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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    The S consoles are native 1080p gaming machines. (Series S is technically native 1440p, but whatever) The X consoles are native 4k machines.

    The "series" consoles are more powerful/faster than their "one" equivalents.

    Regarding the One X and the Series S, the Series S is more powerful/faster, but again, doesn't do native 4k. It can only upscale.

    I reckon I'd just buy a #5 if I were in the market.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Also the One X is discontinued.

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    I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular
    The S consoles are native 1080p gaming machines. (Series S is technically native 1440p, but whatever) The X consoles are native 4k machines.

    The "series" consoles are more powerful/faster than their "one" equivalents.

    Regarding the One X and the Series S, the Series S is more powerful/faster, but again, doesn't do native 4k. It can only upscale.

    I feel like I'm getting farther away from it.

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Brolo wrote: ยป
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    I am replaying Deus Ex Mankind Divided (because that game is good and I miss Deus Ex) and I had completely forgotten about all the absolutely heinous micro transaction DLC that you absolutely donโ€™t need at all but they included for some reason, some of it being straight up consumable one-time-only items

    Doing research, loose talk suggests this was a publisher mandated decision that came down at the very end of development without any warning and they had to scramble to bolt it in at all

    Square killed Deus Ex and I am still mad about it

    yeah the pay for praxis points never made much sense, the game gives you more than you need for free

    How it works is where the whole thing feels insane to meโ€”stuff like โ€œeliteโ€ weapons (which I think were preorder bonuses but now are free downloads) are reusable across play throughs. Each new game, you get access to your elite weapons.

    The praxis points and ammo and stuff though? Those get used once, in a single game, and thatโ€™s it. And if you collect it from storage, and then die without saving since you used it, when you load the game before you collected it, itโ€™s still gone

    You can permanently lose something you paid real money for in a single player game

    Honestly what the hell was Squareโ€™s problem, they invested really hard in Deus Ex as a brand for about a year and then immediately dropped it when it didnโ€™t do whatever crazy numbers they had predicted internally, I am SO bitter about it, not like Mass Effect bitter but pretty close to it

    Yeah there was a FFXV(XIII?) shaped hole in Square's financials, and western franchises were supposed to fill that. That's why Tomb Raider 2013 "underperformed" and Deus Ex was killed. It's a real bummer for me as well.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Square Enix had the weirdest fascination with taking fairly niche genre franchises and trying to turn them into blockbusters by throwing money at them, then being shocked they didn't sell the +7 million they needed to turn a profit.

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    Wait hang on I'm gonna try something.

    Why so Series S?

    Is that anything? Probably not.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    That happens more often that you'd expect.

    EA killed Dead Space because they took a successful niche horror game and tried to turn it into a AAA action game thinking it would sell a lot more.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    That happens more often that you'd expect.

    EA killed Dead Space because they took a successful niche horror game and tried to turn it into a AAA action game thinking it would sell a lot more.

    and filled it with tits don't forget the tits

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    That happens more often that you'd expect.

    EA killed Dead Space because they took a successful niche horror game and tried to turn it into a AAA action game thinking it would sell a lot more.

    Well, EA is practically known for killing [franchise name]

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Uh wow. Somehow battletech got deleted off my computer. No idea how that happened but my 207 day campaign in it is lost forever.

    Whoops.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    Get it cause it's like the thing from that Batman movie, but using the name of one of Microsoft's new consoles instead, cause it sounds similar.

    Just want to make sure everyone gets it, is the thing. Cause if you get it you'll see that it's actually pretty funny, marrying up a movie from 2008 and a console from now.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Get it cause it's like the thing from that Batman movie, but using the name of one of Microsoft's new consoles instead, cause it sounds similar.

    Just want to make sure everyone gets it, is the thing. Cause if you get it you'll see that it's actually pretty funny, marrying up a movie from 2008 and a console from now.

    What in the hoary old fuck are you talking about

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Glal wrote: ยป
    Square Enix had the weirdest fascination with taking fairly niche genre franchises and trying to turn them into blockbusters by throwing money at them, then being shocked they didn't sell the +7 million they needed to turn a profit.

    deus ex and tomb raider both turned sizable profits

    they didn't turn enough profits because AAA game proliferation has been untenable for almost a decade

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    Get it cause it's like the thing from that Batman movie, but using the name of one of Microsoft's new consoles instead, cause it sounds similar.

    Just want to make sure everyone gets it, is the thing. Cause if you get it you'll see that it's actually pretty funny, marrying up a movie from 2008 and a console from now.

    What in the hoary old fuck are you talking about

    Well, so, in the 2008 film The Dark Knight, Heath Ledger portrays The Joker and wait hang on

    So The Joker is a villain and one of Batman's main adversaries gosh wait let's back up

    So Batman is the alias of Bruce Wayne and is a leading comic book superhero dang it we have to talk about that too

    Ok so comic books are a particular type of commercial artwork which wait argh

    So art is any of a huge number of ways of expressing human emotions and experiences, often but not necessarily in a visual way, and has been practiced by all human cultures throughout all periods of time. Some of the earliest art well predates modern humans!

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    And people act like I don't make any sense jesus christ

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    This was easy to miss
    Wait hang on I'm gonna try something.

    Why so Series S?

    Is that anything? Probably not.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Now you're fuckin doin it! There a gas leak in here or somethin whats goin on

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Iron Knuckle made a pun, then they made a joke post over-explaining the pun, then when that confused everyone because their initial pun was easy to miss (or at least it was for me) they posted and even longer overexplanation of the necassary concepts to understand the joke.

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Now you're fuckin doin it! There a gas leak in here or somethin whats goin on

    Don't talk about my butt pls

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    And people act like I don't make any sense jesus christ

    someday hobnail will make sense and i hope i'm there to see it

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Normally I don't like to start drinking quite so heavily this early in the day I guess it could be later wherever you people are

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Normally I don't like to start drinking quite so heavily this early in the day I guess it could be later wherever you people are

    it is absolutely cocktail hour where i am and has been since i woke up

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Not going to lie, the Xbox Series S looks like serious hardware for a goddamn steal. 120fps @ 1080p for less than $400? They're obviously really anticipating Gamepass Ultimate subscriptions on that thing. But why wouldn't you? That's also a great deal, if you're looking at console/PC play. And Android phone streaming now, too.

    Like, if you're already spending that much money every year on games, or close too it, the value proposition of that set up is basically ahead of everything else on the market. And I don't even think it's close.

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    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    I wish there was a Xbox Series E...

    Children's rights are human rights.
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    Ginger MijangoGinger Mijango Don't you open that Trap Door!Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Brolo wrote: ยป
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    I am replaying Deus Ex Mankind Divided (because that game is good and I miss Deus Ex) and I had completely forgotten about all the absolutely heinous micro transaction DLC that you absolutely donโ€™t need at all but they included for some reason, some of it being straight up consumable one-time-only items

    Doing research, loose talk suggests this was a publisher mandated decision that came down at the very end of development without any warning and they had to scramble to bolt it in at all

    Square killed Deus Ex and I am still mad about it

    yeah the pay for praxis points never made much sense, the game gives you more than you need for free

    How it works is where the whole thing feels insane to meโ€”stuff like โ€œeliteโ€ weapons (which I think were preorder bonuses but now are free downloads) are reusable across play throughs. Each new game, you get access to your elite weapons.

    The praxis points and ammo and stuff though? Those get used once, in a single game, and thatโ€™s it. And if you collect it from storage, and then die without saving since you used it, when you load the game before you collected it, itโ€™s still gone

    You can permanently lose something you paid real money for in a single player game

    Honestly what the hell was Squareโ€™s problem, they invested really hard in Deus Ex as a brand for about a year and then immediately dropped it when it didnโ€™t do whatever crazy numbers they had predicted internally, I am SO bitter about it, not like Mass Effect bitter but pretty close to it

    Something that stood out to me, on top of that stupid shop, while playing through it recently was the "Wardrobe" feature, its just...why? it feels like a feature request from on high and if expanded would at least make sense to have it in the shop if you cared enough, but they don't, which makes the shop that little bit more stupid.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: ยป
    I wish there was a Xbox Series E...

    Easy there Elon

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Is the xbox naming convention like some sort of obfuscatory psyop on the part of microsoft or some sort of high inertia fuck up

    there was a post some time back that was about how historically these names have been done in a vacuum by marketing companies, instead of thinking about the history of the company as a whole, which makes sense to me as something a company would stupidly do.

    This is what makes the most sense to me

    I mean yeah Microsoft would prefer to just call their thing "Xbox" and you get a new one each year like an iPhone, but the thing is that even Apple calls them "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 6" and shit

    So it makes way more sense to me that some marketing geniuses got paid millions to go "how about... the series X" and Microsoft was like "BRILLIANT" and no one looked backwards to realize how confusing that was until it was too late for this giant megacorp to stop on a dime and change it

    "High inertia fuck up" is a great way to describe it

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Borderlands 3 is 50% off on Steam and being super late to the party has enabled me to buy it at this discount. Huzzah. I'll probably do a blind stream of it this weekend or something.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Is the xbox naming convention like some sort of obfuscatory psyop on the part of microsoft or some sort of high inertia fuck up

    there was a post some time back that was about how historically these names have been done in a vacuum by marketing companies, instead of thinking about the history of the company as a whole, which makes sense to me as something a company would stupidly do.

    This is what makes the most sense to me

    I mean yeah Microsoft would prefer to just call their thing "Xbox" and you get a new one each year like an iPhone, but the thing is that even Apple calls them "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 6" and shit

    So it makes way more sense to me that some marketing geniuses got paid millions to go "how about... the series X" and Microsoft was like "BRILLIANT" and no one looked backwards to realize how confusing that was until it was too late for this giant megacorp to stop on a dime and change it

    "High inertia fuck up" is a great way to describe it

    It'll be interesting to see how their messaging is once this thing is available to buy.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Is the xbox naming convention like some sort of obfuscatory psyop on the part of microsoft or some sort of high inertia fuck up

    there was a post some time back that was about how historically these names have been done in a vacuum by marketing companies, instead of thinking about the history of the company as a whole, which makes sense to me as something a company would stupidly do.

    This is what makes the most sense to me

    I mean yeah Microsoft would prefer to just call their thing "Xbox" and you get a new one each year like an iPhone, but the thing is that even Apple calls them "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 6" and shit

    So it makes way more sense to me that some marketing geniuses got paid millions to go "how about... the series X" and Microsoft was like "BRILLIANT" and no one looked backwards to realize how confusing that was until it was too late for this giant megacorp to stop on a dime and change it

    "High inertia fuck up" is a great way to describe it

    It'll be interesting to see how their messaging is once this thing is available to buy.

    I predict Wii U levels of bad

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    remember when notch left twitter that owned

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Is the xbox naming convention like some sort of obfuscatory psyop on the part of microsoft or some sort of high inertia fuck up

    there was a post some time back that was about how historically these names have been done in a vacuum by marketing companies, instead of thinking about the history of the company as a whole, which makes sense to me as something a company would stupidly do.

    This is what makes the most sense to me

    I mean yeah Microsoft would prefer to just call their thing "Xbox" and you get a new one each year like an iPhone, but the thing is that even Apple calls them "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 6" and shit

    So it makes way more sense to me that some marketing geniuses got paid millions to go "how about... the series X" and Microsoft was like "BRILLIANT" and no one looked backwards to realize how confusing that was until it was too late for this giant megacorp to stop on a dime and change it

    "High inertia fuck up" is a great way to describe it

    It'll be interesting to see how their messaging is once this thing is available to buy.

    I predict Wii U levels of bad

    I think the WiiU is an outlier. The Wii sold big to people who don't normally get consoles, so on top of them not being as savvy as your average gamer, they also didn't really have a reason to upgrade anyway. Wii Sports still works on the Wii.

    For the Xbox, at least for that first year when there's still One X's on the shelf, it's going to primarily be enthusiasts who, if they're interested in the Xbox at all, will likely do their research.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    remember when notch left twitter that owned

    oh please tell me he's not welched on that pinky swear

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Olivaw wrote: ยป
    Is the xbox naming convention like some sort of obfuscatory psyop on the part of microsoft or some sort of high inertia fuck up

    there was a post some time back that was about how historically these names have been done in a vacuum by marketing companies, instead of thinking about the history of the company as a whole, which makes sense to me as something a company would stupidly do.

    This is what makes the most sense to me

    I mean yeah Microsoft would prefer to just call their thing "Xbox" and you get a new one each year like an iPhone, but the thing is that even Apple calls them "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 6" and shit

    So it makes way more sense to me that some marketing geniuses got paid millions to go "how about... the series X" and Microsoft was like "BRILLIANT" and no one looked backwards to realize how confusing that was until it was too late for this giant megacorp to stop on a dime and change it

    "High inertia fuck up" is a great way to describe it

    It'll be interesting to see how their messaging is once this thing is available to buy.

    I predict Wii U levels of bad

    I think the WiiU is an outlier. The Wii sold big to people who don't normally get consoles, so on top of them not being as savvy as your average gamer, they also didn't really have a reason to upgrade anyway. Wii Sports still works on the Wii.

    For the Xbox, at least for that first year when there's still One X's on the shelf, it's going to primarily be enthusiasts who, if they're interested in the Xbox at all, will likely do their research.

    Oh Iโ€™m not predicting Wii U sales, just Wii U messaging

    They will do SO little to communicate what the new Xbox is and differentiate the name, thereโ€™s gonna be a few people thinking itโ€™s another Xbox One variant

    And Iโ€™m not sure they even have a big exclusive game or two to demonstrate that it isnโ€™t!

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    remember when notch left twitter that owned

    oh please tell me he's not welched on that pinky swear

    no he's still gone

    i was just remembering fondly when it happened

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    One thing that seems obvious to me is that Series should not be used as a generational signifier. In phones and cars and stuff, the series tells you the base model or line. Different models within the series will be low or high trim (cars) or low/high size/power (phones). But next year or next model year, you move on to the next series.

    Like, both boxes should be in the "20 Series" (or whatever name you pick). The 20 Series S, and the 20 Series X will be the new models out this year. When they later release a half-step console, they can call is a 20 Series Z. Or if they're ready to make a generational break, that's the 26 series, with its own S/X.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    https://youtu.be/4u0p6IvlBNs

    Indie platform fighter Smash City leaves early access on the 17th
    despite looking super janky and goofy, it's probably the most technical of the recent Smash-likes, lots of insane combos and movement tech, and a ton of content like single-player story modes for every character and minigames. It's a really cool game, with a neat roster made up of a bunch of weirdo characters from Ludosity's other games like Ittle Dew, Ijji, and Princess Remedy.
    also you can play as a buff fish who throws dumbbells at people
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdcz0piywFE
    https://youtu.be/2Vz3YylvWIs?t=52

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    One thing that seems obvious to me is that Series should not be used as a generational signifier. In phones and cars and stuff, the series tells you the base model or line. Different models within the series will be low or high trim (cars) or low/high size/power (phones). But next year or next model year, you move on to the next series.

    Like, both boxes should be in the "20 Series" (or whatever name you pick). The 20 Series S, and the 20 Series X will be the new models out this year. When they later release a half-step console, they can call is a 20 Series Z. Or if they're ready to make a generational break, that's the 26 series, with its own S/X.

    I get the feeling that MS is just going to keep going with this in teh future. I.e. Series X-2.

    (x-men united)

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: ยป
    I wish there was a Xbox Series E...

    Xbox Series E

    Xbox E

    X Box E

    Ex Boxxy

    Boxxy

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    X X X
    B B B
    O O O
    X X X

    S E X

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