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    ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Invite sent, aem.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »

    Yeah, but you didn't mention any instrumental skills.

    Hippie said I am learning bass. And it's true. Once finals are over I'll even be taking lessons, honest.

    Great, now I just need a guitarist.

    Or maybe a good bassist, since it's possible you suck. :P

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Saburbia wrote: »
    Hmm... will I find great and wonderous things?

    You will find a glorious idol, untouched by humanity for centuries.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    So who owns the fish in international waters?

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
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    Elki wrote: »
    Here's the logic behind animal cruelty legislation:

    "Puppy!"

    "Kitty!"


    I don't think I'm exaggerating.

    Depends on whether you attribute worth to animal suffering. I don't. But on the other hand I think it helps to curb sociopathic behavior.

    There's no such thing as curbing sociopathic behaviour.

    That's a pretty bold claim, isn't it?

    Not if you have any grasp of sociopathy.

    hm...do I really want to go into this...
    hm....an argument with church.

    hm...

    hm. hm. hm.

    I'll have to think on this.

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited December 2007
    Elki wrote: »
    suilimeA wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    Here's the logic behind animal cruelty legislation:

    "Puppy!"

    "Kitty!"


    I don't think I'm exaggerating.

    Well, animal cruelty is a pretty good indicator of violent behavior towards humans, if nothing else, and seems to speak to a general lack of empathy, which seems like something that ought to be discouraged.
    By itself, no, I don't think indicates that.

    Statistics disagree, as do almost all psychologists.
    I'm pointing out the fact this legislation is designed to protect some cute furries, and if it protects something that isn't then it's entirely coincidental.

    For examples 1 through 87630894 I point to the meat industry.

    I agree here -- I think most vegetarians, vegans, etc, in the developed world do what they do because they’ve seen way too many fucking anthropomorphized animals in cartoons and books and shit.

    Some do it for religion, but that’s less prevelent in the West.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »

    Yeah, but you didn't mention any instrumental skills.

    Hippie said I am learning bass. And it's true. Once finals are over I'll even be taking lessons, honest.

    Great, now I just need a guitarist.

    Or maybe a good bassist, since it's possible you suck. :P

    :P A guitarist won't be hard to find. And, I do suck, as of right now. But I'm dedicated.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    Animals are property.

    So are minors.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    Here's the logic behind animal cruelty legislation:

    "Puppy!"

    "Kitty!"


    I don't think I'm exaggerating.

    Depends on whether you attribute worth to animal suffering.

    I do, actually. I just don't think people care about animals' suffering as much as they say they do. Just the cute ones. Some animals probably suffered for the meat you're eating just as much as Vick's dogs. Some more. Are you outraged? Gonna stop eating meat? Then why does everyone act like they're so much better than the guy?

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    gundam470gundam470 Drunk Gorilla CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    You can say the same thing about children.

    edit: beat'd by incenj.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    Here's the logic behind animal cruelty legislation:

    "Puppy!"

    "Kitty!"


    I don't think I'm exaggerating.

    Depends on whether you attribute worth to animal suffering. I don't. But on the other hand I think it helps to curb sociopathic behavior.

    There's no such thing as curbing sociopathic behaviour.

    That's a pretty bold claim, isn't it?

    Not if you have any grasp of sociopathy.

    Sociopaths are not all identical.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Saburbia wrote: »
    Hmm... will I find great and wonderous things?

    You will find a glorious idol, untouched by humanity for centuries.

    Sounds like it could get messy.

    Visible, I have a guitar and can also play keyboard, but I am all the way up here in canada. :(

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »

    Yeah, but you didn't mention any instrumental skills.

    Hippie said I am learning bass. And it's true. Once finals are over I'll even be taking lessons, honest.

    Great, now I just need a guitarist.

    Or maybe a good bassist, since it's possible you suck. :P

    Are you seriously a drummer? I haven't found a competent drummer in this state since I was in high school, and that fucker move to Montreal or some other fucked Canadian place.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    See, I don't actually have an objective argument against this point of view, but it doesn't matter, because animal cruelty laws aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so I can still call the cops on you if you treat a pet like shit.

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited December 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Invite sent, aem.

    Awesome.


    By the way, I am totally down with people who don’t eat meat for health and environmental reasons, though.

    Vegetarianism is way more environmentally friendly.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Inquisitor wrote: »

    Yeah, but you didn't mention any instrumental skills.

    Hippie said I am learning bass. And it's true. Once finals are over I'll even be taking lessons, honest.

    Great, now I just need a guitarist.

    Or maybe a good bassist, since it's possible you suck. :P

    Are you seriously a drummer? I haven't found a competent drummer in this state since I was in high school, and that fucker move to Montreal or some other fucked Canadian place.

    Oh fuck, I forgot about the drummer, how could I forget the fucking drummer?

    No, I'm a singer/songwriter/pianist.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    Dude, torturing a livivng thing should be illegal. If you kill the cat to eat it, I don't care. If you buy the cat to torture and be fucked up with, I hope you die.

    You really don't care that it is alive?

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elki wrote: »
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    Here's the logic behind animal cruelty legislation:

    "Puppy!"

    "Kitty!"


    I don't think I'm exaggerating.

    Depends on whether you attribute worth to animal suffering.

    I do, actually. I just don't think people care about animals' suffering as much as they say they do. Just the cute ones. Some animals probably suffered for the meat you're eating just as much as Vick's dogs. Some more. Are you outraged? Gonna stop eating meat? Then why does everyone act like they're so much better than the guy?

    Maybe it's because its easier to stop guy who just want to hurt animals then the whole meat industry.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elki wrote: »
    I do, actually. I just don't think people care about animals' suffering as much as they say they do. Just the cute ones. Some animals probably suffered for the meat you're eating just as much as Vick's dogs. Some more. Are you outraged? Gonna stop eating meat? Then why does everyone act like they're so much better than the guy?

    Are you, like, new to this topic area?

    Many people are pretty big on humane predation.

    There's a big difference between kicking the shit out of an animal and killing it swiftly for consumption.

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    IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    celery77 wrote: »
    Alice in Chains could work, but I'd need to find the right song and I'm not really familiar with them. Suggestions?
    Something off Dirt, like maybe Them Bones? Or maybe Heaven Besides You?

    Heaven Beside You it is. Thanks!

    That sounds much too much like Heart Shaped Box.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Damned cows, fartin' up our atmosphere.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    Dude, torturing a livivng thing should be illegal. If you kill the cat to eat it, I don't care. If you buy the cat to torture and be fucked up with, I hope you die.

    You really don't care that it is alive?

    Dude, you are talking to Church.

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    ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    See, I don't actually have an objective argument against this point of view, but it doesn't matter, because animal cruelty laws aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so I can still call the cops on you if you treat a pet like shit.

    I won't, but I should have every right to. There's really no reason I would, but it's just an animal. There are better things to concern yourself with. For instance, the welfare of people.

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited December 2007
    Well [chat] is getting all serious and boring and shit so I’m going to go play some CoD or something and maybe eat some food. Food with animal parts in it.

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    suilimeA wrote: »
    Vegetarianism is way more environmentally friendly.

    What about cow farts

    I am trying to end the threat posed by cow farts

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    By the way, we can't do any gigs till I build a daft punk helmet.

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    The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hop Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Elki wrote: »
    I do, actually. I just don't think people care about animals' suffering as much as they say they do. Just the cute ones. Some animals probably suffered for the meat you're eating just as much as Vick's dogs. Some more. Are you outraged? Gonna stop eating meat? Then why does everyone act like they're so much better than the guy?
    And when is Colonel Sanders going to finally get his life sentence?

    I mean I consider jail a place for members of society too dangerous to be allowed to intermingle with the rest of us, not a guy with no priors to speak of who financed illegal gambling that is prevalent in all kinds of lower income neighborhoods, but got roped up for it himself because he's actually a celebrity. It's crap.

    I can even understand some jail time, but a month short of two years? So Vick doesn't harm who again?

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    TF2 time

    bai [chat]

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    ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    Dude, torturing a livivng thing should be illegal. If you kill the cat to eat it, I don't care. If you buy the cat to torture and be fucked up with, I hope you die.

    You really don't care that it is alive?

    It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Oh fuck, I forgot about the drummer, how could I forget the fucking drummer?

    No, I'm a singer/songwriter/pianist.

    Inspirations/style/experience?

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I am simultaneously of the opinion that seeing animals as a "lower" form of life is a human quirk similar to racism, and that eating meat is delicious

    I violate my own intellectualized morality and I don't care because mmm steak

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    See ya, Aem.

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    gundam470 wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    No, you're right. They're just animals, I don't see why people bitch so much over it. If I buy an animal I should be able to treat it however I deem fit.
    I hope you're joking.

    Animals are property.

    See, I don't actually have an objective argument against this point of view, but it doesn't matter, because animal cruelty laws aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so I can still call the cops on you if you treat a pet like shit.

    I won't, but I should have every right to. There's really no reason I would, but it's just an animal. There are better things to concern yourself with. For instance, the welfare of people.

    Why exactly should you have every right to do whatever you want to an animal? Just because you can? I hope a bear eats you in the woods, not because it's hungry, but because it can.

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    suilimeA wrote: »
    Well [chat] is getting all serious and boring and shit so I’m going to go play some CoD or something and maybe eat some food. Food with animal parts in it.

    Aem you and I should totally play on our xflop together some time. What's your tag?

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    The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hop Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Heaven Beside You it is. Thanks!

    That sounds much too much like Heart Shaped Box.
    I gather you're not a music major.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Saburbia wrote: »
    Dude, you are talking to Ege Jr.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    celery77 wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    I'm pointing out the fact this legislation is designed to protect some cute furries, and if it protects something that isn't then it's entirely coincidental.

    For examples 1 through 87630894 I point to the meat industry.
    And for #87630895 onward we can point to game hunting.

    And hunting resorts. Those things are nothing more than execution pens, at the moment. But oh noes, Vick shot dogs. What an awful man he is. Not like some rich executive lining up a deer that's been bred just so he could shoot it in his sight.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?

    Oh... wow.

    That's uh... that's really fucked up. I don't say this often, but you need to see somebody.

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    gundam470gundam470 Drunk Gorilla CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Church wrote: »
    It's an animal. It's no different than fucking with a character in a video game. It isn't a person. Why should I care?
    Alright well that there is a real fucking stupid ass argument.

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