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    CelloCello Registered User regular
    ....I've always used a knife

    Am I about to learn something here

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    ....I've always used a knife

    Am I about to learn something here

    If you use a fork to gently pry the halves apart, you get some deep nooks and crannies

    With the thomas brand style english muffins at least

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    But if you use a bread knife you not only get two even pieces, you get loads of bubble pockets for butter to melt into?

    Honestly, that way is a delight every time.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Reminds me of how I grew up with so many dinner rules.

    Like, one UK dinner rule is that it’s actually considered rude to cut open a bread roll, a bread roll is always torn open with your hands.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    My least favourite rule is that your fork must always be held in the left hand and you may NOT turn it over (ie to scoop things, scooping is a no-no).

    As a kid, trying to press all the peas or sweet corn onto the back of my fork with a knife was hell. I mean, it’s hard enough to do as an adult...

    And did you know that, unless the dessert is something like ice cream, you may use a dessert fork by itself, or a dessert fork by itself *and* a spoon, but you may not use a spoon by itself to eat dessert? My mom was more relaxed on that rule, though, so it only really applied at my grandmother’s dinner table.

    So many ridiculous classist rules.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Good thing you are in America now

    No rules here

    No holds barred

    Everything goes

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Spooning my lunch into my mouth with a plastic fork held in my right hand, hell yeah

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    What the fuck is a dessert fork?

    Why would anyone eat ice cream with a fork?

    I'm so angry

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    just load all the peas into a paper towel roll and drop em in like a healthy pixie stick

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    Sweet corn has its own utensil.

    It's called the cob.

    Butter that baby up and typerwriter it.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    Janson wrote: »
    My least favourite rule is that your fork must always be held in the left hand and you may NOT turn it over (ie to scoop things, scooping is a no-no).

    As a kid, trying to press all the peas or sweet corn onto the back of my fork with a knife was hell. I mean, it’s hard enough to do as an adult...

    And did you know that, unless the dessert is something like ice cream, you may use a dessert fork by itself, or a dessert fork by itself *and* a spoon, but you may not use a spoon by itself to eat dessert? My mom was more relaxed on that rule, though, so it only really applied at my grandmother’s dinner table.

    So many ridiculous classist rules.

    As a fellow Brit I have never encountered any of these rules and I feel I must inform you that your mother was trolling you

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    They are genuine British dining etiquette rules! I actually found all those in one link, here.

    If you ever watched Mrs Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances, that was my grandmother. From a Yorkshire mining family, not that she’d ever let you know, of course.

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Actually that makes it make sense yeah

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    Sweet corn has its own utensil.

    It's called the cob.

    Butter that baby up and typerwriter it.

    there's got to be some kind of science to explain why corn tastes so much better on the cob (besides all the extra salt and butter, although that helps)

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    Janson wrote: »
    They are genuine British dining etiquette rules! I actually found all those in one link, here.

    If you ever watched Mrs Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances, that was my grandmother. From a Yorkshire mining family, not that she’d ever let you know, of course.

    That's absolutely what my english grandparents impressed upon my brother and I whenever we visited

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I was told off hand by my Nan that turning over your fork to use it like a spoon was very "American"

    And in response my Dad ate his meal with his fork turned up like a spoon and affected an overdone American accent, something which he and I found very funny and nobody else did

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    It is pretty American though

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    I now want to go to a formal British dinner and be the worst possible bore

    You know

    Be myself

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I was told off hand by my Nan that turning over your fork to use it like a spoon was very "American"

    And in response my Dad ate his meal with his fork turned up like a spoon and affected an overdone American accent, something which he and I found very funny and nobody else did

    When you say turn your fork "over," what constitutes upside down on a fork for you? Tines curving towards you or tines curving away from you?

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    The tines are always supposed to be facing down with the fork. You must only stab things and bring them to your mouth.

    You can't use it like a shovel.

    And no elbows on the table.

    (My dad's family are also Yorkshire mining folks.

    He puts his elbows on the table.)

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    I exclusively hold the fork via the times and wipe my ass with pages from Emily Posts etiquette guide

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Janson wrote: »
    Reminds me of how I grew up with so many dinner rules.

    Like, one UK dinner rule is that it’s actually considered rude to cut open a bread roll, a bread roll is always torn open with your hands.

    Did you have to tear it in a specific way? When I was learning 4-H banquet etiquette we had to tear it so that the breach was facing downward, so that all the crumbs would spall toward the plate instead of your dining companions.

    I always thought that was an admirable level of foresight. Then again, the rolls at the Albuquerque Ramada were uncommonly crusty, so maybe that was just us.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    but if the tines face down, wouldn't soft stuff fall off? Like mashed potatoes

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    McFodderMcFodder Registered User regular
    Yes, but for traditional English food it's better not to eat it so they are doing you a favour.

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    I once got told I had “good Norse blood” by an old racist because of the way I held my knife and fork, so I immediately switched it up

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Janson wrote: »
    They are genuine British dining etiquette rules! I actually found all those in one link, here.

    If you ever watched Mrs Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances, that was my grandmother. From a Yorkshire mining family, not that she’d ever let you know, of course.

    My Dad's from Huddersfield and my Mum's from Knutsford, and besides "chew with your mouth closed", "don't talk with your mouth full", and "no elbows on the table", all other dinner etiquette bullshit was utterly disregarded. Dad's working class as fuck, I'm the 4th generation of mechanic on that side of the family, and despite going to a nice grammar school on scholarship Mum turned out to be a socialist, so that might have a lot to do with it.

    I still consider wearing a hat inside quite rude though, I don't know where I picked that up from.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    Reminds me of how I grew up with so many dinner rules.

    Like, one UK dinner rule is that it’s actually considered rude to cut open a bread roll, a bread roll is always torn open with your hands.

    Did you have to tear it in a specific way? When I was learning 4-H banquet etiquette we had to tear it so that the breach was facing downward, so that all the crumbs would spall toward the plate instead of your dining companions.

    I always thought that was an admirable level of foresight. Then again, the rolls at the Albuquerque Ramada were uncommonly crusty, so maybe that was just us.

    Not so far as I know! But I can definitely imagine that being a thing.
    Xaquin wrote: »
    but if the tines face down, wouldn't soft stuff fall off? Like mashed potatoes

    No? I mean mashed potatoes are soft but not like, gloopy or slimy.

    The only food I ever really struggled with was peas.

    Attending my grandmother’s four course dinners was somewhat torturous to a small child but I’m still a little sad to think my kids won’t experience them. They were always quite the event.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited September 2020
    Janson your grandmother sounds like the exact opposite of mine.

    I feel like few things described my grandma's lack of pretension better than her name being Cordelia and refusing to let anyone call her anything but Corky.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Janson wrote: »
    They are genuine British dining etiquette rules! I actually found all those in one link, here.

    If you ever watched Mrs Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances, that was my grandmother. From a Yorkshire mining family, not that she’d ever let you know, of course.

    My Dad's from Huddersfield and my Mum's from Knutsford, and besides "chew with your mouth closed", "don't talk with your mouth full", and "no elbows on the table", all other dinner etiquette bullshit was utterly disregarded. Dad's working class as fuck, I'm the 4th generation of mechanic on that side of the family, and despite going to a nice grammar school on scholarship Mum turned out to be a socialist, so that might have a lot to do with it.

    I still consider wearing a hat inside quite rude though, I don't know where I picked that up from.

    literally all I know of Huddersfield is that Huddersfield Ben was an early yorkshire terrier that is considered the progenitor of the breed

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    They are genuine British dining etiquette rules! I actually found all those in one link, here.

    If you ever watched Mrs Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances, that was my grandmother. From a Yorkshire mining family, not that she’d ever let you know, of course.

    My Dad's from Huddersfield and my Mum's from Knutsford, and besides "chew with your mouth closed", "don't talk with your mouth full", and "no elbows on the table", all other dinner etiquette bullshit was utterly disregarded. Dad's working class as fuck, I'm the 4th generation of mechanic on that side of the family, and despite going to a nice grammar school on scholarship Mum turned out to be a socialist, so that might have a lot to do with it.

    I still consider wearing a hat inside quite rude though, I don't know where I picked that up from.

    literally all I know of Huddersfield is that Huddersfield Ben was an early yorkshire terrier that is considered the progenitor of the breed

    It's an old textile mill town! The house my Dad grew up in was built some time in the 17th century, and only had running water on the ground floor. They literally set a fire under the bathtub to heat the water!

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I was told off hand by my Nan that turning over your fork to use it like a spoon was very "American"

    And in response my Dad ate his meal with his fork turned up like a spoon and affected an overdone American accent, something which he and I found very funny and nobody else did

    When you say turn your fork "over," what constitutes upside down on a fork for you? Tines curving towards you or tines curving away from you?

    Which way do you think is easier to use it like a spoon?

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    SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Janson wrote: »
    No? I mean mashed potatoes are soft but not like, gloopy or slimy.

    The only food I ever really struggled with was peas.

    Attending my grandmother’s four course dinners was somewhat torturous to a small child but I’m still a little sad to think my kids won’t experience them. They were always quite the event.

    My mum has the same rules passed down from her parents who were a mechanic from Sheffield and an accountant from Stockport. The shortcut was always to mix the peas with some mashed potatoes as a kind of mortar

    It's made me really judgey of people who don't hold their cutlery properly (fork left, tines down, knife right). I was horrified when in a fancy restaurant in the US I saw someone at the next table pin half a chicken down on a plate with a fork held upside down in their right hand then used their knife in the left hand to tear the meat away.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I eat as many of my meals as possible (and you may be surprised how many that is) with just a spoon.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    I eat as many of my meals as possible (and you may be surprised how many that is) with just a spoon.

    That and also soup plates insted of flat plates. Makes the food to mouth pricess so much easier

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I have very little patience for people who critique other people’s utensil use but I am paranoid as hell about how I use chopsticks and bark like a fuckin’ trained seal when somebody compliments me on how I use them.

    I am the lowest hypocrite that has ever lived.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    The continental style is to have the tines facing upwards unless you're pinning something down

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    What I've learned in 15 years of using chopsticks is that friggin' everyone uses chopsticks differently and if anyone says there's one right way of doing it they're a big liar

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    What I've learned in 15 years of using chopsticks is that friggin' everyone uses chopsticks differently and if anyone says there's one right way of doing it they're a big liar

    I worked with a dude who held them in the palm of his hand and would just open and close his fingers and could pick all kinds of shit up that way, that dude was a fuckin’ wizard.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Veldrin wrote: »
    What I've learned in 15 years of using chopsticks is that friggin' everyone uses chopsticks differently and if anyone says there's one right way of doing it they're a big liar

    I worked with a dude who held them in the palm of his hand and would just open and close his fingers and could pick all kinds of shit up that way, that dude was a fuckin’ wizard.

    If he were a wizard why not use them as wands to magic the food into his mouth?

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