I'm not sure where this weird desire for crossover in Voyager comes from, Tom Paris was supposed to be Locarno from the academy shuttle crash episode of TNG, even though they did manage to get the same actor back in that case they changed their minds anyway. Something about Locarnos character being too irredeemable.
Easier for them to use those leftover TNG season 7 scripts. Don’t even have to find-replace on those that way.
LMK when I can watch it in the US without passing through CBS's paygate
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i haven't looked yet but my plan was using a cbs free trial to binge it once the season wrapped up, which it has
but i was also just kind of assuming that would work
Yeah, my "I'll just get the free trial and watch it one week," idea was semi-derailed by the discovery that Deep Space Nine gets dramatically better overall in its second season.
My father is now watching it in semi-parallel and believes first season Bashir should be thrown into a lake and drowned, per a communique I received yesterday.
I will pencil that in for when I'm done with TNG and DS9
soo....maybe this fall...
I mean, I'd Watch Voy before bothering with Disco if you're gonna do a full star trek watch. Voyager is shit compared to TNG and DS9 but there are still a ton of good episodes and if you like average TNG it's just a ton more of that.
Have a non US'ian friend give you an access code to their Netflix account. Boom Disco goodness.*
*I have no idea if that would work or not
It does not. Netflix is region-locked, not account-locked. You can use your Netflix ID anywhere and the content you see will be based on where you are connecting from.
Was Ro supposed to take Kiras role or something? If so thank god she turned it down, Nana Visitor is ten times the actress.
Michelle Forbes is a super good actress, wtf!
And Nana Visitor is ten times better!
somebody didn't watch BSG....
I actually haven't so I'm judging her solely on the merits of her performance as Ensign Ro. Which isn't to say she's bad, by TNG standards she's absolutely top 25%, but Visitor made some of my favourite episodes of star trek ever.
I always wondered what would happen if someone loaded up a holodeck with a simulated engineering crew and told them to solve problem X. It's weird that in the Trek future the Turing test means exactly dick. It's also kind of creepy that Voyager's Doctor eventually got granted something like personhood rights since he'd been active so long and had outgrown his original programming, while every other holodeck personality out there gets turned on and off and reset back to their baseline without anyone worrying that they're killing a nascent sentience. Never mind the two Moriarty episodes where the Enterprise's computer just up and creates a full on AI because someone asked it to, and the crew then imprisoned in an artificial universe and never talked about it again. Or the time the Enterprise had a baby...
TNG Trek was weird as fuck on the subject of AI.
AI research is currently focused on giving a system a set of guidelines
Anyway back to Picard and Wesley facing certain death on a desert planet
On and some other guy who'll surely die shortly
B plot: whytf are they towing this junk ship?? You're in a vacuum just push it away from you in the direction you want it to go
I am going to assume because it is Star Trek, and thus tragedies have a quantum property where if they're observed by a cast member, they can be averted.
There's also the sorta-concern that someone will steal it if they just let it drift.
I can't remember when it was, but there was a TNG where they met a time traveller and Picard got stuck on the wrong side of the Prime Directive.
I really liked that one, because usually it's other people asking him to avert a catastrophe, and he's all 'The Prime Directive says we have to let you all die', and he's so devoted to the idea like it's the moral high ground.
It's nice to see him asking someone else for something he's not supposed to have. I just wish he'd learned a lesson from it, but the ending kind of ruined that.
Is that the one that was supposed to feature Robin Williams as the time traveller* but he couldn't do it because he was shooting Hook? Robin Williams would have been great there.
I can't remember when it was, but there was a TNG where they met a time traveller and Picard got stuck on the wrong side of the Prime Directive.
I really liked that one, because usually it's other people asking him to avert a catastrophe, and he's all 'The Prime Directive says we have to let you all die', and he's so devoted to the idea like it's the moral high ground.
It's nice to see him asking someone else for something he's not supposed to have. I just wish he'd learned a lesson from it, but the ending kind of ruined that.
yeah but it turned out that max headroom was just there to steal everyone's wallets.
Best of Both Worlds is fucking great, so many subtle things like Picard stoically staring as probes drill in to his head and a single tear rolls down his cheek.
I thought it was more to do with not wanting to pay the writer of that original episode a character residual?
That may well be the real world reason but the publicized version is that they felt Locarno having been embroiled in an accidental homicide conspiracy was too "unstarfleet" to be redeemed in voyager.
I think in this case it would have been much cooler if they had stuck with that character, especially since they went with the same actor anyway.
Yeah they've said that as the "official" reason, but Paris' origin is so minutely different from Locarno's that the distinction is purely in the realm of pedantry. They 100% simply didn't want to pay royalties.
Robert Picard: You and your wretched technology Jean Luc, it's destroying our culture and our way of life and i'll let one of those damnable fire extinguishers in to my house over my dead body!
LMK when I can watch it in the US without passing through CBS's paygate
Grumble
i haven't looked yet but my plan was using a cbs free trial to binge it once the season wrapped up, which it has
but i was also just kind of assuming that would work
Yeah, my "I'll just get the free trial and watch it one week," idea was semi-derailed by the discovery that Deep Space Nine gets dramatically better overall in its second season.
My father is now watching it in semi-parallel and believes first season Bashir should be thrown into a lake and drowned, per a communique I received yesterday.
I remember how in the first episode, Bashir has this whole spiel about how he loves to do frontier medicine out here in the wilderness and Kira immediately hacks him off at the knees, leaving him stammering and floundering.
Can't remember if Bashir got dunked on a bunch of other times in season 1. It probably would've helped.
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Easier for them to use those leftover TNG season 7 scripts. Don’t even have to find-replace on those that way.
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i haven't looked yet but my plan was using a cbs free trial to binge it once the season wrapped up, which it has
but i was also just kind of assuming that would work
*I have no idea if that would work or not
Yeah, my "I'll just get the free trial and watch it one week," idea was semi-derailed by the discovery that Deep Space Nine gets dramatically better overall in its second season.
My father is now watching it in semi-parallel and believes first season Bashir should be thrown into a lake and drowned, per a communique I received yesterday.
I will pencil that in for when I'm done with TNG and DS9
soo....maybe this fall...
somebody didn't watch BSG....
I mean, I'd Watch Voy before bothering with Disco if you're gonna do a full star trek watch. Voyager is shit compared to TNG and DS9 but there are still a ton of good episodes and if you like average TNG it's just a ton more of that.
It does not. Netflix is region-locked, not account-locked. You can use your Netflix ID anywhere and the content you see will be based on where you are connecting from.
Riker is salt n peppa now and it looks great
Picard's goatee is awful
Crusher hasn't aged a day of course
Data looks rull weird in a red uniform
Lol Riker named his kid Jean Luc man come on
I actually haven't so I'm judging her solely on the merits of her performance as Ensign Ro. Which isn't to say she's bad, by TNG standards she's absolutely top 25%, but Visitor made some of my favourite episodes of star trek ever.
I kept thinking that was some weird alien's name.
AI research is currently focused on giving a system a set of guidelines
But no mention of a towel anywhere. 0/10
That one in particular stretches credibility, it's true.
Now, Luke Riker, I could see.
Life is life, nana visitor.
That's a pretty bad one though.
they eat through their butts
Just...god why
On and some other guy who'll surely die shortly
B plot: whytf are they towing this junk ship?? You're in a vacuum just push it away from you in the direction you want it to go
I am going to assume because it is Star Trek, and thus tragedies have a quantum property where if they're observed by a cast member, they can be averted.
There's also the sorta-concern that someone will steal it if they just let it drift.
she's calling off her wedding and making Data deliver the news???
yikes
It's nice to see him asking someone else for something he's not supposed to have. I just wish he'd learned a lesson from it, but the ending kind of ruined that.
That's a rumor. To be fair, it's a rumor I find plausible, but it's never been solidly proven.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
yeah but it turned out that max headroom was just there to steal everyone's wallets.
I found Keiko to be insufferable when I was ten and that opinion hasn't changed today.
Yeah they've said that as the "official" reason, but Paris' origin is so minutely different from Locarno's that the distinction is purely in the realm of pedantry. They 100% simply didn't want to pay royalties.
i bet two minutes with them and he was already pining for the cold vacuum of space.
I bet three minutes with them and they were pining to have their insides back on the inside again.
I remember how in the first episode, Bashir has this whole spiel about how he loves to do frontier medicine out here in the wilderness and Kira immediately hacks him off at the knees, leaving him stammering and floundering.
Can't remember if Bashir got dunked on a bunch of other times in season 1. It probably would've helped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN6mp5hVSSc
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