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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Lol at you guys with like 7 hard drives.

    I still have just the one 256GB SSD and my Pioneer BluRay drive in this computer that I built back at the end of 2012. Granted, I really only use the BluRay drive for ripping new CDs to FLAC for putting on my phone, but still, I use it!

  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    @Thirith do you get any event codes when you restart?

    Can you ping the computer when the screen goes black? Or if you keyboard has indicator lights for caps lock, does the caps lock key still toggle the light on and off?

    Edit - might as well run the dism.exe and SFC scan tools as well. Maybe also do a memory check.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    iguanacus wrote: »
    Phone posting so I can't grab the link but Gamers Nexus has the new ryzen announcement being at E3 and then a launch in July

    Yesssss

  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Lol at you guys with like 7 hard drives.

    I still have just the one 256GB SSD and my Pioneer BluRay drive in this computer that I built back at the end of 2012. Granted, I really only use the BluRay drive for ripping new CDs to FLAC for putting on my phone, but still, I use it!

    Do you really use flac for general files? I could maybe understand archival purposes, but 320kb mp3, or even v0 encoded seems like it would be plenty. How many songs could you even get on a phone in flac?

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Jebus314 wrote: »
    Lol at you guys with like 7 hard drives.

    I still have just the one 256GB SSD and my Pioneer BluRay drive in this computer that I built back at the end of 2012. Granted, I really only use the BluRay drive for ripping new CDs to FLAC for putting on my phone, but still, I use it!

    Do you really use flac for general files? I could maybe understand archival purposes, but 320kb mp3, or even v0 encoded seems like it would be plenty. How many songs could you even get on a phone in flac?

    Well, my phone has 64 GB of internal memory and I put a 32GB microSD card in it, and ripping my CDs to best quality FLAC compresses them down to about 500 MB, so I have about 75 full albums in there with plenty of space still left.

    Also yes, it's for archival purposes too. I use those FLAC files on my PC for listening and also for putting on my partner's phone for her to listen to, the only time I use actual physical CDs for listening to music is in our car which is from 2008 and is lacking a USB port in the stereo.

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    @Jebus314 Thanks, I’ll check these things the next time it happens.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Hm. AMD announcement in 90 minutes, apparently.

    Im holding out for the Ryzen 3ks for my next build, so... Eagerly awaiting. Probably gonna do something dumb like a 16 core if the rumors are right.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    KiTA wrote: »
    Hm. AMD announcement in 90 minutes, apparently.

    Im holding out for the Ryzen 3ks for my next build, so... Eagerly awaiting. Probably gonna do something dumb like a 16 core if the rumors are right.

    Watching it now.
    Talking about Epyc and announcing a 1.5 Exaflops supercomputer.

    Showed the same video about Epyc as they did at CES...


    Announced partnership with Microsoft Azure.


    Epyc Rome (2nd gen Epyc):
    • Up to 64 cores
    • 2x performance
    • 4x floating point performance


    Up next, "graphics and gaming"

    NAVI:

    • Will be in the next Playstation
    • 7 nanometer RNDA (Radeon DNA wtf?)
    • PCIe gen 4 enabled
    • RDNA = new architecture?!

    RNDA:
    • New compute unit design (more IPC)
    • More bandwidth
    • RDNA vs VEGA 1.25x (25% faster per clock!)
    • 1.5x performance per watt (vs Vega)


    Rx 5000 family!

    Rx 5700 (NAVI 1st gen):
    • 7nm
    • RDNA
    • "Very Very Soon"
    • Gaming demo Strange Brigade
    • Demo RTX 2070 vs Rx5700 (can't see the FPS really, looks like 10% over 2070)
    • NAVI available in July (early July everywhere)

    Missed some putting kids to bed.
    Talking about devices and the PC ecosystem.

    Talking about how AMD is great as an OEM partner with hardware and drivers.

    Ryzen will be 50% "modern devices" this year.


    Bunch of Ryzen mobile stuff we saw at CES.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    Hm. AMD announcement in 90 minutes, apparently.

    Im holding out for the Ryzen 3ks for my next build, so... Eagerly awaiting. Probably gonna do something dumb like a 16 core if the rumors are right.

    Watching it now.
    Talking about Epyc and announcing a 1.5 Exaflops supercomputer.

    Showed the same video about Epyc as they did at CES...


    Announced partnership with Microsoft Azure.


    Epyc Rome (2nd gen Epyc):
    • Up to 64 cores
    • 2x performance
    • 4x floating point performance


    Up next, "graphics and gaming"

    NAVI:

    • Will be in the next Playstation
    • 7 nanometer RNDA (Radeon DNA wtf?)
    • PCIe gen 4 enabled
    • RDNA = new architecture?!

    RNDA:
    • New compute unit design (more IPC)
    • More bandwidth
    • RDNA vs VEGA 1.25x (25% faster per clock!)
    • 1.5x performance per watt (vs Vega)


    Rx 5000 family!

    Rx 5700 (NAVI 1st gen):
    • 7nm
    • RDNA
    • "Very Very Soon"
    • Gaming demo Strange Brigade
    • Demo RTX 2070 vs Rx5700 (can't see the FPS really, looks like 10% over 2070)
    • NAVI available in July (early July everywhere)


    Now lets be fair here while it was 10% Strange Brigade always ran better on AMD cause its Vulkan based, also that videocard had no price point so those benchmarks mean nothing without that.


    But they are doing a full line reveal at on June 10th at E3

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    News articles are popping up saying the max cores for the 3k are... 12.not 16. Huh.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    News articles are popping up saying the max cores for the 3k are... 12.not 16. Huh.

    there has been crazy stuff over the last week.

    Id wait until AMD themselves say it.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Here we go, Ryzen 3rd gen time.
    • Zen 2 core
    • AM4 socket
    • First PCIe gen 4 platform
    • Double the floating point performance!
    • Double the cache!
    • 15% increase in IPC!!
    • 3700x 8 core 16 thread, 4.4ghz boost, 3.6 base, 65w!, 36MB cache!
    • 3800x, 8 core 16 threads, 3.9 base, 4.5 boost, 36MB cache, 105w TDP
    • Holy fuck, 65W!

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Also for those keeping score at home


    PS5 was only mentioned cause of that Wired story if that hadnt happened we wouldn't of heard about AMD's involvement

    Just like how the Microsoft lady was clearly leading but not saying Zen2/Navi in next Xbox but cant say anything till MS makes the announcement

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    holy fuck that TDP decrease

  • danxdanx Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    CPU stuff from the live stream:

    7nm Zen2 Chiplet design
    PCIE 4 ready
    2x FP Performance
    Double cache size
    IPC ~15% more

    Ryzen 7 3700X   8c/16t  3.6 Ghz/4.4Ghz Boost 36MB Cache   65w TDP   $329
    Ryzen 7 3800X   8c/16t  3.9 Ghz/4.5Ghz Boost 36MB Cache  105w TDP   $399
    Ryzen 9 3900X  12c/24t  3.8 Ghz/4.6Ghz Boost 70MB Cache  105w TDP   $499 
    

    No 16c (yet).

    Releases on July 7th

    edit: Fixed 3700X cores and prices.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    This is why I hate AMD they never actually quantify their benchmarks

    those numbers on the PUBG bench means nothing without prices attached

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Wow, showing a 3800x and 5700 vs a 9900k and 2080ti.

    Double the FPS in the benchmark.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    This is why I hate AMD they never actually quantify their benchmarks

    those numbers on the PUBG bench means nothing without prices attached

    No one does this. It's not a uniquely AMD thing.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    This is why I hate AMD they never actually quantify their benchmarks

    those numbers on the PUBG bench means nothing without prices attached

    No one does this. It's not a uniquely AMD thing.

    True but the way AMD is situated, with price/performance over pure power (typically) its always weird.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Ryzen 9

    3900x = 12 core, 24 threads, 4.6ghz boost, 3.8ghz base, 70MB cache holy shit, 105W



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  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    I'm not smart enough to get it here but what the hell is with the massive cache numbers? Is this such an amazing game / processing helper?

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Prices:

    $329 3700x
    $399 3800x
    $499 3900x

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    HOLY FUCKING SHIT

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    Someone buy Intel a beer. They're gonna need it.

    7/7 release date.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    ... So no 16c option?

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    If they can go after NVIDIA pricewise like they just did Intel, Ill be floored.

  • DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    Prob gonna grab a 3700x, finally retire the 3770k...you did good chip

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    ... So no 16c option?

    No 16 core announced.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    I was expecting 800-900 not half price.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Key highlights for me is the insane 65W TDP and massive cache numbers.

    No NAVI prices :/

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    So on a scale of 1 to Huawei how boned is Intel, for the next few months at least?

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    Key highlights for me is the insane 65W TDP and massive cache numbers.

    No NAVI prices :/

    personally for me all they would have to do is launch the 2070 competitor at the 2060's price. therefore eliminating the bullshit $100 RTX tax Nvidia imposed

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    So on a scale of 1 to Huawei how boned is Intel, for the next few months at least?

    seriously Huawei level is pretty good here.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    legit pissed off I bought my 2600 based PC a couple months ago and didnt wait, I really didnt think Zen 2 was going to go this hard.


    I also didnt expect a July launch either tbh I expected September at the earliest.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Having finally seen RTX in person for BF and Metro I'm pretty sold honestly.
    Hopefully this will introduce some competitive market pressures.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    legit pissed off I bought my 2600 based PC a couple months ago and didnt wait, I really didnt think Zen 2 was going to go this hard.


    I also didnt expect a July launch either tbh I expected September at the earliest.

    You can always dump it asap. Pretty unlikely joe gamer is watching AMD keynotes and reading anandtech.

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Just FYI fellow nerds. Nvidia is having a stream in a bit as well


    https://wccftech.com/watch-nvidias-computex-super-announcement-livestream-here/

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    Just FYI fellow nerds. Nvidia is having a stream in a bit as well


    https://wccftech.com/watch-nvidias-computex-super-announcement-livestream-here/

    tl;dr assumptions are a 2070ti announcement

  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    edited May 2019
    I mean, this is a pretty fucking stellar CPU landscape for the next 6-12 months.
    Nice job AMD.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    The number 12 is just... A weird number for cores. Guess a 3900X is fine.

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