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[Hesher] Out of the Cellar

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    AtaxrxesAtaxrxes Hellnation Cursed EarthRegistered User regular
    autothrall wrote: »
    Love those first five Ozzy solo records. So much charm to them, and I'll even go against the grain and state that No Rest for the Wicked is my fave, I just dig every single song on that thing. But that doesn't take away from the first four, so much nostalgia for those throughout elementary school and beyond. I just find the first four have a few filler tunes apiece.
    I LOVE No Rest for the Wicked. Just a solid album. That was the first time I went to see Ozzy live and there were a couple notable things about that show, besides the fact that I think maybe it was second or third real rock concert. The first thing was that Anthrax were supposed to be supporting but by the time the tour reached the west coast they had to bail for some reason. I was bummed because I really loved Anthrax at the time. We got Winger instead. So yes, I can say that I saw Winger in concert. The second was that it was Zakk's first tour and album with Ozzy and he paid GREAT homage to Randy, nailing his solos note for note and even wearing these leather pants that were very reminiscent of the shit that Rhoads would wear on stage. I could sort of just pretend it was actually Randy on stage. Except for when he did his guitar solo, then he was all douchey rock star guy but whatever haha.

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    I listened to Blizzard of Ozz for the first time in ages last week. There are some wiiiiillld leads on that album.

    I also love Wylde’s performances on No Rest and No More Tears

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    No More Tears was my first Ozzy album. Despite a few cheesy songs, I really liked it. After that I picked up the live Tribute album, and that was the extent of my solo Ozzy collection for a few years.

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    I listened to Blizzard of Ozz for the first time in ages last week. There are some wiiiiillld leads on that album.

    Yeah, Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley get all the fanfare, but some of the ideas and phrases in I Don't Know and Suicide Solution are just as good, if not more interesting because of the fairly straight blues/pentatonic skeleton of the songs and Randy was just throwing shit in that was borderline jawdropping.

    And lots of people tend to forget that on Blizzard Randy was doing the classical motif thing a full 3 years before Yngwie came across the pond and was the only prominent example of that blending of tools outside of a couple of 70's Scorpions tracks (Sails of Charon being the big one) and some of Blackmore's Deep Purple and Rainbow work.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    The Ultimate Sin is still my favorite Ozzy album. So many of those songs send a chill down my spine.

    My color is black to the blind
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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    I should give The Ultimate Sin a proper listen.

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    autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    No More Tears is definitely a decent album, even Ozzmosis has a couple good moments...as for the ones after that...well......
    Ataxrxes wrote: »
    The second was that it was Zakk's first tour and album with Ozzy and he paid GREAT homage to Randy, nailing his solos note for note and even wearing these leather pants that were very reminiscent of the shit that Rhoads would wear on stage.

    I'd also argue that No Rest for the Wicked is still the best album Zakk has ever done, by an order of magnitude!!!

    autothrall on
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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    The Ultimate Sin has also reminded me that, for all the plaudits Randy and Zakk get (with good reason), Jake E. Lee was a hell of a guitarist too.

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    The Ultimate Sin has also reminded me that, for all the plaudits Randy and Zakk get (with good reason), Jake E. Lee was a hell of a guitarist too.

    Trying to learn stuff from the 2 Jake E. Lee records by ear gave me a whole new respect for utilizing open strings when coming up with lead lines and adding color to bridge sections.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    The Ultimate Sin has also reminded me that, for all the plaudits Randy and Zakk get (with good reason), Jake E. Lee was a hell of a guitarist too.

    Trying to learn stuff from the 2 Jake E. Lee records by ear gave me a whole new respect for utilizing open strings when coming up with lead lines and adding color to bridge sections.

    That's a super honky-tonk technique (also done a lot on pedal steel), but it can really break up a lead line and give some dynamics.

    Instead of a lot of 80's metal leads which were jerking off to the pentatonic.

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    DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    New Between the Buried and Me:

    https://youtu.be/Tq8u0uDK61E

    It's great! Excited for the rest of this record, I wonder if touring Colours put them back into that heavier mindset, because this is a pretty heavy tune.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Looks like it's Kreator's turn with the Noise reissues. They're reissuing four albums: Cause for Conflict, Coma of Souls, Outcast, and Renewal.

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    FearmeisterFearmeister Registered User regular
    Well, it's their second turn. They already reissued the first 4. Already ordered Coma of Souls and Renewal. :biggrin:

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Right! I forgot about the first set.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I was going to order Coma of Souls and Renewal from there, but with shipping it comes out to a little more than $18.50 per CD, which is a bit higher than I want to spend. Maybe I'd be better off waiting for Amazon to get them in stock. I see that Pleasure to Kill, which was available during the last round of Kreator reissues, is on Amazon for $9.99 now.

    edit: and "whoops," I just ordered Pleasure to Kill and Terrible Certainty off Amazon.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    New Between the Buried and Me:

    https://youtu.be/Tq8u0uDK61E

    It's great! Excited for the rest of this record, I wonder if touring Colours put them back into that heavier mindset, because this is a pretty heavy tune.

    Hot damn yes!

    These guys kinda dropped off my radar after Alaska and Colors but this sounds great.

    jungleroomx on
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    EthelTheFrogEthelTheFrog Registered User regular
    Looks like Primordial's got a new album coming out soon. I haven't listened to these guys in a while, but I remember enjoying some of their earlier material.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qzzOYMng0k

    All these folks trying to be the Hiroo Onoda of the Loudness War...
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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Looks like Primordial's got a new album coming out soon. I haven't listened to these guys in a while, but I remember enjoying some of their earlier material.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qzzOYMng0k

    I saw them many years ago at a festival in Germany, but walked away a few minutes in. For whatever reason, they didn't connect with me. A friend of mine that was also there told me the singer seemed drunk out of his mind.

    Anyway, a few years ago I heard "Empire Falls" off To the Nameless Dead and was pretty impressed and now I have 8 of their albums...which I downloaded for free via a public library's music download service, but still, I felt they were worth my time.

    This song is a bit of a slow starter, but I liked it.

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    autothrall wrote: »
    Dvne Asheran (looking for your next progressive sludge gods? Here you are. YOU ARE WELCOME.)

    Just stumbled across Dvne on Bandcamp. This is excellent stuff :D

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Not too relevant to this thread, but a friend of ours invited us out to see a Led Zeppelin tribute band tonight. Much to our surprise, there was an opening band. And after them, three more opening bands. I don't think I've heard so much bad rock 'n roll in my life. We were also surprised at the poor sound quality. This was way louder than any metal show I've been to. The sound was pretty distorted and it just made the whole thing unpleasant, even with earplugs. We left in the middle of the headliner, who seemed to be playing their songs well, but wasn't enjoyable due to the aforementioned sound factor.

    Next real show I might go to is Kreator in a few weeks.

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    autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Been enjoying this one, very airy but dark German black metal with some choirs, folksier touches here or there. Band is called Verheerer, and the full-length is called Maltrér.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-20FP4T_XA

    autothrall on
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    FearmeisterFearmeister Registered User regular
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    KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Ah, they went back to Anders after getting rid of Tobias. Sounds good.

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    Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    Slayer are officially calling it a day. After this last big tour, it's over!

    My color is black to the blind
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    KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Slayer are officially calling it a day. After this last big tour, it's over!

    It is a little sad they are hanging it up, but they haven't released even a decent album since Christ Illusion, plus Tom's voice is shot to hell

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Listening to that, especially the vocal delivery just made me think of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtXlBbWeB4

    No matter where you go...there you are.
    ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

    As soon as I heard "Throw your middle fingers in the air" my brain went immediately to that 1 2 Fuck You band.

    https://youtu.be/D58wvyalJls

    jungleroomx on
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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

    As soon as I heard "Throw your middle fingers in the air" my brain went immediately to that 1 2 Fuck You band.

    https://youtu.be/D58wvyalJls

    When I heard that clapping intro, I knew I was in for shit.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

    As soon as I heard "Throw your middle fingers in the air" my brain went immediately to that 1 2 Fuck You band.

    https://youtu.be/D58wvyalJls

    When I heard that clapping intro, I knew I was in for shit.

    He joins the small, elite group of metal singers who don't give a fuck with their middle fingers aloft in the aether.

    You might even say he threw his hands in the air like he was, indeed, a true player.

    jungleroomx on
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    Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

    As soon as I heard "Throw your middle fingers in the air" my brain went immediately to that 1 2 Fuck You band.

    https://youtu.be/D58wvyalJls

    This kind of stuff fascinates me because it confuses me on what makes it bad.

    Okay, hear me out.

    Even without the singer, it would classify as bad, and I can't quite put my finger on why. The riffs, while not good by any stretch of the imagination, are passable for what they are. Their playing is passable, I've certainly seen worse. Is it because I am watching them play and they look amateurish? Is it what the drummer is playing in relation to the song? That seems to be the weak link to me (again, discounting the singer entirely). If you replace him with someone like Brann Dailor or Gene Hoglan would it sound better? If you had a great band play that song without changing it too drastically, could they make it sound decent? Is there something intrinsic in the way you play something that makes it sound good or bad, the attitude or aggressiveness you use in your playing? Is it their total lack of feeling?

    This is just stuff I sometimes think about. :P

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Hmm, sounds like the new Machine Head is going for more of a Supercharger vibe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmqMvT9E4ME

    Oh my

    That's... unfortunate

    Yeah... I can't make it past those lyrics.

    As soon as I heard "Throw your middle fingers in the air" my brain went immediately to that 1 2 Fuck You band.

    https://youtu.be/D58wvyalJls

    This kind of stuff fascinates me because it confuses me on what makes it bad.

    Okay, hear me out.

    Even without the singer, it would classify as bad, and I can't quite put my finger on why. The riffs, while not good by any stretch of the imagination, are passable for what they are. Their playing is passable, I've certainly seen worse. Is it because I am watching them play and they look amateurish? Is it what the drummer is playing in relation to the song? That seems to be the weak link to me (again, discounting the singer entirely). If you replace him with someone like Brann Dailor or Gene Hoglan would it sound better? If you had a great band play that song without changing it too drastically, could they make it sound decent? Is there something intrinsic in the way you play something that makes it sound good or bad, the attitude or aggressiveness you use in your playing? Is it their total lack of feeling?

    This is just stuff I sometimes think about. :P

    The drummer is pretty awful yes. He's accentuating every single beat with both hihats and snare/bass drum portions. It's staccato and amateurish, stiff, and untuneful.

    The guitarst/bassist aren't good either. Their notes are stuttered and sound a bit off-time, like they don't begin when they should.

    It doesn't help it's the most overused riff structure, the I V IV key chord thing, played terribly.

    jungleroomx on
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    autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    I'm sure to many of us, Slayer had been dead for a long time already, just touring off past glories. But a small part of me held out a fraction of hope that they'd one day release an excellent album again. Alas, it's not like I can complain that much, the 1983-1990 Slayer era will be in rotation for me until the day I feed the worms.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    I guess that means that big tour is happening then! Metal Injection posted this image:
    Slayer-final-tour-lamb-of-god-anthrax-testament-behemoth.jpg?w=705

    Since I've never seen Slayer live, it seems like I must see this tour. I'd also be going for Testament and Anthrax though, because I've never seen them live.

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    I might hit that up if it comes nearby

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    I never really got into Slayer - never got much into thrash altogether, to be fair - but there's simply no knocking those older records. There's a reason they're a legendary band. I saw them years ago when they were supporting Iron Maiden and I'm glad I did; definitely a band I'm glad to have checked off my bucket list, so to speak. I wish them well.

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Rush have also called it a day. Not really a surprise; they already said they weren't doing any more big tours after the R40 tour, and a couple of years further down the line now, they have no further plans. Neil's health probably precludes that anyway. But apparently Geddy and Alex have recorded some stuff for a new project, so with any luck that'll surface before long. Geddy's one foray into a solo album some years ago with My Favorite Headache was pretty good, so I'll look forward to that.

    I'm glad I got to see Rush a couple of times, and they were stellar both times - they really were a quite staggering live band - but I'm kicking myself for not having been able to make it to what ended up being their final UK tour back in 2013.

    Thanks for all the awesome, Canada's finest!

    Jazz on
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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Not going to lie, I thought Rush had already broken up. But I guess I'm just remembering news of their final tour.

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