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I am told that the dub delivery makes Spike a bit more of a dork during the jokey jokey bits and while the sub is still good you don’t get as much variance with the delivery.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Man that song choice is just top notch every time.
I need to go re-watch Cowboy Bebop.
That music cue is one of my favorite things of all time
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The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.
I think Panty and Stocking actually works better in english. Though there is something charming about english swear words through a japanese filter.
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I prefer the Brotherhood dub to the original. A lot.
And there is something about the string of swears that mean I have to watch Black Lagoon in English.
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I kind of want someone to do an anime documentary that intentionally avoids the really big stuff.
Give me that info on those anime that became extremely poorly dubbed in the late '80s and early '90s.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I'm curious actually, are there any anime that Japanese fans prefer the English Dub of over the original?
Give me some time; most of my friends who speak fluent English aren't big anime fans, but I've met a few here. It shouldn't be any surprise, but there are a lot of nerds in the Japanese military too. Still, if I were a betting man, I'd say there's a better chance of finding a unicorn in Shibuya than a native Japanese person who prefers an English dub voice. As one might expect they're pretty proud of their cultural products, and voice actors here are much more revered than even American icons like Matt Mercer or Tara Strong. Getting someone like Liam Neeson to voice over Takuya Kimura just doesn't have any impact because Kimura is a fucking legend here.
The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.
Oh, actually this reminds me of one case I do know about where the English version was superior: the Final Fantasy XIV localization team went ham-wild on all the puns, especially when translating quest names. Japanese audiences eventually discovered this and punpunshite* requested more puns be integrated into the Japanese text as well!
*Translator's note: "pun" is the sound of anger, like when you see that pound symbol appear on someone's forehead. So ぷんぷんして is angrily. And yes, Square translators made this joke.
The directors commentary for FLCL mentioned at some point that they felt the English dub was very well done and better than the original Japanese at times.
Oh, actually this reminds me of one case I do know about where the English version was superior: the Final Fantasy XIV localization team went ham-wild on all the puns, especially when translating quest names. Japanese audiences eventually discovered this and punpunshite* requested more puns be integrated into the Japanese text as well!
*Translator's note: "pun" is the sound of anger, like when you see that pound symbol appear on someone's forehead. So ぷんぷんして is angrily. And yes, Square translators made this joke.
Yeah, Koji's pretty much a mad genius (emphasis on mad), but it's worth pointing out that while born in the US, he's spent most of his professional life in Japan as well.
Edit: It's also sad that one of his masterpieces was lost to 1.0 - he wrote the text for a goldsmithing levequest to be about you supplying jewelry for a demand for...intimate piercings.
I find when it comes to dubs it depends on the atmosphere of the show. Black Lagoon, and Panty & Stocking both sound great in English since when it comes to a fuckton of swearing while firing guns and sassy high school girls trading bitchy insults nothing beats English. Space Dandy is another one were English sounds more right.
I find when it comes to dubs it depends on the atmosphere of the show. Black Lagoon, and Panty & Stocking both sound great in English since when it comes to a fuckton of swearing while firing guns and sassy high school girls trading bitchy insults nothing beats English. Space Dandy is another one were English sounds more right.
Baccano! is another, in large part because the English version gets the accents right.
it's incredibly animated and really stylish, but oof a lot of what happens is gross as shit
It is so gonzo that at times/all the time it will really force people's ability to suspend disbelief. If you go in as a Devilman fan, it is the best thing ever. If you go in as a Yuasa fan, you will have an easier time just going along with it. If you go in as neither, it's... uh, a ride. If you are able to keep your disbelief suspended, it has some of the biggest feels of any recent anime and a lot of big ideas/themes to chew on. But it is so wtf that I can see a lot of people bouncing off it real fast.
It is very big on showing humans at their very worst. The "villain" effectively has a plan and persona that is totally edgy-cool but even in this gonzo-ass show is monstrous. It doesn't matter if the villains get their comeuppance, because all the victims and incidental casualties of the whole affair suffered and died horribly. There is no punishment which undoes their crimes.
I do think it has a lot of ideas which are relevant to current times, like how some of the worst traits in humanity are ones which are the most powerful in uniting people into monstrous mobs, or how all kinds of vigilante superhero traits like being unbound by any sense of rules or human connections together with fearless capability not only leads to monsters but monsters which people will admire and follow. Angry mobs of people are one of the scariest things in the show. The hero's traits of being openly compassionate, empathetic and unabashedly tearful from his feelings are something that gets scoffed at by nearly everybody else in that world, but it is what humans and society are in desperate need of. There's plenty that could be found about the deeply negative effects of the cult of masculinity in the show.
I think it's amazing, though it is a thing which is pretty full of wtf-ery.
I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!
Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!
I think Panty and Stocking actually works better in english. Though there is something charming about english swear words through a japanese filter.
One of my favorite moments in Hitoribocchi
That whole scene was really funny because the text she is reading right before that is the English script for the previous scene, but the teacher says he actually wanted her to read the next page. Which would have just been the current scene presumably.
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I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!
Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!
(You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)
Shirobako contains one of the single best explanations about how keyframing for 3D animation can easily go wrong and result in animation that looks curiously bland, and how to approach it from the point of view of 2D animation timing. I wish they just put that snippet up on their official channel so that it can be referenced by any one at any time, rather than needing to rely on 3rd party clips of it that youtube takes down.
I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!
Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!
(You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)
Wonder what real life production train wreck this is going to based on.
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yeah but the problem with the soundtrack is that makes me think of the anime
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I've been sitting here with this Avatar and this Signature for 6 or so years, so I guess I should recommend Jormungand.
Trailer for ID:INVADED. New original anime by director Ei Aoki who has directed Re:Creators, Aldnoah.Zero and Fate/Zero in the past. (I guess he has a thing for weird punctuation in titles)
Airing sometime in 2020. Looks trippy.
Honestly Same.
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got to see Millennium Actress in a theater tonight
Edit: I... don't like the dub... Sorry, I couldn't quickly find the subbed trailer...
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I liked Jormungand a lot but the ending frustrated me
MAJOR ENDING SPOILERS AHEAD
So like, the main character and co. create a super AI that can knock anything out of the sky (that has a computer in it), and she somehow thinks that being denied the skies will somehow shock people out of war, a completely insane plan that kills thousands of people and will create massive issues, and like 5 minutes later we learn that gee whiz, who'd have guessed, it didn't do shit. People are still going to war. And hell, with all nuclear missiles rendered useless, it's actually all the more likely major powers will come to actual blows again since nuking each other is way harder now. And I mean that isn't even getting into my own pet issues of how locking people on the planet earth indefinitely is likely to kill off our species or knock us back to a pre-industrial age eventually, since Earth's resources are finite and there isn't infinite space for population growth so I mean unless someone eventually knocks it down goodbye to humanity ever benefiting from the essentially infinite amounts of room and resources in space. I hope making the situation on Earth essentially like a hundred times worse in the long AND short term was worth the 5 minutes of deluding yourself into thinking you could keep humans from fighting by what, hurting their pride? Making them feel helpless? This character is supposed to be uber educated but I feel like a single basic psychology course could demonstrate a numerous ways that that wouldn't work.
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I need to go re-watch Cowboy Bebop.
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And there is something about the string of swears that mean I have to watch Black Lagoon in English.
https://youtu.be/DKwaPSkjXp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3K0oNtVCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9GrOntPvpk
Give me that info on those anime that became extremely poorly dubbed in the late '80s and early '90s.
Ain’t no better dub than the Devilman OVA dub
Grosser than you expect on almost every level, but well animated.
no personal experience but seems well loved by twitter
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Give me some time; most of my friends who speak fluent English aren't big anime fans, but I've met a few here. It shouldn't be any surprise, but there are a lot of nerds in the Japanese military too. Still, if I were a betting man, I'd say there's a better chance of finding a unicorn in Shibuya than a native Japanese person who prefers an English dub voice. As one might expect they're pretty proud of their cultural products, and voice actors here are much more revered than even American icons like Matt Mercer or Tara Strong. Getting someone like Liam Neeson to voice over Takuya Kimura just doesn't have any impact because Kimura is a fucking legend here.
Oh, actually this reminds me of one case I do know about where the English version was superior: the Final Fantasy XIV localization team went ham-wild on all the puns, especially when translating quest names. Japanese audiences eventually discovered this and punpunshite* requested more puns be integrated into the Japanese text as well!
*Translator's note: "pun" is the sound of anger, like when you see that pound symbol appear on someone's forehead. So ぷんぷんして is angrily. And yes, Square translators made this joke.
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it's incredibly animated and really stylish, but oof a lot of what happens is gross as shit
Yeah, Koji's pretty much a mad genius (emphasis on mad), but it's worth pointing out that while born in the US, he's spent most of his professional life in Japan as well.
Edit: It's also sad that one of his masterpieces was lost to 1.0 - he wrote the text for a goldsmithing levequest to be about you supplying jewelry for a demand for...intimate piercings.
Baccano! is another, in large part because the English version gets the accents right.
It is so gonzo that at times/all the time it will really force people's ability to suspend disbelief. If you go in as a Devilman fan, it is the best thing ever. If you go in as a Yuasa fan, you will have an easier time just going along with it. If you go in as neither, it's... uh, a ride. If you are able to keep your disbelief suspended, it has some of the biggest feels of any recent anime and a lot of big ideas/themes to chew on. But it is so wtf that I can see a lot of people bouncing off it real fast.
It is very big on showing humans at their very worst. The "villain" effectively has a plan and persona that is totally edgy-cool but even in this gonzo-ass show is monstrous. It doesn't matter if the villains get their comeuppance, because all the victims and incidental casualties of the whole affair suffered and died horribly. There is no punishment which undoes their crimes.
I do think it has a lot of ideas which are relevant to current times, like how some of the worst traits in humanity are ones which are the most powerful in uniting people into monstrous mobs, or how all kinds of vigilante superhero traits like being unbound by any sense of rules or human connections together with fearless capability not only leads to monsters but monsters which people will admire and follow. Angry mobs of people are one of the scariest things in the show. The hero's traits of being openly compassionate, empathetic and unabashedly tearful from his feelings are something that gets scoffed at by nearly everybody else in that world, but it is what humans and society are in desperate need of. There's plenty that could be found about the deeply negative effects of the cult of masculinity in the show.
I think it's amazing, though it is a thing which is pretty full of wtf-ery.
Yes.
I somehow missed this from a few days ago, but Shirobako movie teaser!
Only 30 seconds long and the movie is a year away from being released in Japan so who fucking knows how long till I'll actually get to see it, but who cares it's still Shirobako!!!
(You should watch Shirobako, it's a great show)
One of my favorite moments in Hitoribocchi
Also the soundtrack rips
Yeah, even if you never watch the show, the soundtrack is totally worth a listen.
Shirobako contains one of the single best explanations about how keyframing for 3D animation can easily go wrong and result in animation that looks curiously bland, and how to approach it from the point of view of 2D animation timing. I wish they just put that snippet up on their official channel so that it can be referenced by any one at any time, rather than needing to rely on 3rd party clips of it that youtube takes down.
Wonder what real life production train wreck this is going to based on.
If you like Black Lagoon you might like it..
Honestly Same.
I hate waking up with arm cramps.
Millennium Actress: still extremely fucking good
The nidgard serpent? Surely though jest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jubovSaFDec
Edit: I... don't like the dub... Sorry, I couldn't quickly find the subbed trailer...
MAJOR ENDING SPOILERS AHEAD
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Read this interview with the director of Into the Anime if you want to witness a trainwreck in interview form.
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