most people would be running around cyborging it up. She had 1 new arm and hated the idea until she got it then loved it. Now imagine all the people who didn't have the hang up.
I think it probably works a bit like eclipsephase. Synthetic bodies are seen as cheap/low end and they also don't feel right when you are in them. The sensation of touch is less and your other senses are worse/different enough to be uncomfortable. They talked about doing multiple sleeving could cause psychosis and a lot of that was basically your body image can only handle so much before the mind starts rebelling. In a purely artificial body that probably becomes more pronounced.
The girl who was using one at the end of altered carbon liked it because it did not feel real to her and that was what she wanted that level of distance between mind and body.
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Re-watching the last episode, there's one thing that still confuses me/I'm curious about:
How did Quellcrist Falconer change the physical form/appearance of the sleeve she ended up being uploaded into on the floating Brothel?
After Poe uploaded her to the 'internet' (I forget what Poe called it)?
Is it some form of cybernetics, genetic engineering or both? Like an android sleeve that can project some kind of hologram around itself?
I suspect you mean a different character
Quellcrist Falconer is only seen in flashbacks, she’s the rebel leader who taught Kovacs how to be an Envoy. She is believed to be dead, although Reilynn claims to have uploaded her before the shuttle exploded.
Lizzie is the one who is loaded into what they call a “synth” sleeve. IIRC show doesn’t really go into how synthetic sleeves work, but apparently their appearance can be changed somehow.. Also, Lizzie is basically a literal internet sorceress now, there’s a bunch of stuff she can just do and we have to go with it.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Finished this show yesterday. I definitely liked it. I'm a sucker for anything cyberpunk, and am Catholic so I really liked the Neo-C subplot. It was a bit rushed and cluttered in places, but compared to some other Netflix originals like Bright, which was amazing for the first half then.... Anyway, I felt the main weakness was
As much as I loved Rei as villain, I got tired of her obsession with Tak and threats to his companions.
Anyway, good stuff, looking forward to more, etc.
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Question about the Ghostwalker:
I don't remember what the reasoning was for his ability to hide from cameras. Something involving Reileen, I imagine.[/spoilers]
I don't recall it being explained at all. But I may be forgetting something.
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IIRC (which I very well might not be) it was some kind of mesh network malware/virus and/or algorithm which was able to covertly hop from camera to camera.
I finished this a while ago but also missed that we had a thread woops
Put me in the "this show is a hot mess with a few cool bits" camp
Kovacs is kind of a one-note dickweed for a lot of the show, beyond a few good moments. He gets better later on in the season but it still feels inconsistent? This is true for a lot of characters really
Hearing that the "yandere sister" thing is new to the show is actually kinda odd, and it's definitely not a good move on the writing team's part
Ex-Space marine dad and Poe are my two favorite supporting characters. Ortega is probably the main character with the best (or at least most consistent) arc
tl;dr - this show is one of the most inconsistent things I've seen in a long time, and that's only not outright The Most because we're in a year that also had PacRim: Uprising happen
edit: I should note that I'll probably watch a second season of this, but god damn if I don't reserve the right to be even more of a hardass about it
Yup its one of the settings that keeping the main character as the same actor would be probably the wrong choice. Being brave enough to actually follow the logic of the setting to explore this stuff is the best way to handle this kind of show if you are going to do it do it all the way.
I haven't read the books, but from some cursory wiki it seems like there are three in this universe? In terms of content/material covered how close to book 1 was season 1?
I haven't read the books, but from some cursory wiki it seems like there are three in this universe? In terms of content/material covered how close to book 1 was season 1?
All of it.
edit: misread. As in, season 1 = entire first book. Fairly close in overall plot, though a ton of new stuff, and some large changes.
I haven't read the books, but from some cursory wiki it seems like there are three in this universe? In terms of content/material covered how close to book 1 was season 1?
A planetary war, with one side being a corrupted version of Quellism used to justify some pretty heinous shit. Think Marxism being used to justify Pol Pot and you won't be far off. The other side being a blatantly corrupt corporate dictatorship using of-world mercenaries to fight them. Basically the entire system is going to shit and Tak decides to go it alone.
Includes a bunch of formerly dead mercs recruited to help him.
I suspect that a significant plot point will be to keep the spaceship out of the Kempists and corporate hands. That's not in the book, but a guess of mine.
The sky was full of stars, every star an exploding ship. One of ours.
A planetary war, with one side being a corrupted version of Quellism used to justify some pretty heinous shit. Think Marxism being used to justify Pol Pot and you won't be far off. The other side being a blatantly corrupt corporate dictatorship using of-world mercenaries to fight them. Basically the entire system is going to shit and Tak decides to go it alone.
Includes a bunch of formerly dead mercs recruited to help him.
I suspect that a significant plot point will be to keep the spaceship out of the Kempists and corporate hands. That's not in the book, but a guess of mine.
Book 2 is 100% military spec-ops stuff. It's not bad, but there's not much room for the main plot point of the stack tech and how that affects humanity. So yeah, I don't mind more noir.
Did anyone ever watch Black Sails? Kind of a convoluted hot mess in its first season, but one of the best TV series ever, even outside its period action-drama genre, by the end of its run
It could be cool if Altered Carbon pulls that for cyberpunk - just needs to ditch the baggage and find what works for the Stack-noir formula
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As said, it's just a conceit of the setting.
The girl who was using one at the end of altered carbon liked it because it did not feel real to her and that was what she wanted that level of distance between mind and body.
I suspect you mean a different character
Lizzie is the one who is loaded into what they call a “synth” sleeve. IIRC show doesn’t really go into how synthetic sleeves work, but apparently their appearance can be changed somehow.. Also, Lizzie is basically a literal internet sorceress now, there’s a bunch of stuff she can just do and we have to go with it.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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Hopefully they don’t fuck it up
Put me in the "this show is a hot mess with a few cool bits" camp
Kovacs is kind of a one-note dickweed for a lot of the show, beyond a few good moments. He gets better later on in the season but it still feels inconsistent? This is true for a lot of characters really
Hearing that the "yandere sister" thing is new to the show is actually kinda odd, and it's definitely not a good move on the writing team's part
Ex-Space marine dad and Poe are my two favorite supporting characters. Ortega is probably the main character with the best (or at least most consistent) arc
tl;dr - this show is one of the most inconsistent things I've seen in a long time, and that's only not outright The Most because we're in a year that also had PacRim: Uprising happen
edit: I should note that I'll probably watch a second season of this, but god damn if I don't reserve the right to be even more of a hardass about it
He's busy with a supporting role in the tv show, Hanna, for Amazon. If that sounds familiar, it's based on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPBcugOZPU&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/07/28/netflixs-excellent-altered-carbon-is-getting-a-season-2-but-leaving-its-cast-behind/#71cdea0f434b
they're getting Anthony Mackie in as Kovacs
I’m too excited right now. I just need another murder sequence like what happened with the rich dude’s mistress and I’m good.
if they're adapting the next book Ryker won't even be in it at all
I'm okay with that.
People don't move from planet to planet in their bodies they cast into a new one
All of it.
edit: misread. As in, season 1 = entire first book. Fairly close in overall plot, though a ton of new stuff, and some large changes.
any extra from book 2?
edit reply: got it.
Pretty much. But also:
Includes a bunch of formerly dead mercs recruited to help him.
I suspect that a significant plot point will be to keep the spaceship out of the Kempists and corporate hands. That's not in the book, but a guess of mine.
If Book 1 is a noir detective story
Book 2 is
I'm pretty okay with this. They should just stick to doing noir mysteries tbh.
It could be cool if Altered Carbon pulls that for cyberpunk - just needs to ditch the baggage and find what works for the Stack-noir formula
like getting a bunch of once-dead mercs to come back for another gig is a fantastic premise, there's a lot you can do with that
I just hope we get to see the (book 2 minor spoiler)
It’s basically Bizarro Dollhouse; rather than 1 body and several people, it’s 1 person in several bodies
I generally find exploration of how future tech intersects (or affects) our humanity fascinating, so I would rather future seasons focus in on that
I’m fine with them packaging it in as a cyber noir thing as long as that overarching theme remains constant