I don't view any execution as just, especially one executed by an occupying force, because fucking duh
but whites were absolutely massacred
If you'd like, I could get a little more in depth on the various ways in which "massacres by natives" have been inflated, exaggerated, and fabricated. We could also have the conversation about, "What alternative course of action could have been taken to resist a genocidal occupying force that didn't give a fuck about the families they massacred on their mission to steal land?"
But before going down either of those forks, I would want to know if you're actually interested in the conversation, and I would also wanna know why you're appearing to try and "both sides" the Indian Wars on Indigenous People's Day
I don't view any execution as just, especially one executed by an occupying force, because fucking duh
but whites were absolutely massacred
If you'd like, I could get a little more in depth on the various ways in which "massacres by natives" have been inflated, exaggerated, and fabricated. We could also have the conversation about, "What alternative course of action could have been taken to resist a genocidal occupying force that didn't give a fuck about the families they massacred on their mission to steal land?"
But before going down either of those forks, I would want to know if you're actually interested in the conversation, and I would also wanna know why you're appearing to try and "both sides" the Indian Wars on Indigenous People's Day
If you'd like, I could get a little more in depth on the various ways in which "massacres by natives" have been inflated, exaggerated, and fabricated.
I know this, which is why any history source with any credibility will give approximate numbers unless solid evidence is presented otherwise
what is known is that settlements were targeted by a small confederation of dakota bands, civilians were killed, and then the settlements were burned
also, that this wasn't a monolithic movement and was a group of dakota who were furious over treaties not being honored and being refused supplies
We could also have the conversation about, "What alternative course of action could have been taken to resist a genocidal occupying force that didn't give a fuck about the families they massacred on their mission to steal land?"
it was no win scenario and I don't know what I would do, but killing civilians is not something I'm gonna be ok with
nor am I gonna try and justify manifest destiny cause what the fuck it was blatantly genocidal
But before going down either of those forks, I would want to know if you're actually interested in the conversation, and I would also wanna know why you're appearing to try and "both sides" the Indian Wars on Indigenous People's Day
I am an indigenous people, and I very much understand your defensiveness in this but please don't start on bad faith because that's not how I'm approaching this
I have very mixed feelings about Lincoln, but I think there's more negative than positive there if only by a little
Like him explicitly not being an abolitionist, not thinking black and white people deserved equal rights, and thinking that that after slavery was ended black people should largely leave the country
To be fair this was actually the predominantly popular opinion among free blacks at the time too. (It lost its popularity around the end of the civil war, as the (ultimately ineffectual) Reconstructionist protective measures for freedmen in the South was seen as sign that it might be possible to nudge American society ever so slightly into a more just model. (Plus, when millions of slaves were actually freed it became very quickly apparent that attempting to resettle all of them, even if they were cooperative, was completely impossible.) It was considered inconceivable to even most radicals that white Americans would ever let Africans Americans be, slavery or not, without having both metaphorical and very literal nooses around their necks.
The Reconstructionist measures were not ineffectual, they were abandoned.
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Well, in Japan when the Space Invaders arcade machine was released it was so popular that it resulted in a coin shortage, and that has some how become warped into a symbol of Antifa's demands for change.
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Well, in Japan when the Space Invaders arcade machine was released it was so popular that it resulted in a coin shortage, and that has some how become warped into a symbol of Antifa's demands for change.
Chico...
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Well, in Japan when the Space Invaders arcade machine was released it was so popular that it resulted in a coin shortage, and that has some how become warped into a symbol of Antifa's demands for change.
"We found a consistent pattern of racial differences in the formal recording of disciplinary actions in three different major metropolitan cities: Chicago, Philadelphia and Los Angeles," wrote a group of six management professors at the Indiana University Kelley School of Business. "Our results showed that Black officers were more likely to have recorded cases of misconduct, despite there being no difference between Black and white officers in the number of allegations made against them.
"We found a consistent pattern of racial differences in the formal recording of disciplinary actions in three different major metropolitan cities: Chicago, Philadelphia and Los Angeles," wrote a group of six management professors at the Indiana University Kelley School of Business. "Our results showed that Black officers were more likely to have recorded cases of misconduct, despite there being no difference between Black and white officers in the number of allegations made against them.
Any surprise?
Yeah, ACAB, but loyal bastards are groomed.
I'll help you with that paperwork.
Your numbers are fine.
I'll give you some off the books training, make you a good cop.
Didn't mean for it to sound so creepy. But when you think about it....
So in doing some research for a rhetorical analysis on The Soul of Man Under Socialism by Oscar Wilde, I learned about the Haymarket Massacre for the first time in my life.
The police have been doing this for 135 years, have been shown to the public that they do this shit, and people just don't give a fuck. Why?
oh wow, the Right really is buying into the Space Invaders thing, huh?
It tickles me that right wingers were god damn giddy because they thought they finally had a body they could point to as evidence of antifa killing people.
But WHOOPS, dude's a fucking Pinkerton. lmao
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So in doing some research for a rhetorical analysis on The Soul of Man Under Socialism by Oscar Wilde, I learned about the Haymarket Massacre for the first time in my life.
The police have been doing this for 135 years, have been shown to the public that they do this shit, and people just don't give a fuck. Why?
oh wow, the Right really is buying into the Space Invaders thing, huh?
It tickles me that right wingers were god damn giddy because they thought they finally had a body they could point to as evidence of antifa killing people.
But WHOOPS, dude's a fucking Pinkerton. lmao
Well there was that guy in Portland, they seem to have stopped talking about that one for some reason. Maybe they executed the suspect too quickly?
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predicating your argument that murdering civilians is not bad because the U.S. also did it is some real fucked up equivocation
and yes, massacres, unarmed civilians were murdered in their homes (the u.s. did this a whole lot during the Colorado wars)
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inarticulable disgust and guilt is about it
then it's incredibly bad faith to suggest I'm somehow cool with that
If you'd like, I could get a little more in depth on the various ways in which "massacres by natives" have been inflated, exaggerated, and fabricated. We could also have the conversation about, "What alternative course of action could have been taken to resist a genocidal occupying force that didn't give a fuck about the families they massacred on their mission to steal land?"
But before going down either of those forks, I would want to know if you're actually interested in the conversation, and I would also wanna know why you're appearing to try and "both sides" the Indian Wars on Indigenous People's Day
Basically this. I don't think you can say it was just when it's so obviously hypocritical.
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what is known is that settlements were targeted by a small confederation of dakota bands, civilians were killed, and then the settlements were burned
also, that this wasn't a monolithic movement and was a group of dakota who were furious over treaties not being honored and being refused supplies
it was no win scenario and I don't know what I would do, but killing civilians is not something I'm gonna be ok with
nor am I gonna try and justify manifest destiny cause what the fuck it was blatantly genocidal I am an indigenous people, and I very much understand your defensiveness in this but please don't start on bad faith because that's not how I'm approaching this
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
oh wow, the Right really is buying into the Space Invaders thing, huh?
The Reconstructionist measures were not ineffectual, they were abandoned.
ben garrison will believe anything that is untrue
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Chico...
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
The pinkerton who shot that fascist had that tatoo on his wrist and its spun off into some conspiracy as proof he was actually antifa
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Chico, this is next level, even for you.
Bravo!
Panopticon was a really important album to me, OK‽
It's all objective and intent and motivation for you isn't it
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Any surprise?
To be fair... I would be totally okay with making 80s video game characters far left icons.
Yeah, ACAB, but loyal bastards are groomed.
I'll help you with that paperwork.
Your numbers are fine.
I'll give you some off the books training, make you a good cop.
Didn't mean for it to sound so creepy. But when you think about it....
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
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The police have been doing this for 135 years, have been shown to the public that they do this shit, and people just don't give a fuck. Why?
It tickles me that right wingers were god damn giddy because they thought they finally had a body they could point to as evidence of antifa killing people.
But WHOOPS, dude's a fucking Pinkerton. lmao
It's also why they moved Labor day to some random Monday in September
because they're working as intended
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Well there was that guy in Portland, they seem to have stopped talking about that one for some reason. Maybe they executed the suspect too quickly?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/14/activist-portland-shooting-michael-reinoehl-police
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
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