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GOP Sen. Mike Rounds tells me he wants a bipartisan commission focused on just 1/6 — and that if other issues need to be investigated they can decide that later. “We clearly had an insurrection on that particular day, and I don't want it to be swept under any rug,” he says.
Interesting. Rounds was NOT one of the seven senators who voted for impeachment. If we assume they all vote for this commission, then we're already at eight and only would need two more to get it past cloture/filibuster.
He's also a dyed in the wool conservative (anti abortion, anti climate, anti prison reform, anti ACA).
So... now a RINO?
Can't believe they let a communist into the republican party.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
GOP Sen. Mike Rounds tells me he wants a bipartisan commission focused on just 1/6 — and that if other issues need to be investigated they can decide that later. “We clearly had an insurrection on that particular day, and I don't want it to be swept under any rug,” he says.
Interesting. Rounds was NOT one of the seven senators who voted for impeachment. If we assume they all vote for this commission, then we're already at eight and only would need two more to get it past cloture/filibuster.
McConnell has expressed support for it. And given how much trust I have in McConnell following through on his word... we only need two more to get past Cloture.
The sad thing is, most of the reports of malfeasance and stupidity won't matter.
The people that believe it was a good idea will ignore it, and focus on what Trump and this company say, not what they can prove. And if the media do a fucking "Barr interpreting the Mueller report" straight acceptance of the initial "findings", I'm gonna fucking scream.
The people who thought it was a stupid idea will have their suspicions confirmed. Everything about this has been a clusterfuck.
The people who aren't paying attention, will just see the reports, and mistake the blowing of smoke, for fire. That there was a controversy about the election, and that the controversy (at best) has not been resolved.
New York Attorney General Letitia James is joining the Manhattan district attorney's office in a criminal investigation of the Trump Organization, James' office said Tuesday.
The attorney general office's investigation into the Trump Organization, which has been underway since 2019, will also continue as an ongoing civil probe, but the office recently informed Trump Organization officials of the criminal component.
"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA," James' spokesman Fabien Levy told CNN. "We have no additional comment."
New York Attorney General Letitia James is joining the Manhattan district attorney's office in a criminal investigation of the Trump Organization, James' office said Tuesday.
The attorney general office's investigation into the Trump Organization, which has been underway since 2019, will also continue as an ongoing civil probe, but the office recently informed Trump Organization officials of the criminal component.
"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA," James' spokesman Fabien Levy told CNN. "We have no additional comment."
I believe that's the tax evasion/money laundering related ones. So it's likely only coup related in that Trump needed the Presidency to avoid prosecution, and maybe if it's found that it's Russian related.
The whole Trump Organization is clearly a web of criminality that can be tied to everything, but isn't necessarily always about everything.
GOP Sen. Mike Rounds tells me he wants a bipartisan commission focused on just 1/6 — and that if other issues need to be investigated they can decide that later. “We clearly had an insurrection on that particular day, and I don't want it to be swept under any rug,” he says.
Interesting. Rounds was NOT one of the seven senators who voted for impeachment. If we assume they all vote for this commission, then we're already at eight and only would need two more to get it past cloture/filibuster.
McConnell has expressed support for it. And given how much trust I have in McConnell following through on his word... we only need two more to get past Cloture.
I'd have trouble being a Democrat in the Senate, because the restraint they must have to not be screaming at Manchin and Sinema (and anyone else they know to be holdouts), "HOW THE FUCK CAN'T YOU SEE HOW IN BAD FAITH THESE FUCKERS ARE?" at least once an hour, isn't in my psychological makeup.
I'd have trouble being a Democrat in the Senate, because the restraint they must have to not be screaming at Manchin and Sinema (and anyone else they know to be holdouts), "HOW THE FUCK CAN'T YOU SEE HOW IN BAD FAITH THESE FUCKERS ARE?" at least once an hour, isn't in my psychological makeup.
Last Thursday Kyrsten Sinema literally asked Chuck Schumer how they were going to pass election reform. (Link).
She might be as thick-headed as Ron Johnson.
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Democrats: "Hey we can do this commission and subpoena people on our own but let's make the commission worse and weaker so you can get in on this."
Republicans: "Kindly neck yourselves."
Democrats: *Whelmed, reflexive hand-wringing*
I'd have trouble being a Democrat in the Senate, because the restraint they must have to not be screaming at Manchin and Sinema (and anyone else they know to be holdouts), "HOW THE FUCK CAN'T YOU SEE HOW IN BAD FAITH THESE FUCKERS ARE?" at least once an hour, isn't in my psychological makeup.
Last Thursday Kyrsten Sinema literally asked Chuck Schumer how they were going to pass election reform. (Link).
She might be as thick-headed as Ron Johnson.
I don't read it as her being unaware of the situation, I read it as her being sadistic.
[Jigsaw filter] "You have all the information needed to save them, Mr. Senator. Their lives are in your hands."
Yeah to yell at Sinema they’d need to find her first
Anyway, the GOP backtracked on this because Trump told them to
I love how they declared it slanted and unfair after they already completely neutralized it by getting most of the remands about the thing. It's not like it was going to investigate anything, given it wasn't allowed to issue subpoenas.
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On phone, but Capital Police released a letter laying into the GOP for resisting an inquiry
On phone, but Capital Police released a letter laying into the GOP for resisting an inquiry
The irony of the Blue Lives Matter fuckknuckles siding against police, shows that like the military, farmers and rural constituents, those are only alliances of convenience, easily bussable.
On phone, but Capital Police released a letter laying into the GOP for resisting an inquiry
The irony of the Blue Lives Matter fuckknuckles siding against police, shows that like the military, farmers and rural constituents, those are only alliances of convenience, easily bussable.
They only like the "blank" that do what they want them to do
There, there's a mad lib for every contradiction Republicans have
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Yeah to yell at Sinema they’d need to find her first
Anyway, the GOP backtracked on this because Trump told them to
I love how they declared it slanted and unfair after they already completely neutralized it by getting most of the remands about the thing. It's not like it was going to investigate anything, given it wasn't allowed to issue subpoenas.
I think for this investigation, subpoena power wasn't particularly important. There are plenty of people happy to talk to them about what happened, and the Justice Department can likely get at the ones who are reluctant for the criminal inquiry.
Yeah to yell at Sinema they’d need to find her first
Anyway, the GOP backtracked on this because Trump told them to
I love how they declared it slanted and unfair after they already completely neutralized it by getting most of the remands about the thing. It's not like it was going to investigate anything, given it wasn't allowed to issue subpoenas.
I think for this investigation, subpoena power wasn't particularly important. There are plenty of people happy to talk to them about what happened, and the Justice Department can likely get at the ones who are reluctant for the criminal inquiry.
There are plenty of people not happy to talk to them about what happened who would need to be compelled to, and the Republicans are actively shielding them.
They'd do so anyway, but without subpoenas they don't need to worry about being on the record about it.
So 35 republicans voted for the inquiry, pretty bipartisan
Still short on cloture, but the Dems can just make the GOP eat that cause they don’t need the senate to actually subpoena people
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I love the special counsel idea as leverage.
Just, go back room with Mitch and tell him this is happening and he has a choice in the matter - he can let the commission happen, or Merrick fkn Garland, a man who goes after white supremacists for breakfast, can appoint a special counsel to dig in with unilateral access.
Put him in a corner in private, make him squirm, and watch him fold. He absolutely would.
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And then appoint a special counsel anyways.
Fuck you, Mitch.
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So 35 republicans voted for the inquiry, pretty bipartisan
Still short on cloture, but the Dems can just make the GOP eat that cause they don’t need the senate to actually subpoena people
True, but the Supreme Court decided the House has no authority to enforce their subpoena's, so that's a moot point now.
It's the Senate or nothing.
Probably the only person who they might want to testify who wouldn’t comply is McCarthy and I don’t know if I’d be too broken up about him eating all the shit that would come with that
So 35 republicans voted for the inquiry, pretty bipartisan
Still short on cloture, but the Dems can just make the GOP eat that cause they don’t need the senate to actually subpoena people
True, but the Supreme Court decided the House has no authority to enforce their subpoena's, so that's a moot point now.
It's the Senate or nothing.
Probably the only person who they might want to testify who wouldn’t comply is McCarthy and I don’t know if I’d be too broken up about him eating all the shit that would come with that
McCarthy is like McConnell, he's stuck purely because he wants power and prestige. As well as fearing a white cross burning on his lawn if he doesn't play his part.
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Mitch is a coward at heart. The Senate didn't go full deep during the coup, he can, should, and wouldfeed McCarthy et all into the woodchipper to save himself.
Mitch is a coward at heart. The Senate didn't go full deep during the coup, he can, should, and wouldfeed McCarthy et all into the woodchipper to save himself.
Yup, making the GOP Senate directly in conflict to the GOP House and having to choose sides is probably our best chance at the entire Republican party burning down.
"Manchin says he believes there’s still a “very, very good chance” the Senate passes a bill forming a 1/6 commission. But he seemed resistant to changing House-passed bill, noting Democrats already made several concessions. “How much more can you do?”"
- Igor Bobic is a political reporter for HuffPo.
You can vote to remove the filibuster, you feckless shit.
Seriously, it's like that Onion article about mass shootings. "No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens". He has the power to do so, and McConnell only gets away with this shit because he's confident Manchin won't move on removing the filibuster.
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Can't believe they let a communist into the republican party.
McConnell has expressed support for it. And given how much trust I have in McConnell following through on his word... we only need two more to get past Cloture.
Turns out they're just too incompetent to handle a RAID array. They had all the data but their settings were wrong so it wasn't visible
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/politics/arizona-republican-audit-database-not-deleted/
LMFAO!
The sad thing is, most of the reports of malfeasance and stupidity won't matter.
The people that believe it was a good idea will ignore it, and focus on what Trump and this company say, not what they can prove. And if the media do a fucking "Barr interpreting the Mueller report" straight acceptance of the initial "findings", I'm gonna fucking scream.
The people who thought it was a stupid idea will have their suspicions confirmed. Everything about this has been a clusterfuck.
The people who aren't paying attention, will just see the reports, and mistake the blowing of smoke, for fire. That there was a controversy about the election, and that the controversy (at best) has not been resolved.
Cyber Ninjas' only weakness: Computers.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-criminal-probe/index.html
I believe that's the tax evasion/money laundering related ones. So it's likely only coup related in that Trump needed the Presidency to avoid prosecution, and maybe if it's found that it's Russian related.
The whole Trump Organization is clearly a web of criminality that can be tied to everything, but isn't necessarily always about everything.
My clock is running smoothly.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-comes-out-against-jan-6-commission-imperiling-its-chances-of-becoming-law/2021/05/19/60de1f52-b8b3-11eb-a5fe-bb49dc89a248_story.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated
Last Thursday Kyrsten Sinema literally asked Chuck Schumer how they were going to pass election reform. (Link).
She might be as thick-headed as Ron Johnson.
Republicans: "Kindly neck yourselves."
Democrats: *Whelmed, reflexive hand-wringing*
I don't read it as her being unaware of the situation, I read it as her being sadistic.
[Jigsaw filter] "You have all the information needed to save them, Mr. Senator. Their lives are in your hands."
Anyway, the GOP backtracked on this because Trump told them to
I love how they declared it slanted and unfair after they already completely neutralized it by getting most of the remands about the thing. It's not like it was going to investigate anything, given it wasn't allowed to issue subpoenas.
The irony of the Blue Lives Matter fuckknuckles siding against police, shows that like the military, farmers and rural constituents, those are only alliances of convenience, easily bussable.
On the list of stupid things the GOP has done, pissing off the people responsible for their protection has got to be up there
see how the republicans like that shit
They only like the "blank" that do what they want them to do
There, there's a mad lib for every contradiction Republicans have
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I think for this investigation, subpoena power wasn't particularly important. There are plenty of people happy to talk to them about what happened, and the Justice Department can likely get at the ones who are reluctant for the criminal inquiry.
Can the justice department still appoint a special prosecutor unilaterally?
Coup coup ba-doop
Coup ba-doop
Coup ba-doop ba-doop ba-doop
There are plenty of people not happy to talk to them about what happened who would need to be compelled to, and the Republicans are actively shielding them.
They'd do so anyway, but without subpoenas they don't need to worry about being on the record about it.
Still short on cloture, but the Dems can just make the GOP eat that cause they don’t need the senate to actually subpoena people
Just, go back room with Mitch and tell him this is happening and he has a choice in the matter - he can let the commission happen, or Merrick fkn Garland, a man who goes after white supremacists for breakfast, can appoint a special counsel to dig in with unilateral access.
Put him in a corner in private, make him squirm, and watch him fold. He absolutely would.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Fuck you, Mitch.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
True, but the Supreme Court decided the House has no authority to enforce their subpoena's, so that's a moot point now.
It's the Senate or nothing.
Probably the only person who they might want to testify who wouldn’t comply is McCarthy and I don’t know if I’d be too broken up about him eating all the shit that would come with that
McCarthy is like McConnell, he's stuck purely because he wants power and prestige. As well as fearing a white cross burning on his lawn if he doesn't play his part.
This is the way.
Mitch is a coward at heart. The Senate didn't go full deep during the coup, he can, should, and wouldfeed McCarthy et all into the woodchipper to save himself.
Yup, making the GOP Senate directly in conflict to the GOP House and having to choose sides is probably our best chance at the entire Republican party burning down.
"Manchin says he believes there’s still a “very, very good chance” the Senate passes a bill forming a 1/6 commission. But he seemed resistant to changing House-passed bill, noting Democrats already made several concessions. “How much more can you do?”"
- Igor Bobic is a political reporter for HuffPo.
You can vote to remove the filibuster, you feckless shit.
Seriously, it's like that Onion article about mass shootings. "No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens". He has the power to do so, and McConnell only gets away with this shit because he's confident Manchin won't move on removing the filibuster.