monthly
I am going to elect for the $9/pay period you have a $5k deductible and just pray i guess
the $80 you get $2500 to spend but have $5k deductible still seems... i dunno. if i use all 2500, that's awesome i saved $500. but if i don't... wasted money.
I think their is tax incentives on that 80 as well but am unsure.
OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
i have no opinion on this matter, but i as always stand with chanus. or behind him actually if violence is about to occur because he is perfectly shield shaped
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zepherinRussian warship, go fuck yourselfRegistered Userregular
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Yeah we are coming to another major revolution in humanity.
And that means a lot of pain before we come out the other side with a system in place to allow us to function again. Its scary for us because we get to live through it. And societal change on this scale has a lot of shit times over good times. But at the end humanity will have civilization very different than the current industrial model. I mean we are still mostly running off a system designed in the late 1800's early 1900's.
So yes, expect suck. Also probably our grandchildren will live in something closer to Star Trek than we do today.
Also don't laugh too much at basic income in the US. It is still very much liked by Libertarian and Conservative think tanks.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Then you boil and use that water.
I love that it actually says "gravel/sand/charcoal"
The problem is what do you do with those buckets every month?
I am going to elect for the $9/pay period you have a $5k deductible and just pray i guess
the $80 you get $2500 to spend but have $5k deductible still seems... i dunno. if i use all 2500, that's awesome i saved $500. but if i don't... wasted money.
I think their is tax incentives on that 80 as well but am unsure.
it is pre-tax yes. i wonder how much less tax i'd pay if i subtracted $80 from my paycheck
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
Yeah a lot of people don't realize that at amazon warehouses there are these little robot pallet jacks that just go and grab pallets and move them to and from places.
Like they've replaced people to do that.
That's only going to increase.
yeah when they start costing less than $500,000 a unit, goodbye warehouse employees
shit, if they just cost 500k/10yr combining maintenance and downtime, with no risk of workers compensation, they will be a steal.
warehouse employees don't cost $50k/yr here yet
I'd say you get them down in the $300k range and it'll be over though
yeah they do; benefits, overtime, only 1 shift a day, probably only 5-6 shifts a week, workers compensation, etc.
dude i work in an actual warehouse
i know how much workers here cost
it's not $50k/yr
workers compensation is hardly even a line item, people get hurt like once every couple years
You probably pay $12 an hour if I had to guess.
But a lot of those numbers are only not numbers because of how many workers you have to offset it. But I bet "$12/hr" has a bit more to it than $25,000 a year on those spreadsheets. Like medical, that's expensive. You no longer have to pay the income taxes for your 50k a year worker, they never get hurt, or at least, they won't sue you if they do get hurt. I bet lawsuits aren't really a number in your spreadsheet either, it's just one of those costs that no one thinks about because it's not an actual dollar amount they can visualize at the end of the day.
It's the same reason my boss can't visualize the good place to spend money because the actual costs are sunk into things he's already paying so they're invisible on the expense accounts. The only thing it costs is employee time, which, may not be something one thinks about as a cost necessarily.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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ThomamelasOnly one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered Userregular
Why do unfunny vendors always try to make me laugh and also always call when I email asking for details they have to email?
@six is it a salesman or rep rule you have to call cause I just want an email. One guy yesterday called all three of my phones just to say he was emailing and then his email was slow
I said ok email me and hung up
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
Yeah a lot of people don't realize that at amazon warehouses there are these little robot pallet jacks that just go and grab pallets and move them to and from places.
Like they've replaced people to do that.
That's only going to increase.
yeah when they start costing less than $500,000 a unit, goodbye warehouse employees
shit, if they just cost 500k/10yr combining maintenance and downtime, with no risk of workers compensation, they will be a steal.
warehouse employees don't cost $50k/yr here yet
I'd say you get them down in the $300k range and it'll be over though
yeah they do; benefits, overtime, only 1 shift a day, probably only 5-6 shifts a week, workers compensation, etc.
dude i work in an actual warehouse
i know how much workers here cost
it's not $50k/yr
workers compensation is hardly even a line item, people get hurt like once every couple years
bennies don't add up? my work claims it spends $300-500 on our insurance monthly
$12/hr * 40 * 52 = 24960
our insurance is like $45/wk on average, so 45 * 52 = 2340
we don't offer other benefits
vacation is factored into 52 weeks of pay
27300
even if people work 45 hours a week, it's still only 12*47.5*52+2340 = 31980
you could argue robots can work 24 hours, but we're not open and taking orders 24 hours a day and the work gets done by the end of the day every day, so there's no benefit to 24 hour robots
it's a viable solution for like amazon and walmart, but not for normal sized businesses
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Then you boil and use that water.
I love that it actually says "gravel/sand/charcoal"
The problem is what do you do with those buckets every month?
Luckily during nuclear america, you won't have to go to work, so you have an extra 8 hours a day to figure that shit out.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
add in payroll taxes as well i suppose, maybe another $5k
Let me have a little electric Ariel Atom to plug into a solar powered charging station amidst all the self driving pods
No, you can't drive as well as a robot. Go pay to drive on a track if you wanna drive. Everyone else will be in the cars 2 inches apart going 150 down the highway with crashes reduced to a tiny fraction of what they were.
I bet this is how second amendment people feel all the time about their freedoms
Probably. And it is a dumb feeling.
There will never be an America where they will be unable to shoot at the range or hunt, much like there will never be an America where you can't get your drive on (in very controlled situations).
But the idea of driving manually on a shared road will go way out of vogue in the coming decade. Probably illegal in the next two.
But my freedoms and my emotions
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
I look forward to watching the colony ships leave my old ass behind to die on this rock while they go terraform mars or that hidden 9th planet or whatever.
How cool is that EM drive if it actually works in space? So far their testing methodology has been validated and it worked in a test environment so it'd be really awesome if it works in space!
I suspect we might be surprised by how quickly the Republicans would adopt a guaranteed income model and claim it's been their idea all along (which isn't even untrue, really), though it may not be the one we'd want
The real problem would be getting taxes to increase enough on the massive profits of companies that have cut labour costs and paid off the costs of their equipment to pay for a really decent guaranteed income.
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Then you boil and use that water.
I love that it actually says "gravel/sand/charcoal"
The problem is what do you do with those buckets every month?
Luckily during nuclear america, you won't have to go to work, so you have an extra 8 hours a day to figure that shit out.
eh,
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
Why do unfunny vendors always try to make me laugh and also always call when I email asking for details they have to email?
@six is it a salesman or rep rule you have to call cause I just want an email. One guy yesterday called all three of my phones just to say he was emailing and then his email was slow
I said ok email me and hung up
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
I have one vendor going so hard in the paint for our printer business but we have 25 months left on our 5 year lease. He claims he's done buyouts up to FOUR YEARS out... but every other company has told me 12-15 months is max.
I finally agreed to let him meet with me again. He's been bugging me nonstop for years, I swear to god.
I hate dealing with vendors. Luckily my company has no interest in purchasing really so I just do other things mostly!
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Then you boil and use that water.
I love that it actually says "gravel/sand/charcoal"
The problem is what do you do with those buckets every month?
Luckily during nuclear america, you won't have to go to work, so you have an extra 8 hours a day to figure that shit out.
I mean I guess I could put it on a pull behind trailer and take it out to the desert and just bury it once a quarter and put a red flag in it.
are YOU on the beer list?
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ThomamelasOnly one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered Userregular
I discovered recently that there's a decommissioned missile silo outside the town next to my town. Used to be a part of NORAD or the Triangle out here in Cali before the missile building stuff at Mather was shut down.
I'm p sure this means the Russians still have it listed as a target for a nuke strike.
Which is just great!
The Sacramento area would get pasted simply because there is a high enough population density to hit it. Most cities over 50k likely make the Russian targeting list because when you have over 7k good sized warheads then there is no reason to be stingy.
I live in the foothills currently, so I was hoping for some sort of protection from the Valley getting glassed, if that ever happened.
but now that there's a silo nearby, it would probably still be listed as a target, so yeah. So much for that.
You're fucked. Even if the blast doesn't touch you. Even if the radiation and the fallout doesn't get you then you need to keep in mind that you're in a moderately wooded area. Take a moment to imagine just how many wildfires would be started by all of the various blasts all around California.
I'm sorry, let me give you some of the other follow on effects. Fallout will make it's way into the water supply. So you're gonna need to carefully filter all of your water. Any nuclear plant near you will contribute heavy metals to that nastiness. Then you have stuff like untreated sewage overflow that's gonna make lots of fun diseases spread. Basically the best possible individual outcome after a nuclear war is to be in the blast area and die close to instantly.
Luckily, most radioactive particles do not dissolve in water and can be filtered out.
Then you boil and use that water.
It generally means having that set up already and running. It's not going to be very common. And there are lots of other follow on effects that can still get you.
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
If you're gonna do an FSA just do the $2500 card option instead I think. Unless you definitely think you'll spend somewhere in the $1000 range only
now that i've given up on depression meds, i really don't have much in the way of health costs. i could maybe find my thing on a generic list from a pharmacy.
vision insurance and dental are separate and i'll opt for those.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
add in payroll taxes as well i suppose, maybe another $5k
but we're not approaching $50k/employee
my total compensation (i.e. total cost to the company for my labor) is more than 50% what my pay is. that's not including liability insurance and other overhead stuff like that
this is probably less at a factory where I would expect fewer benefits, but still, probably 25-30% premium I think
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
Why do unfunny vendors always try to make me laugh and also always call when I email asking for details they have to email?
@six is it a salesman or rep rule you have to call cause I just want an email. One guy yesterday called all three of my phones just to say he was emailing and then his email was slow
I said ok email me and hung up
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
I have one vendor going so hard in the paint for our printer business but we have 25 months left on our 5 year lease. He claims he's done buyouts up to FOUR YEARS out... but every other company has told me 12-15 months is max.
I finally agreed to let him meet with me again. He's been bugging me nonstop for years, I swear to god.
I hate dealing with vendors. Luckily my company has no interest in purchasing really so I just do other things mostly!
Those kind of people don't sound super fun to deal with.
The ones that make it higher know what they're doing and can be awesome. Or worse.
Six on
can you feel the struggle within?
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Yeah a lot of people don't realize that at amazon warehouses there are these little robot pallet jacks that just go and grab pallets and move them to and from places.
Like they've replaced people to do that.
That's only going to increase.
yeah when they start costing less than $500,000 a unit, goodbye warehouse employees
shit, if they just cost 500k/10yr combining maintenance and downtime, with no risk of workers compensation, they will be a steal.
warehouse employees don't cost $50k/yr here yet
I'd say you get them down in the $300k range and it'll be over though
yeah they do; benefits, overtime, only 1 shift a day, probably only 5-6 shifts a week, workers compensation, etc.
dude i work in an actual warehouse
i know how much workers here cost
it's not $50k/yr
workers compensation is hardly even a line item, people get hurt like once every couple years
You probably pay $12 an hour if I had to guess.
But a lot of those numbers are only not numbers because of how many workers you have to offset it. But I bet "$12/hr" has a bit more to it than $25,000 a year on those spreadsheets. Like medical, that's expensive. You no longer have to pay the income taxes for your 50k a year worker, they never get hurt, or at least, they won't sue you if they do get hurt. I bet lawsuits aren't really a number in your spreadsheet either, it's just one of those costs that no one thinks about because it's not an actual dollar amount they can visualize at the end of the day.
It's the same reason my boss can't visualize the good place to spend money because the actual costs are sunk into things he's already paying so they're invisible on the expense accounts. The only thing it costs is employee time, which, may not be something one thinks about as a cost necessarily.
add in payroll taxes as well i suppose, maybe another $5k
but we're not approaching $50k/employee
my total compensation (i.e. total cost to the company for my labor) is more than 50% what my pay is. that's not including liability insurance and other overhead stuff like that
this is probably less at a factory where I would expect fewer benefits, but still, probably 25-30% premium I think
yeah warehouses don't tend to have amazing benefits packages
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
Yeah a lot of people don't realize that at amazon warehouses there are these little robot pallet jacks that just go and grab pallets and move them to and from places.
Like they've replaced people to do that.
That's only going to increase.
yeah when they start costing less than $500,000 a unit, goodbye warehouse employees
shit, if they just cost 500k/10yr combining maintenance and downtime, with no risk of workers compensation, they will be a steal.
warehouse employees don't cost $50k/yr here yet
I'd say you get them down in the $300k range and it'll be over though
yeah they do; benefits, overtime, only 1 shift a day, probably only 5-6 shifts a week, workers compensation, etc.
dude i work in an actual warehouse
i know how much workers here cost
it's not $50k/yr
workers compensation is hardly even a line item, people get hurt like once every couple years
bennies don't add up? my work claims it spends $300-500 on our insurance monthly
$12/hr * 40 * 52 = 24960
our insurance is like $45/wk on average, so 45 * 52 = 2340
we don't offer other benefits
vacation is factored into 52 weeks of pay
27300
even if people work 45 hours a week, it's still only 12*47.5*52+2340 = 31980
you could argue robots can work 24 hours, but we're not open and taking orders 24 hours a day and the work gets done by the end of the day every day, so there's no benefit to 24 hour robots
it's a viable solution for like amazon and walmart, but not for normal sized businesses
at least, not yet
how do you have workers at 40 hours a week with no health insurance
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
Why do unfunny vendors always try to make me laugh and also always call when I email asking for details they have to email?
@six is it a salesman or rep rule you have to call cause I just want an email. One guy yesterday called all three of my phones just to say he was emailing and then his email was slow
I said ok email me and hung up
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
I have one vendor going so hard in the paint for our printer business but we have 25 months left on our 5 year lease. He claims he's done buyouts up to FOUR YEARS out... but every other company has told me 12-15 months is max.
I finally agreed to let him meet with me again. He's been bugging me nonstop for years, I swear to god.
I hate dealing with vendors. Luckily my company has no interest in purchasing really so I just do other things mostly!
Those kind of people don't sound super fun to deal with.
The ones that make it higher know what they;re doing and can be awesome. Or worse.
I would be an excellent salesman because I am
#1 fun
#2 get to the point, I use few words and don't babble
#3 know my shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit or learn it
#4 listen
hm maybe I should be an inside sales person after all. the devil doth tempt.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
Shit even my job is going to be obsolete in a decade.
I mean a robot can change hard drives and rack servers and run cable and powershell scrips can pretty much do what I do now without me being here.
are YOU on the beer list?
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
Why do unfunny vendors always try to make me laugh and also always call when I email asking for details they have to email?
@six is it a salesman or rep rule you have to call cause I just want an email. One guy yesterday called all three of my phones just to say he was emailing and then his email was slow
I said ok email me and hung up
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
I have one vendor going so hard in the paint for our printer business but we have 25 months left on our 5 year lease. He claims he's done buyouts up to FOUR YEARS out... but every other company has told me 12-15 months is max.
I finally agreed to let him meet with me again. He's been bugging me nonstop for years, I swear to god.
I hate dealing with vendors. Luckily my company has no interest in purchasing really so I just do other things mostly!
Those kind of people don't sound super fun to deal with.
The ones that make it higher know what they;re doing and can be awesome. Or worse.
I would be an excellent salesman because I am
#1 fun
#2 get to the point, I use few words and don't babble
#3 know my shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit or learn it
#4 listen
hm maybe I should be an inside sales person after all. the devil doth tempt.
#4 should be #1 and also #2.
can you feel the struggle within?
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
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bennies don't add up? my work claims it spends $300-500 on our insurance monthly
I think their is tax incentives on that 80 as well but am unsure.
Then you boil and use that water.
And that means a lot of pain before we come out the other side with a system in place to allow us to function again. Its scary for us because we get to live through it. And societal change on this scale has a lot of shit times over good times. But at the end humanity will have civilization very different than the current industrial model. I mean we are still mostly running off a system designed in the late 1800's early 1900's.
So yes, expect suck. Also probably our grandchildren will live in something closer to Star Trek than we do today.
Also don't laugh too much at basic income in the US. It is still very much liked by Libertarian and Conservative think tanks.
I love that it actually says "gravel/sand/charcoal"
The problem is what do you do with those buckets every month?
http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-big-mac-inventor-jim-delligatti-dies-2016-11
it is pre-tax yes. i wonder how much less tax i'd pay if i subtracted $80 from my paycheck
OR I COULD GO ALL IN AND HRA/FSA UP THE BHOLE
You probably pay $12 an hour if I had to guess.
But a lot of those numbers are only not numbers because of how many workers you have to offset it. But I bet "$12/hr" has a bit more to it than $25,000 a year on those spreadsheets. Like medical, that's expensive. You no longer have to pay the income taxes for your 50k a year worker, they never get hurt, or at least, they won't sue you if they do get hurt. I bet lawsuits aren't really a number in your spreadsheet either, it's just one of those costs that no one thinks about because it's not an actual dollar amount they can visualize at the end of the day.
It's the same reason my boss can't visualize the good place to spend money because the actual costs are sunk into things he's already paying so they're invisible on the expense accounts. The only thing it costs is employee time, which, may not be something one thinks about as a cost necessarily.
India and Pakistan is always a possibility.
It's probably some rule for inside sales. A real rep would just email you, but a real rep is also building a relationship with you. This guy wants you to agree to a meeting so he can move on.
Anyone who won't leave you alone doesn't know what they're doing or is pushing something where that doesn't matter.
@OnTheLastCastle
$12/hr * 40 * 52 = 24960
our insurance is like $45/wk on average, so 45 * 52 = 2340
we don't offer other benefits
vacation is factored into 52 weeks of pay
27300
even if people work 45 hours a week, it's still only 12*47.5*52+2340 = 31980
you could argue robots can work 24 hours, but we're not open and taking orders 24 hours a day and the work gets done by the end of the day every day, so there's no benefit to 24 hour robots
it's a viable solution for like amazon and walmart, but not for normal sized businesses
at least, not yet
but we're not approaching $50k/employee
But my freedoms and my emotions
If you're gonna do an FSA just do the $2500 card option instead I think. Unless you definitely think you'll spend somewhere in the $1000 range only
How cool is that EM drive if it actually works in space? So far their testing methodology has been validated and it worked in a test environment so it'd be really awesome if it works in space!
The real problem would be getting taxes to increase enough on the massive profits of companies that have cut labour costs and paid off the costs of their equipment to pay for a really decent guaranteed income.
eh,
I have one vendor going so hard in the paint for our printer business but we have 25 months left on our 5 year lease. He claims he's done buyouts up to FOUR YEARS out... but every other company has told me 12-15 months is max.
I finally agreed to let him meet with me again. He's been bugging me nonstop for years, I swear to god.
I hate dealing with vendors. Luckily my company has no interest in purchasing really so I just do other things mostly!
I mean I guess I could put it on a pull behind trailer and take it out to the desert and just bury it once a quarter and put a red flag in it.
It generally means having that set up already and running. It's not going to be very common. And there are lots of other follow on effects that can still get you.
now that i've given up on depression meds, i really don't have much in the way of health costs. i could maybe find my thing on a generic list from a pharmacy.
vision insurance and dental are separate and i'll opt for those.
my total compensation (i.e. total cost to the company for my labor) is more than 50% what my pay is. that's not including liability insurance and other overhead stuff like that
this is probably less at a factory where I would expect fewer benefits, but still, probably 25-30% premium I think
Those kind of people don't sound super fun to deal with.
The ones that make it higher know what they're doing and can be awesome. Or worse.
it doesn't happen often enough to think about
how much does it cost to train your employees?
do you keep training them? What about if they leave, do you train new workers?
What about insurance in case they break things or cost the company money?
What about heating/cooling your warehouse or toilet facilities, etc?
Those are things you absolutely do not have to think about with robot workers, but they are a a cost that is not salary.
yeah warehouses don't tend to have amazing benefits packages
how do you have workers at 40 hours a week with no health insurance
I would be an excellent salesman because I am
#1 fun
#2 get to the point, I use few words and don't babble
#3 know my shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit or learn it
#4 listen
hm maybe I should be an inside sales person after all. the devil doth tempt.
I mean a robot can change hard drives and rack servers and run cable and powershell scrips can pretty much do what I do now without me being here.
#4 should be #1 and also #2.
you guys act like this isn't literally part of what i do