I definitely get the feeling Bowser's Fury started as late Odyssey DLC. So late that Nintendo crunched the numbers and figured enough people have moved on from Odyssey and DLC won't have much impact. I'm sure DLC purchases drop at a steady rate the further a game gets from initial release. Better to tack it on 3D World, giving everyone more incentive to buy the port.
I definitely get the feeling Bowser's Fury started as late Odyssey DLC. So late that Nintendo crunched the numbers and figured enough people have moved on from Odyssey and DLC won't have much impact. I'm sure DLC purchases drop at a steady rate the further a game gets from initial release. Better to tack it on 3D World, giving everyone more incentive to buy the port.
The Wii U sold poorly enough that this is practically a new Mario game.
I definitely get the feeling Bowser's Fury started as late Odyssey DLC. So late that Nintendo crunched the numbers and figured enough people have moved on from Odyssey and DLC won't have much impact. I'm sure DLC purchases drop at a steady rate the further a game gets from initial release. Better to tack it on 3D World, giving everyone more incentive to buy the port.
The Wii U sold poorly enough that this is practically a new Mario game.
We're fast approaching XCX being the only game still stuck there.
I definitely get the feeling Bowser's Fury started as late Odyssey DLC. So late that Nintendo crunched the numbers and figured enough people have moved on from Odyssey and DLC won't have much impact. I'm sure DLC purchases drop at a steady rate the further a game gets from initial release. Better to tack it on 3D World, giving everyone more incentive to buy the port.
The Wii U sold poorly enough that this is practically a new Mario game.
The 3D World port will sell very well regardless. I think the idea of Bowser’s Fury is to get more former Wii U owners to double dip, not to rope in people who didn’t bother with Wii U.
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Now on to Eagle Island and Atalier Ryza for my RPG finally.
I definitely get the feeling Bowser's Fury started as late Odyssey DLC. So late that Nintendo crunched the numbers and figured enough people have moved on from Odyssey and DLC won't have much impact. I'm sure DLC purchases drop at a steady rate the further a game gets from initial release. Better to tack it on 3D World, giving everyone more incentive to buy the port.
The Wii U sold poorly enough that this is practically a new Mario game.
The 3D World port will sell very well regardless. I think the idea of Bowser’s Fury is to get more former Wii U owners to double dip, not to rope in people who didn’t bother with Wii U.
Let's be honest, a 3D World port without Bowser's Fury would sell at least three times the Wii U version, easily.
Granted Nintendo's doing a pretty decent job of offering new material for Wii U ports, but let's not underestimate how the shit Wii U sales makes them the lowest of the lowest-hanging fruit.
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I loved 3D World so I'm already going to double dip. Bowser's Fury looks like Odyssey Lite with 3D World mechanics... could be pretty fantastic.
I want to know so much more about Bowser's Fury. How extensive is it? Is it just that one (pretty large) world? Is it static or are elements (like collectibles, enemy placement, placement of the doodads you need to collect to unlock Super Sai-nyan Mario) randomized?
It certainly looks like a mode that will spawn a ton of very cool speedruns.
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See, this is how I feel about Mario games, I want them all on the Switch. I want a New Super Mario Collection with DS, 2, and Wii. I know people hate on them, but I love them all.
See, this is how I feel about Mario games, I want them all on the Switch. I want a New Super Mario Collection with DS, 2, and Wii. I know people hate on them, but I love them all.
Fuck it. Yeah. Nintendo signed that deal, they should own it. "Yeah, look at this fucked up shit. Oh, you beat Wand of Gamelon? Congratulations! Here's your exclusive Breath of the Wild 2 demo!"
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I'd really like to see (and kind of expect, honestly) a Zelda 3D All-Stars with Ocarina, Majora's Mask (maybe), Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess. I'd like to see Skyward Sword make the jump because I love it but I don't know how that would work.
Oh and Metroid Prime trilogy already because why hasn't that happened yet?
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I would actually like to see stuff like that still available somehow. That Mario hotel puzzleish game wasn't going to set the world on fire but it wasn't completely terrible
I still want a port of Yoshi's Wooly World. That was such a lovely game and while crafted world was adorable... It wasn't really the same.
Agreed. They should've opted to wait and port/update it for Switch instead of 3DS.
Yeah. Like crafted world was charming but it wasn't exactly hard. I remember Wooly World being a: way way bigger, and b: hard enough I was quite happy to switch to winged Yoshi for most of the late game cos ooof
Matt pulled this completely out of his ass (the press release bit). I need you all to laugh along with me anytime someone mentions this so called translation.
I really hope that this version of Bowser is referenced in Smash Ultimate somehow. I know recently they added a variation of Cloud's Final Smash based on what costume he is wearing, maybe they could do the same with Bowser.
I really hope that this version of Bowser is referenced in Smash Ultimate somehow. I know recently they added a variation of Cloud's Final Smash based on what costume he is wearing, maybe they could do the same with Bowser.
I wouldn't be surprised if at best we get a spirit
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I really hope that this version of Bowser is referenced in Smash Ultimate somehow. I know recently they added a variation of Cloud's Final Smash based on what costume he is wearing, maybe they could do the same with Bowser.
I wouldn't be surprised if at best we get a spirit
I still want a port of Yoshi's Wooly World. That was such a lovely game and while crafted world was adorable... It wasn't really the same.
Agreed. They should've opted to wait and port/update it for Switch instead of 3DS.
Yeah. Like crafted world was charming but it wasn't exactly hard. I remember Wooly World being a: way way bigger, and b: hard enough I was quite happy to switch to winged Yoshi for most of the late game cos ooof
I actually like that the Yoshi games are very easy. As a parent, it's really cool that there is a game series from Nintendo that is very approachable to kids. My 5-year old loves Yoshi and it feels like the right amount of challenge for her. Now if I could only get her to stop being afraid of getting hit or dying. :biggrin:
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Yeah, I like that too, having an entire series or two (Yoshi and Kirby) devoted to cute easy gameplay means they can more confidently deliver interesting, challenging gameplay in other series. I feel like Mario has gotten a lot better on this front, perhaps for this reason.
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Yeah even if I do every mission that is still available it bring me to 14 of the 15 missions needed, super lame.
I really hope that this version of Bowser is referenced in Smash Ultimate somehow. I know recently they added a variation of Cloud's Final Smash based on what costume he is wearing, maybe they could do the same with Bowser.
I kinda doubt it. I was hoping to see Meowser in ultimate, but they stuck with Giga Bowser.
Fuck it. Yeah. Nintendo signed that deal, they should own it. "Yeah, look at this fucked up shit. Oh, you beat Wand of Gamelon? Congratulations! Here's your exclusive Breath of the Wild 2 demo!"
Wand of Gamelon is easy mode. Try Zelda’s Adventure. That one isn’t even goofy and weird. It is so horrifically dull that even trying to laugh at how bad it is is like trying to squeeze blood from a stone. They could release BOTW2 a year early, and lock it behind Zelda’s Adventure, and it would stay right where it is.
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I really hope that this version of Bowser is referenced in Smash Ultimate somehow. I know recently they added a variation of Cloud's Final Smash based on what costume he is wearing, maybe they could do the same with Bowser.
I kinda doubt it. I was hoping to see Meowser in ultimate, but they stuck with Giga Bowser.
Fuck it. Yeah. Nintendo signed that deal, they should own it. "Yeah, look at this fucked up shit. Oh, you beat Wand of Gamelon? Congratulations! Here's your exclusive Breath of the Wild 2 demo!"
Wand of Gamelon is easy mode. Try Zelda’s Adventure. That one isn’t even goofy and weird. It is so horrifically dull that even trying to laugh at how bad it is is like trying to squeeze blood from a stone. They could release BOTW2 a year early, and lock it behind Zelda’s Adventure, and it would stay right where it is.
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The Wii U sold poorly enough that this is practically a new Mario game.
We're fast approaching XCX being the only game still stuck there.
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The 3D World port will sell very well regardless. I think the idea of Bowser’s Fury is to get more former Wii U owners to double dip, not to rope in people who didn’t bother with Wii U.
Now on to Eagle Island and Atalier Ryza for my RPG finally.
Slowly but surely. :P
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Let's be honest, a 3D World port without Bowser's Fury would sell at least three times the Wii U version, easily.
Granted Nintendo's doing a pretty decent job of offering new material for Wii U ports, but let's not underestimate how the shit Wii U sales makes them the lowest of the lowest-hanging fruit.
It certainly looks like a mode that will spawn a ton of very cool speedruns.
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Also need Galaxy 2 on the Switch still.
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At least Wind Waker HD.
Agreed. They should've opted to wait and port/update it for Switch instead of 3DS.
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Put World of WarCraft on the Switch.
That was the time Nintendo kept porting all sorts of stuff to the 3DS as an emergency plan B in case Switch flopped.
Which wasn't inherently wrong since no one could have honestly predicted the Switch would work, though it arguably killed Alphadream in the process.
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But Odyssey had platforming? Really good platforming.
Fuck it. Yeah. Nintendo signed that deal, they should own it. "Yeah, look at this fucked up shit. Oh, you beat Wand of Gamelon? Congratulations! Here's your exclusive Breath of the Wild 2 demo!"
Oh and Metroid Prime trilogy already because why hasn't that happened yet?
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Yeah. Like crafted world was charming but it wasn't exactly hard. I remember Wooly World being a: way way bigger, and b: hard enough I was quite happy to switch to winged Yoshi for most of the late game cos ooof
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Actually I would guess Bowser Jr. as a partner is using some of Cappy's 2 player mode code.
Matt pulled this completely out of his ass (the press release bit). I need you all to laugh along with me anytime someone mentions this so called translation.
I wouldn't be surprised if at best we get a spirit
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I actually like that the Yoshi games are very easy. As a parent, it's really cool that there is a game series from Nintendo that is very approachable to kids. My 5-year old loves Yoshi and it feels like the right amount of challenge for her. Now if I could only get her to stop being afraid of getting hit or dying. :biggrin:
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Yeah even if I do every mission that is still available it bring me to 14 of the 15 missions needed, super lame.
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I kinda doubt it. I was hoping to see Meowser in ultimate, but they stuck with Giga Bowser.
Wand of Gamelon is easy mode. Try Zelda’s Adventure. That one isn’t even goofy and weird. It is so horrifically dull that even trying to laugh at how bad it is is like trying to squeeze blood from a stone. They could release BOTW2 a year early, and lock it behind Zelda’s Adventure, and it would stay right where it is.
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