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I love that Robert Picardo is Alara's father, and it was made so much better when John Billingsley (Phlox) showed up as his neighbor.
Regarding the shuttle bay location, it makes sense to me, in that you would want it along the ship's axis of motion, and on the side with the least swing from pitch and yaw. If you are trying to land in combat, it would be much easier to do that then try to come in perpendicular or in an area that shifts more drastically as the ship maneuvers. Also, the Union might consider damaging one of the Archean preferable to slamming into a more heavily occupied area.
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Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
Docking is where there would be a problem.
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Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
That's true in the real world, with Newtonian physics, but I'm pretty sure the Orvill drive tech (and most other sci-fi, The Expanse excepted), fudge the hell out of it.
Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
And the shuttle is about the size of a Uhaul the engines are literally miles apart there's tons of room
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Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
I'm sure whatever macguffin tech keeps the crew from laminating the walls during maneuvers would keep the shuttle at zero relative motion inside the hanger. The problem is when it is outside the ship, trying to aim for the bay doors.
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion.
They have well trained pilots. I think landing on a moving ship in atmosphere with a helicopter or a jet on a carrier is way more difficult and is being done everyday. A shuttle can just match all movement to the shuttlebay and then slide in.
Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
Docking is where there would be a problem.
you'll find that computers are quite good at doing this whole Quaternion rotation calculations even without the aid of tractor beams. Hell the Russians managed to dock manually with an out of control space station sniping on two axis.
Keep in mind that when you’re in space, it’s all in the same relative frame of motion. So as far as the shuttle taking off goes, the ship is remaining perfectly still relative to the shuttle, as long as the ship isn’t accelerating.
Docking is where there would be a problem.
you'll find that computers are quite good at doing this whole Quaternion rotation calculations even without the aid of tractor beams. Hell the Russians managed to dock manually with an out of control space station sniping on two axis.
Technically, a rigid 3-dimensional object only ever has one axis of rotation. Anything that might appear like a spin on two or three (reference) axis is really just a spin around different, single axis. Even so, it's no small feat as a craft trying to dock to a tumbling ship still needs to follow a rather tricky 3-d path to do so.
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They have well trained pilots. I think landing on a moving ship in atmosphere with a helicopter or a jet on a carrier is way more difficult and is being done everyday. A shuttle can just match all movement to the shuttlebay and then slide in.
You don't try to land on a carrier while it is trying to evade an attack, and aircraft are generally less vulnerable in the air than on the deck. If the Orville has to recover a shuttle during a fight, trying to slide into the bay is going to take more time. As you say, they have well trained pilots; they shouldn't have a problem avoiding those arches. The gaps between them are much larger than the shuttle bay, and it looks like the bay opens directly towards the gap between the 2nd and 3rd arch. Another advantage is that that whole area between the arches and the main hull should be covered by the Orville's deflectors. They only have to drop the shields long enough for the shuttle to get into that space. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to have the shuttle bay where it is;
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
i know i'm probably late to the party but i think the root issue with the shuttle/engines is the engines design itself. Why is there a huge gap between the body of the ship and the engines? I think it looks goofy everytime i see it. I like the show and it keeps getting better but the Orville design compared to other races they've seen is kind of goofy.
They have well trained pilots. I think landing on a moving ship in atmosphere with a helicopter or a jet on a carrier is way more difficult and is being done everyday. A shuttle can just match all movement to the shuttlebay and then slide in.
You don't try to land on a carrier while it is trying to evade an attack, and aircraft are generally less vulnerable in the air than on the deck. If the Orville has to recover a shuttle during a fight, trying to slide into the bay is going to take more time. As you say, they have well trained pilots; they shouldn't have a problem avoiding those arches. The gaps between them are much larger than the shuttle bay, and it looks like the bay opens directly towards the gap between the 2nd and 3rd arch. Another advantage is that that whole area between the arches and the main hull should be covered by the Orville's deflectors. They only have to drop the shields long enough for the shuttle to get into that space. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to have the shuttle bay where it is;
Just to be clear, this has happened before, on this show. In the first episode. And it didn't take more time.
"Mercer to Orville, we've lost navigational control, and we're about twelve seconds away from hitting you like a bug on a windshield."
"Lieutenant, can you align the shuttle bay doors with their trajectory?"
"Sir, even if I was the best helmsman in the galaxy, that's virtually impossible."
"If you can *pause* 'hug the donkey', you can do this."
Now, granted, it was missing it's upper quantum drive at that point, but still, that's the equivalent of an aircraft carrier navigating UNDER an unresponsive aircraft.
I'm arguing relative physics minutia about a fictional sci-fi television show, on the internets, at literally 2:48am. I am such a nerd.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
They have well trained pilots. I think landing on a moving ship in atmosphere with a helicopter or a jet on a carrier is way more difficult and is being done everyday. A shuttle can just match all movement to the shuttlebay and then slide in.
You don't try to land on a carrier while it is trying to evade an attack, and aircraft are generally less vulnerable in the air than on the deck. If the Orville has to recover a shuttle during a fight, trying to slide into the bay is going to take more time. As you say, they have well trained pilots; they shouldn't have a problem avoiding those arches. The gaps between them are much larger than the shuttle bay, and it looks like the bay opens directly towards the gap between the 2nd and 3rd arch. Another advantage is that that whole area between the arches and the main hull should be covered by the Orville's deflectors. They only have to drop the shields long enough for the shuttle to get into that space. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to have the shuttle bay where it is;
Just to be clear, this has happened before, on this show. In the first episode. And it didn't take more time.
"Mercer to Orville, we've lost navigational control, and we're about twelve seconds away from hitting you like a bug on a windshield."
"Lieutenant, can you align the shuttle bay doors with their trajectory?"
"Sir, even if I was the best helmsman in the galaxy, that's virtually impossible."
"If you can *pause* 'hug the donkey', you can do this."
But they didn't slide the ship into a shuttle bay on the side of the ship; they got in front of it and matched vector/velocity, which is exactly why you'd want the bay center-aft.
Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
MacFarlane loves STTNG, it's only a matter of time.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
MacFarlane loves STTNG, it's only a matter of time.
There's no doubt in my mind Mercers Parents were supposed to be Patrick Stewart and Gates McFadden but Paramount grabbed them for the Picard show and slapped a no compete in the contracts
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episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
MacFarlane loves STTNG, it's only a matter of time.
There's no doubt in my mind Mercers Parents were supposed to be Patrick Stewart and Gates McFadden but Paramount grabbed them for the Picard show and slapped a no compete in the contracts
I was actually kinda sad on the reveal of Billingsley that they didn't cast McFadden as either Alara's mother, or the wife of Billingsley (if she wanted a smaller non-recurring role, should Sage decide to return). Mulduar would probably have been too old for either role (though she's only 11 years Gate's senior), and according to IMDB hasn't acted in a quarter century. That'd only have left needing Alexander Siddig as the property caretaker, and it would have been the perfect nerd episode casting.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
Getting super pissed because the senior staff are a bunch of slobs and they always have to clean up after them. Filing report after report about legitimate complaints (like the fact that Mercer didn't immediately stop the fucking rain on the bridge), only to lament about having them constantly fall on deaf ears. Dozens of scene transitions from "Oh you've gotta be fu-" to happy times in the mess hall.
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episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
Getting super pissed because the senior staff are a bunch of slobs and they always have to clean up after them. Filing report after report about legitimate complaints (like the fact that Mercer didn't immediately stop the fucking rain on the bridge), only to lament about having them constantly fall on deaf ears. Dozens of scene transitions from "Oh you've gotta be fu-" to happy times in the mess hall.
Read Redshirts by John Scalzi sometime. Its a fun take on a lot of Star Trek tropes.
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
Getting super pissed because the senior staff are a bunch of slobs and they always have to clean up after them. Filing report after report about legitimate complaints (like the fact that Mercer didn't immediately stop the fucking rain on the bridge), only to lament about having them constantly fall on deaf ears. Dozens of scene transitions from "Oh you've gotta be fu-" to happy times in the mess hall.
the episode ends with disgruntled ensign yelling at an eccentric stranger that he'd rather have died than live this life of mediocrity and the both of them poof out of existence never to be seen again
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
Getting super pissed because the senior staff are a bunch of slobs and they always have to clean up after them. Filing report after report about legitimate complaints (like the fact that Mercer didn't immediately stop the fucking rain on the bridge), only to lament about having them constantly fall on deaf ears. Dozens of scene transitions from "Oh you've gotta be fu-" to happy times in the mess hall.
the episode ends with disgruntled ensign yelling at an eccentric stranger that he'd rather have died than live this life of mediocrity and the both of them poof out of existence never to be seen again
episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
the scene on the bridge at the end, where everyone (well almost) is just smiling was truly wonderful. I love that a couple of the unnamed bridge crew and just happily continuing to do their work despite being drenched.
I noticed those unnamed bridge crew as well, and it really sparked a desire for an Orville version of the TNG episode Lower Decks; the one where it's just about the lives of random low-ranking crewmen while the usual TNG goings-on occur.
in a complete reversal the lower deck officers are super professional Season 1 Picard types
Bonus points if
they all transfer off the ship at the end of the episode and show back up as the senior staff of a top of the line battle cruiser, pulls the Orville's ass out of a fire, and the captain tells Mercer, "Well we were on our way to some kind of alien pee party when somebody remembered that we're all goddamn adults."
I don't know if this has been debated before, but one of claims of "Galaxy Quest" is that it's often ranked in the top 10 ten best Star Trek movies. It is sometimes seen as being technically a Star Trek, just not the Star Trek.
Would you classify The Orville as being a Star Trek too?
Did Star Trek become a genre? If so, does that mean that Discovery... well... Isn't a Star Trek?
Also, are there any fan theories that actually put The Orville in the Star Trek universe?
I still maintain that if/when Patrick Stewart cameos on Orville he needs to be the captain of the Union flagship, but instead of being like Picard, make him a MASSIVE douchebag, just total opposite of Picard, Constantly brags about his ship being bigger than the Orville, and harasses/trolls Mercer all the time. Have him make some remark about how he's sleeping with his ship's doctor and they show her and either she looks like Beverly/Gates McFadden, or is actually her (maybe with some whiny little son in the background)
Heh, I just had a thought. Can you imagine the Orville is in a Union system somewhere where they are testing a new Stargate jump technology. Here is the Orville, ready to jump through it for the first time and something goes wrong. Power flux or something... Then *Kerpow* out pops a Federation starship and [Next Gen character] is the captain! He's demanding an answer to what they did to his ship.
Patrick should just straight up play Bullock from American Dad. Mercer respects him but is aware he's probably insane
And if his sister wants a small role in person (she's the ship's computer voice), make Rachel McFarlane be Bullock's lover. And have her be Mercer's sister in universe too.
It's not quite Bullock/Hayley/Stan (cause that was creepy as fuck even for a McFarlane cartoon), but it's close enough.
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I love that Robert Picardo is Alara's father, and it was made so much better when John Billingsley (Phlox) showed up as his neighbor.
Regarding the shuttle bay location, it makes sense to me, in that you would want it along the ship's axis of motion, and on the side with the least swing from pitch and yaw. If you are trying to land in combat, it would be much easier to do that then try to come in perpendicular or in an area that shifts more drastically as the ship maneuvers. Also, the Union might consider damaging one of the Archean preferable to slamming into a more heavily occupied area.
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Docking is where there would be a problem.
That's true in the real world, with Newtonian physics, but I'm pretty sure the Orvill drive tech (and most other sci-fi, The Expanse excepted), fudge the hell out of it.
And the shuttle is about the size of a Uhaul the engines are literally miles apart there's tons of room
I'm sure whatever macguffin tech keeps the crew from laminating the walls during maneuvers would keep the shuttle at zero relative motion inside the hanger. The problem is when it is outside the ship, trying to aim for the bay doors.
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you'll find that computers are quite good at doing this whole Quaternion rotation calculations even without the aid of tractor beams. Hell the Russians managed to dock manually with an out of control space station sniping on two axis.
Technically, a rigid 3-dimensional object only ever has one axis of rotation. Anything that might appear like a spin on two or three (reference) axis is really just a spin around different, single axis. Even so, it's no small feat as a craft trying to dock to a tumbling ship still needs to follow a rather tricky 3-d path to do so.
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Apparently, this season will have some cool stuff about Isaac and the Kaylons in general, the actor can't talk about it though
You don't try to land on a carrier while it is trying to evade an attack, and aircraft are generally less vulnerable in the air than on the deck. If the Orville has to recover a shuttle during a fight, trying to slide into the bay is going to take more time. As you say, they have well trained pilots; they shouldn't have a problem avoiding those arches. The gaps between them are much larger than the shuttle bay, and it looks like the bay opens directly towards the gap between the 2nd and 3rd arch. Another advantage is that that whole area between the arches and the main hull should be covered by the Orville's deflectors. They only have to drop the shields long enough for the shuttle to get into that space. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to have the shuttle bay where it is;
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episode 6 of s2 was incredibly good. I genuinely am shocked how good this season is
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Just to be clear, this has happened before, on this show. In the first episode. And it didn't take more time.
"Mercer to Orville, we've lost navigational control, and we're about twelve seconds away from hitting you like a bug on a windshield."
"Lieutenant, can you align the shuttle bay doors with their trajectory?"
"Sir, even if I was the best helmsman in the galaxy, that's virtually impossible."
"If you can *pause* 'hug the donkey', you can do this."
Now, granted, it was missing it's upper quantum drive at that point, but still, that's the equivalent of an aircraft carrier navigating UNDER an unresponsive aircraft.
I'm arguing relative physics minutia about a fictional sci-fi television show, on the internets, at literally 2:48am. I am such a nerd.
EDIT : Added more nerd.
But they didn't slide the ship into a shuttle bay on the side of the ship; they got in front of it and matched vector/velocity, which is exactly why you'd want the bay center-aft.
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There's no doubt in my mind Mercers Parents were supposed to be Patrick Stewart and Gates McFadden but Paramount grabbed them for the Picard show and slapped a no compete in the contracts
I was actually kinda sad on the reveal of Billingsley that they didn't cast McFadden as either Alara's mother, or the wife of Billingsley (if she wanted a smaller non-recurring role, should Sage decide to return). Mulduar would probably have been too old for either role (though she's only 11 years Gate's senior), and according to IMDB hasn't acted in a quarter century. That'd only have left needing Alexander Siddig as the property caretaker, and it would have been the perfect nerd episode casting.
Edit: Whoops. Wrong thread.
Read Redshirts by John Scalzi sometime. Its a fun take on a lot of Star Trek tropes.
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I wonder if they're avoiding that on purpose by introducing more advanced races who seem godlike in comparison
Bonus points if
Would you classify The Orville as being a Star Trek too?
Did Star Trek become a genre? If so, does that mean that Discovery... well... Isn't a Star Trek?
Also, are there any fan theories that actually put The Orville in the Star Trek universe?
Star Trek isn't a genre. As pointed out by a great Scholar they never even went to a star.
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Sure they did, they totally flew through the coronasphere of the Earth's sun in Star Trek IV, the one with the whales.
And if his sister wants a small role in person (she's the ship's computer voice), make Rachel McFarlane be Bullock's lover. And have her be Mercer's sister in universe too.
It's not quite Bullock/Hayley/Stan (cause that was creepy as fuck even for a McFarlane cartoon), but it's close enough.