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Dragalia Lost: Dragon, dragon, reroll the dragon.

StericaSterica YesRegistered User, Moderator mod
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Dragalia Lost is an action RPG from Cygames (of Granblue fame/infamy) and Nintendo's fifth mobile game (sixth if we count Pokemon Go). It's about a Prince, the youngest in the royal succession, who has to form a pact with a dragon in order to save the kingdom against generic fantasy enemies, the fiends. But things quickly get more complicated than that. Gameplay is comprised of short action segments broken up with story bits: you lead four characters into battle, moving around with swipes and attacking with taps. Characters have their own skills you can use, and you can swap between characters to personally control them. The big gimmick is shapeshifting, with a meter filling up allowing anyone on your squad to shapeshift into whatever dragon you "bonded" (read: equipped) to them. You can also get a helper skill from an online player (or nobody if you choose to be antisocial) to help you out in a pinch. You can use helper skills from friends more often than randos, so work on that friends list.

The game also features co-op, which is probably a good idea since characters you AREN'T controlling in solo games have dreadfully bad AI. There's also things like raids which is basically a co-op game but everyone has their own squad of four. Sounds like a delightful clusterfuck.

If the game has a downside, it's that it's a gacha, which means one of the more abusive forms of "free-to-play" in mobile gaming. Fortunately the game does throw decent four-stars characters at you throughout the story campaign, so you should be able to do everything at a base level comfortably. Just don't stress out about min-maxing and focus on your four favorite pulls and everything should work out.

Here's a lengthy video from Nintendo about the game if you want to know more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4wz7Mb8Kqw

Hot Dragon Tips
  1. You get wyrmite for playing with new people online, so do co-op games until that dries up.
  2. There's an introductory event for launch with endeavors that award a free ten-pull, so get on it.
  3. Rerolling is for cowards.
  4. Don't forget the free item summon every day.
  5. Tap "More" on the main menu, then "Options" and then "System." Scroll to the bottom and download the whole game so you don't have to wait all the time between quests.
  6. Always tenfold summon unless there's some event that alters rates

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    When is legfest

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Hello I like this game a whole lot

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yeah I'm having a good time with this

    My friend ID is 6034 9283 935

    I'm trying to only accept requests from names I recognize at this point so if your name is wildly different from your forum name, lemme know or something

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    no canada no sale

    literally because i cannot download it

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    is it me or are force strikes overly difficult to pull off?

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    that is an extremely fucky dragon

    just sayin'

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Hello pathetic gatcha slaves.

    Here's a reddit post with supposedly the odds of getting various specific things like any 5 star character or dragon or a specific character or dragon on a ten pull, if you want to know that:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DragaliaLost/comments/9j511c/psa_if_you_want_a_specific_5_character_it_will/

    Also the first big event is going to be a 1-day raid event on this coming Monday to fight a raid boss and get a character:
    https://my.nintendo.com/news/fc92ff72fc62803c
    The Loyalty's Requiem raid event will begin on 2018/09/30 (Sunday) at 11:00PM until 2018/10/08 (Monday) at 10:59PM PT. During this event, you can use Co-op Play to fight against the flame raid boss!
    Apparently a "raid" means it's a multiplayer quest where 4 players get to all bring their full 4 member parties into the boss fight at once, so that should be chaotic. The raid boss is a fire enemy so strong water characters will be helpful.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
    is it me or are force strikes overly difficult to pull off?

    It’s a very common sentiment

    The advice I’ve heard is to do a normal attack first so it doesn’t think you’re trying to walk

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    that is an extremely fucky dragon

    just sayin'

    Which reminds me, why the heck is there no gender selection for the protagonist? Granblue had it, FGO had it. Lame.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    that is an extremely fucky dragon

    just sayin'
    Which reminds me, why the heck is there no gender selection for the protagonist? Granblue had it, FGO had it. Lame.
    You aren't required to use him, from what I've seen thus far. He won't even appear in the little main menu vignettes if you pick a different leader.

    But he still shows up in every story bit, which sucks. Seems like it would have been simple enough to pick him or his sister as the protagonist, and have the other be the Auspex.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    Maddoc I'd send you a request but your pending friend request list is full
    my code's 4989 4087 470

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Admittedly, Granblue doesn't have the main character appear in animation and they aren't generally voiced

    But there's just a straight up toggle that allows you to swap at any time between Gran and Djeeta (default names)

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    Shame that they didn't do anything similar here, so far the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Not really playing this game seriously but I did my initial rolls yesterday and they were good enough to make this an occasional thing. I guess I'll do the raid when it shows up? Still early in Chapter 2 so my characters might not be up to snuff.

    It's kind of hard to pull off the charge attacks since the game thinks I want to move. Also if I don't pay attention to my finger movements it's too easy to trigger dragon transformation or use a skill by accident. One thing I do find it funny that all the dragons in the gacha are literal dragons and then suddenly here's a giant Jeanne d'Arc "dragon". Hell of a wide attack radius she's got though.

    Oh yeah, here's my FC: 1265 4250 078

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    FC is 36649871112

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    no canada no sale

    literally because i cannot download it

    do you know when they are planning to launch it in canadia?

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Admittedly, Granblue doesn't have the main character appear in animation and they aren't generally voiced

    But there's just a straight up toggle that allows you to swap at any time between Gran and Djeeta (default names)

    gYv7RKd.jpg

    Shame that they didn't do anything similar here, so far the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead

    Well... get back to me after Ch. 3.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Admittedly, Granblue doesn't have the main character appear in animation and they aren't generally voiced

    But there's just a straight up toggle that allows you to swap at any time between Gran and Djeeta (default names)

    gYv7RKd.jpg

    Shame that they didn't do anything similar here, so far the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead

    Well... get back to me after Ch. 3.

    Having played chapter 3, the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Admittedly, Granblue doesn't have the main character appear in animation and they aren't generally voiced

    But there's just a straight up toggle that allows you to swap at any time between Gran and Djeeta (default names)

    gYv7RKd.jpg

    Shame that they didn't do anything similar here, so far the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead

    Well... get back to me after Ch. 3.

    Having played chapter 3, the story would not really change in the slightest if Euden was a girl instead.

    Sorry, to be clear - I think that stuff is why the choice isn't there.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    probably but it's still a bad reason

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    probably but it's still a bad reason

    Yeah, they could have worked around it. Some of the adventurer stories hit the same deal.

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    I'm playing this, it's pretty fun.

    Throwing all my resources at Nefaria for now; I like her design and she's fun to play. Just unlocked her third mana circle to finished her adventurer story and grab her last passive; now I just need to grind a whole lot of dark mats to upgrade everything. Unfortunately I'm not quite strong enough to unlock the dark expert trial yet; hopefully that will change after my smith finishes rebuilding and I can craft 4* weapons.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Polaritie wrote: »
    probably but it's still a bad reason

    Yeah, they could have worked around it. Some of the adventurer stories hit the same deal.
    What people are getting at is that theres no need to work around it, just have the ladies be interested in a lady protaganist like they are to the dude protaganist

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I really like some of the Greatwyrm's personalities and stories

    Mostly Zodiark
    This selfless, noble dragon that gives its power with zero qualifiers or restrictions if someone in need asks for it, but every single one of its hosts over the centuries succumbs to having massive power with no consequences and fall down a dark path for which they blame Zodiark

    Over the centuries he became widely blamed and scorned, considered evil and corrupting

    But really he just wants to help people and doesnt understand why giving people near unlimited power and no rules for using it might end poorly

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I really like some of the Greatwyrm's personalities and stories

    Mostly Zodiark
    This selfless, noble dragon that gives its power with zero qualifiers or restrictions if someone in need asks for it, but every single one of its hosts over the centuries succumbs to having massive power with no consequences and fall down a dark path for which they blame Zodiark

    Over the centuries he became widely blamed and scorned, considered evil and corrupting

    But really he just wants to help people and doesnt understand why giving people near unlimited power and no rules for using it might end poorly

    Wizards.

    No sense of right and wrong!

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    probably but it's still a bad reason

    Yeah, they could have worked around it. Some of the adventurer stories hit the same deal.
    What people are getting at is that theres no need to work around it, just have the ladies be interested in a lady protaganist like they are to the dude protaganist

    Not what I'm referring too. There's dialog at the start of ch. 4 that doesn't work then. Malora's bit doesn't work as well either, but her stuff could be changed and be a net benefit anyways.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It’s kinda weird that the game just gives you enough four star characters to make a team.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    One per element

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    can I have sec with a dragon?

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    It’s nice that the power gulf between 3 stars and my one 5 star character, the water lance dragoon guy, doesn’t seem that significant at the same levels, but I guess the real difference is that 5 stars have the higher level cap so it will be more apparent then. 3 star dragons also seem pretty wimpy though compared to 4 stars dragons.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    It’s nice that the power gulf between 3 stars and my one 5 star character, the water lance dragoon guy, doesn’t seem that significant at the same levels, but I guess the real difference is that 5 stars have the higher level cap so it will be more apparent then. 3 star dragons also seem pretty wimpy though compared to 4 stars dragons.
    Yeah if you check the stat boosts for promoting a character they actually aren't that big, only maybe a level or two's worth of stats

    It's the increased cap that becomes critical and that's not till you're hitting the current endgame level stuff

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    can I have sec with a dragon?

    shounen anime protagonists don’t know what time it is

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    It’s nice that the power gulf between 3 stars and my one 5 star character, the water lance dragoon guy, doesn’t seem that significant at the same levels, but I guess the real difference is that 5 stars have the higher level cap so it will be more apparent then. 3 star dragons also seem pretty wimpy though compared to 4 stars dragons.
    Yeah if you check the stat boosts for promoting a character they actually aren't that big, only maybe a level or two's worth of stats

    It's the increased cap that becomes critical and that's not till you're hitting the current endgame level stuff

    Also I think it affects how many tiers they can go up mana rings?

    But yeah, the game giving you 4*s of each element is really helpful for evening out bad luck. Also with how important element matchups are, it means you always have a good option for a map.

    I have a 5*. It's easier to use 4*s with element advantage most of the time.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    As strong as my 5* Fire character is, on a Water map she's a liability compared to the 4*and 3* Wind units. I wish people in co-op would realize this and stop bringing Ezelith and Makoto to the Water Element dungeon!

    Trying to get a Force Charge off is fiddly as fuck. Game either does it or makes me move around while the shielded enemy is locking on to me specifically to knock me away repeatedly.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Hello pathetic gatcha slaves.

    Here's a reddit post with supposedly the odds of getting various specific things like any 5 star character or dragon or a specific character or dragon on a ten pull, if you want to know that:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DragaliaLost/comments/9j511c/psa_if_you_want_a_specific_5_character_it_will/

    Also the first big event is going to be a 1-day raid event on this coming Monday to fight a raid boss and get a character:
    https://my.nintendo.com/news/fc92ff72fc62803c
    The Loyalty's Requiem raid event will begin on 2018/09/30 (Sunday) at 11:00PM until 2018/10/08 (Monday) at 10:59PM PT. During this event, you can use Co-op Play to fight against the flame raid boss!
    Apparently a "raid" means it's a multiplayer quest where 4 players get to all bring their full 4 member parties into the boss fight at once, so that should be chaotic. The raid boss is a fire enemy so strong water characters will be helpful.

    I’m an idiot, the raid event lasts a week. I can’t process dates that aren’t in mm/dd/yyyy format.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    no canada no sale

    literally because i cannot download it

    do you know when they are planning to launch it in canadia?

    shrug

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Lame

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    edited September 2018
    Huh, this seems kinda neat

    I like the art style, the action is simple fun, the music has a fun Persona vibe

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    The music in this is so good. Love watching my boy just bop his head down the path on the home screen

    My first two pulls landed me a five star nefaria and a 5 star ifrit so uh sure I’ll play this game for a bit

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=8WN0JnAnASY

    Bang bang bang bang love and die

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Oh that's the fucking gatcha pulling song isn't it

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