I enjoyed Discovery a lot and I feel like I have to qualify this somehow because of the immense amount of baggage the franchise brings with it
thing is that the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery are an excellent pilot for a spaceship TV show, of which there are very few left to go around nowadays, and it is exciting as hell to watch.
It's also extremely cavalier about discarding a bunch of series staples, especially aesthetically, and picks up about as many visual cues from the new trilogy as TNG did from the first few TOS movies. They also seem to have absolutely no interest in maintaining coherency in things like how Klingons look and the specific tech level of the Federation at this point. So it takes place before TOS almost exclusively because it seems interested in the political configuration of the galaxy at this point in the story - everything else has been tossed out.
It's a tricky balance to have fanservice while also wanting to be its own thing and I think for the most part it nails that.
I feel like if it keeps up this level of quality I'll keep enjoying it as long as I never once think about Jean-Luc Picard because it seems almost ludicrous that it could take place in the same universe, despite everyone using words that mean things I know about from past decades of TV and movies. It definitely knocks it out of the park way better than the first two episodes of any other Trek for all that's worth.
What a weird, fascinating beast.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
give kevin james an emmy for this stirring portrayal of grief, imo
Fuck that clip for real.
And fuck the laugh track the was looped for the punchline.
Ugh.
Just, ugh.
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I think I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that no Scandinoir is likely to live up to season one of fortitude. The genre has been forever both elevated and ruined.
Star Trek Discovery has better production values than a bunch of Trek movies and the general feel of the first episode is somewhere between TNG and Abrams Trek.
now I'm wondering what is going on in the universe where Breaking Bad ended up being five seasons' worth of the dark comedy of errors that the first couple episodes had going on
I think I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that no Scandinoir is likely to live up to season one of fortitude. The genre has been forever both elevated and ruined.
I think every show could be improved by adding some
prehistoric parasitic wasp larvae driving people mad, to be honest
I enjoyed Discovery a lot and I feel like I have to qualify this somehow because of the immense amount of baggage the franchise brings with it
thing is that the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery are an excellent pilot for a spaceship TV show, of which there are very few left to go around nowadays, and it is exciting as hell to watch.
It's also extremely cavalier about discarding a bunch of series staples, especially aesthetically, and picks up about as many visual cues from the new trilogy as TNG did from the first few TOS movies. They also seem to have absolutely no interest in maintaining coherency in things like how Klingons look and the specific tech level of the Federation at this point. So it takes place before TOS almost exclusively because it seems interested in the political configuration of the galaxy at this point in the story - everything else has been tossed out.
It's a tricky balance to have fanservice while also wanting to be its own thing and I think for the most part it nails that.
I feel like if it keeps up this level of quality I'll keep enjoying it as long as I never once think about Jean-Luc Picard because it seems almost ludicrous that it could take place in the same universe, despite everyone using words that mean things I know about from past decades of TV and movies. I definitely knocks it out of the park way better than the first two episodes of any other Trek for all that's worth.
What a weird, fascinating beast.
Yeah this is kind of how I felt about it. I didn't dislike it but everything felt...dark? The costumes, the lighting, the color pallet, the subject matter, the characters. And oh my god how is this a prequal, if your going to do that at least commit to the tech level and such. I know that seems pedantic, but I'm a Trek fan, I was raised on being pedantic.
I've actually been enjoying Orville more then I thought I would. Its not perfect by any means, and this last episode was a bit heavier then they earned 3 episodes in and didn't handle the subject matter as well as I think they think they did, but its lighter, and more fun to me.
Sadly I won't be able to give Star Trek more of a chance because from what I understand, even with my cable package they still want you to pay and extra $6 a month for their streaming service to watch it.
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My biggest issue, after watching two episodes, was sticking with the Klingon Language with subtitles. There were specific points where the subtitles were washed out against a bright background and really hard to read. Also these guys, unlike all other Klingon speak ever shown in all of Star Trek, talk SO FUCKING SLOWLY. Jesus Christ. Either speed these dudes up or pull a Hunt for Red October and switch over to another language.
I think I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that no Scandinoir is likely to live up to season one of fortitude. The genre has been forever both elevated and ruined.
There's nothing in it as bizarre as Fortitude was, but I enjoyed Trapped. Real good lead actor.
I think I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that no Scandinoir is likely to live up to season one of fortitude. The genre has been forever both elevated and ruined.
There's nothing in it as bizarre as Fortitude was, but I enjoyed Trapped. Real good lead actor.
I just finished watching Trapped, which is what prompted the above comment. It was ... fine? Good, I guess?
"Perfectly satisfactory police procedural in the vein of The Killing or The Bridge" is the review I'd probably go with. Plus, Icelandic is fun to listen to.
I just felt very spoiled by Fortitude:
Not because of the gore, or the occasional bizarreness, but because of how willing the show was to deal with multipe layers of mystery and how it refused to hold your hand with either the narrative or the characters. "Can we trust this guy? What's his deal? What's her motivation? Is this person being creepy or insane, or is there something else going on?" The show sure as shit wasn't going to help you out, and went out of its way to avoid exposition or moral clarity.
Which is why Season 2 was less successful for me, because so many characters were held over from season one that some of the layers of mystery had been lost. And the show didn't really try and rebuild them - if someone was in a conflict with a character we already liked and trusted, they were probably a scumbag*. It substituted mysticism for mystery, which was ... less interesting. Still really good, and utterly disturbing, but not quite up there.
There were a bunch of other ways in which Fortitude just went above and beyond - the cinematography was superb, and it managed to give out a sense of cold in an incredibly visceral way. Which is impressive for a show where a bunch of people always seem to be wandering around barefoot.
*you could argue this point with Dan, I guess, but the way he came back was, I think, presented from the start as being somewhere outside human motivation, so it again didn't have the same ambiguity as season one.
I liked season one of Fortitude and was excited for the second season. But we only made it about halfway through it before just falling off it. The Killing I gave a season before moving on. It just felt like it was wasting my time. That could also be because I watched it week to week instead of all at once.
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My biggest issue, after watching two episodes, was sticking with the Klingon Language with subtitles. There were specific points where the subtitles were washed out against a bright background and really hard to read. Also these guys, unlike all other Klingon speak ever shown in all of Star Trek, talk SO FUCKING SLOWLY. Jesus Christ. Either speed these dudes up or pull a Hunt for Red October and switch over to another language.
Oh my gosh yes, this was driving me insane
It felt like it was only the two main guys though. The other Klingons seemed to speak their lines like actual people.
My biggest issue, after watching two episodes, was sticking with the Klingon Language with subtitles. There were specific points where the subtitles were washed out against a bright background and really hard to read. Also these guys, unlike all other Klingon speak ever shown in all of Star Trek, talk SO FUCKING SLOWLY. Jesus Christ. Either speed these dudes up or pull a Hunt for Red October and switch over to another language.
Oh my gosh yes, this was driving me insane
It felt like it was only the two main guys though. The other Klingons seemed to speak their lines like actual people.
Maybe they are just experts at performing Shakespeare in the original Klingon.
I had a student ask me the question, "If you could live in anyone TV show, what would it be?"
And the other students answered with stuff like The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones.
I happily answered, "Cheers!"
I was in the midst of asking why the fuck would you want to live in Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, of why being suddenly and violently offed would be an appealing fantasy
And then I was like, "Oh, right, 2017."
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I had a student ask me the question, "If you could live in anyone TV show, what would it be?"
And the other students answered with stuff like The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones.
I happily answered, "Cheers!"
I was in the midst of asking why the fuck would you want to live in Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, of why being suddenly and violently offed would be an appealing fantasy
And then I was like, "Oh, right, 2017."
Just waiting for Jeffery Dean Morgan to knock on my door and beat my fucking brains out with a club
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I had a student ask me the question, "If you could live in anyone TV show, what would it be?"
And the other students answered with stuff like The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones.
I happily answered, "Cheers!"
I was in the midst of asking why the fuck would you want to live in Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, of why being suddenly and violently offed would be an appealing fantasy
And then I was like, "Oh, right, 2017."
The other adult in the room answered, "The Gilmore Girls."
So don't worry, middle schoolers just have no sense of easy comfort.
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oh no I really do think Breaking Bad is a fantastic show and excellently written character study, flaws and all
It just ends in a very different style than it starts
give kevin james an emmy for this stirring portrayal of grief, imo
hmm
I enjoyed Discovery a lot and I feel like I have to qualify this somehow because of the immense amount of baggage the franchise brings with it
thing is that the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery are an excellent pilot for a spaceship TV show, of which there are very few left to go around nowadays, and it is exciting as hell to watch.
It's also extremely cavalier about discarding a bunch of series staples, especially aesthetically, and picks up about as many visual cues from the new trilogy as TNG did from the first few TOS movies. They also seem to have absolutely no interest in maintaining coherency in things like how Klingons look and the specific tech level of the Federation at this point. So it takes place before TOS almost exclusively because it seems interested in the political configuration of the galaxy at this point in the story - everything else has been tossed out.
It's a tricky balance to have fanservice while also wanting to be its own thing and I think for the most part it nails that.
I feel like if it keeps up this level of quality I'll keep enjoying it as long as I never once think about Jean-Luc Picard because it seems almost ludicrous that it could take place in the same universe, despite everyone using words that mean things I know about from past decades of TV and movies. It definitely knocks it out of the park way better than the first two episodes of any other Trek for all that's worth.
What a weird, fascinating beast.
Greatest show ever
How you gonna have a dude in grey sweatpants and not show a dickprint
Fuck that clip for real.
And fuck the laugh track the was looped for the punchline.
Ugh.
Just, ugh.
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
Fargo has taken up that mantle in our universe.
I think every show could be improved by adding some
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Yeah this is kind of how I felt about it. I didn't dislike it but everything felt...dark? The costumes, the lighting, the color pallet, the subject matter, the characters. And oh my god how is this a prequal, if your going to do that at least commit to the tech level and such. I know that seems pedantic, but I'm a Trek fan, I was raised on being pedantic.
I've actually been enjoying Orville more then I thought I would. Its not perfect by any means, and this last episode was a bit heavier then they earned 3 episodes in and didn't handle the subject matter as well as I think they think they did, but its lighter, and more fun to me.
Sadly I won't be able to give Star Trek more of a chance because from what I understand, even with my cable package they still want you to pay and extra $6 a month for their streaming service to watch it.
I was like no, you need some lights and stuff dudes, not explicit numbers.
Satans..... hints.....
Lol what are you talking about, Kahless is from The Hunger Games!
I just finished watching Trapped, which is what prompted the above comment. It was ... fine? Good, I guess?
"Perfectly satisfactory police procedural in the vein of The Killing or The Bridge" is the review I'd probably go with. Plus, Icelandic is fun to listen to.
I just felt very spoiled by Fortitude:
Which is why Season 2 was less successful for me, because so many characters were held over from season one that some of the layers of mystery had been lost. And the show didn't really try and rebuild them - if someone was in a conflict with a character we already liked and trusted, they were probably a scumbag*. It substituted mysticism for mystery, which was ... less interesting. Still really good, and utterly disturbing, but not quite up there.
There were a bunch of other ways in which Fortitude just went above and beyond - the cinematography was superb, and it managed to give out a sense of cold in an incredibly visceral way. Which is impressive for a show where a bunch of people always seem to be wandering around barefoot.
*you could argue this point with Dan, I guess, but the way he came back was, I think, presented from the start as being somewhere outside human motivation, so it again didn't have the same ambiguity as season one.
Schur + "centers around an unlicensed bar that a woman runs out of her backyard" = my full and undivided attention.
Oh my gosh yes, this was driving me insane
It felt like it was only the two main guys though. The other Klingons seemed to speak their lines like actual people.
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Maybe they are just experts at performing Shakespeare in the original Klingon.
I don't think I'm going to see it again
THE LAST TIME WE HUNG OUT
I JUST KEPT LOOKING DOWN
I ST-ST-STUTTERED WHEN YOU ASKED ME WHAT I'M THINKIN' BOUT
That show holds up so well it's kind of amazing.
I actually tried to start watching it a few months ago and couldn't. Sam isn't funny anymore, he's just creepy.
And the other students answered with stuff like The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones.
I happily answered, "Cheers!"
I was in the midst of asking why the fuck would you want to live in Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, of why being suddenly and violently offed would be an appealing fantasy
And then I was like, "Oh, right, 2017."
I seem to be fuzzy on something from last season
Was that just a tip off that that was a dream?
I remember she recovered from getting hit by a bus and then I think she dated a Boyle?
And yeah, Tim Meadows was amazing in this episode
Just waiting for Jeffery Dean Morgan to knock on my door and beat my fucking brains out with a club
The other adult in the room answered, "The Gilmore Girls."
So don't worry, middle schoolers just have no sense of easy comfort.
can you IMAGINE how good my hair would be
does porn count as a show
that sounds exhausting
what if I really did just want to order a pizza