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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Refrigerator-senpai x Lamp-senpai OTP

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Has anyone watched this animo on Netflix called Record of Ragnarok?

    I only checked out some clips to see if it was well animated since it's basically just "what if Warriors Orochi, but without ANY story whatsoever," and it was... not, to put it mildly. That's the extent of my knowledge of it though. Very, very terrible fight animation in a fighting show.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Has anyone watched this animo on Netflix called Record of Ragnarok?

    I only checked out some clips to see if it was well animated since it's basically just "what if Warriors Orochi, but without ANY story whatsoever," and it was... not, to put it mildly. That's the extent of my knowledge of it though. Very, very terrible fight animation in a fighting show.

    If you heard it's got no story whatsoever then damn Netflix fucked it up badly.

    Records of Ragnarok manga has the story as being the gods have decided it's time to pull the plug on humanity, so one of the Valkyries uses an old bylaw that lets humanity choose champions and fight the gods in one on one battles to the death to avoid extinction. This results in matchups like Sasaki Koujirou vs Poseidon, Adam vs Zeus, and Jack the Ripper vs Heracles. Each of the fights is interspersed with some history on the combatants, the myths and legends of the gods and the lives of the humans. In fact it's those character bits that give weight to the combatants and their fight.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    I think the problem I heard with this adaptation is it cuts all of the story parts the manga version has, but I haven't watched it and might be thinking of a different fighty show

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  • WearingGlassesWearingGlasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    How could they mess up the fighting, that's basically the main draw of the whole series! A giant toy box of famous gods and men where the author just bashes them together!

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  • HellboreHellbore A bad, bad man Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    I've only seen one clip, but the "fight" shown was just a series of still images with some generic fight noises over the top.

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  • J-bobJ-bob J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    ph blake wrote: »
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    So, this Guts guy has a big sword and that's his whole thing?

    He's also very angry

    But what really makes it interesting is sometimes he's not.

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  • ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    edited April 23
  • simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    Yeah I love how expressive the faces are in the manga

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    We interrupt this shonen arc to bring you an unrelated filler arc because we were catching up to the manga.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Yeesh, the anime is just not doing the manga justice at that point.

    Although I don't know if its possible to do that... those faces aren't even trying.

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    After a bit you get his origin story in which he is a smaller angry young man. Then he grows up to be a less angry full grown man. Then he becomes the very very angry big man of the present.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    The Spider anime's finale has been delayed to an unknown date due to production issues.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    Lars wrote: »
    The Spider anime's finale has been delayed to an unknown date due to production issues.

    I'm real glad I bought all the books, as I was looking forward to seeing all the cliffhangers resolved.

    E: Spider is a Crunchyroll anime, so does that mean they're financing it?

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    rhylith wrote: »
    That sounds about right.

    This is happening too often. Anime makes money hand over fist now - give these shows the budget and time to avoid this shit already!

    Doesn't anime actually make negative money, because they have to pay the TV stations to air it? Shows are just advertisements for the manga, merch and movies.

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  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Zombie Land Saga S2 Finale

    ...uh....

    (Massive Spoilers)
    Seriously, it's wtf territory.
    In the last ten seconds, an Independence Day alien spaceship shows up out of nowhere and blows everything up.

    The End.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    rhylith wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    That sounds about right.

    This is happening too often. Anime makes money hand over fist now - give these shows the budget and time to avoid this shit already!

    Doesn't anime actually make negative money, because they have to pay the TV stations to air it? Shows are just advertisements for the manga, merch and movies.

    If anime made negative money you wouldn’t have Netflix pushing hard into it and Sony purchasing crunchyroll for a billion dollars.

    CREATING anime makes negative money, and relies on massive exploitation. Grabbing the rights and reselling it to a global market is quite profitable, and last I saw, represented something like half the revenue of the entire anime industry in recent years. It's your standard Walmart-esque racket.

    That said, it's also WAAAAAAAYYYY the fuck cheaper to make animated shows. Even high budget studios/shows like PA Works are only about a $2 million per season production cost. You could have made half a dozen 13 episode series for the same budget that a single episode of the last season of Game of Thrones had. It's largely a speculation market, same as for Japan. 95% will be unprofitable aside from the advertising, but for the one that hits gold? Rolling in the dough.
    According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Anyway as I was saying

    I love Way of the Househusband

    Honestly, it's not striking me as funny as I would have expected (on the 5th manga volume). Like, I don't think it nails punchlines very hard and it's also too obvious what the joke will end up being from the first beat of a particular story. I'm comparing it to stuff like Cromartie High School and Spy X Family, and I like those a lot better. Not trying to be a bummer about this, I really did expect it to be a fave just from the premise.

    Oh I know absolutely nothing about the Mangas I'm just watching the Netflix adaptation.

    The animation style is initially kinda weird but I very quickly grew to enjoy it. It just really works with this particular show for some reason.

    It's very wholesome and low key despite the absurdity of it.

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  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    vague berserk premature ending thoughts
    I don't think i'm ever not going to be sad about miura's passing, but with a few weeks to think about it, i am strangely content with where guts ended up. it was likely a minor respite along the way before everyone got thrown back into the shit, but at least there was some closure and the possibility of a peaceful future

    definitely wish we could have seen a bit more of where the supporting cast's stories were going, that's the part i feel less confident in projecting an ending for.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    That sounds about right.

    This is happening too often. Anime makes money hand over fist now - give these shows the budget and time to avoid this shit already!

    Doesn't anime actually make negative money, because they have to pay the TV stations to air it? Shows are just advertisements for the manga, merch and movies.

    If anime made negative money you wouldn’t have Netflix pushing hard into it and Sony purchasing crunchyroll for a billion dollars.

    CREATING anime makes negative money, and relies on massive exploitation. Grabbing the rights and reselling it to a global market is quite profitable, and last I saw, represented something like half the revenue of the entire anime industry in recent years. It's your standard Walmart-esque racket.

    That said, it's also WAAAAAAAYYYY the fuck cheaper to make animated shows. Even high budget studios/shows like PA Works are only about a $2 million per season production cost. You could have made half a dozen 13 episode series for the same budget that a single episode of the last season of Game of Thrones had. It's largely a speculation market, same as for Japan. 95% will be unprofitable aside from the advertising, but for the one that hits gold? Rolling in the dough.
    According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.

    Doesn't streaming enters anywhere on this conversation? Like, Crunchyroll was founded 15 years ago, and the streaming market only got bigger, with things like Netflix Japan picking up these last few years.

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  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited April 23
  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    That sounds about right.

    This is happening too often. Anime makes money hand over fist now - give these shows the budget and time to avoid this shit already!

    Doesn't anime actually make negative money, because they have to pay the TV stations to air it? Shows are just advertisements for the manga, merch and movies.

    If anime made negative money you wouldn’t have Netflix pushing hard into it and Sony purchasing crunchyroll for a billion dollars.

    CREATING anime makes negative money, and relies on massive exploitation. Grabbing the rights and reselling it to a global market is quite profitable, and last I saw, represented something like half the revenue of the entire anime industry in recent years. It's your standard Walmart-esque racket.

    That said, it's also WAAAAAAAYYYY the fuck cheaper to make animated shows. Even high budget studios/shows like PA Works are only about a $2 million per season production cost. You could have made half a dozen 13 episode series for the same budget that a single episode of the last season of Game of Thrones had. It's largely a speculation market, same as for Japan. 95% will be unprofitable aside from the advertising, but for the one that hits gold? Rolling in the dough.
    According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.

    Doesn't streaming enters anywhere on this conversation? Like, Crunchyroll was founded 15 years ago, and the streaming market only got bigger, with things like Netflix Japan picking up these last few years.

    Streaming has exploded (just in general) the last few years, but it also started from being a tiny, niche thing. 2021 is probably going to be the first year that all global overseas EVERYTHING manages to surpass domestic revenue, although who knows with covid still going hot. Domestic streaming is only about the same as merchandise, and a fifth of "pachinko."
    https://aja.gr.jp/download/anime-industry-report-2020-summary?wpdmdl=1691&refresh=60d516de5e41f1624577758

    My experience with Japanese business culture (game localization, not anime/manga) is that they are deeply, deeply distrustful of dealing with people outside Japan and see translation as encouraging piracy. I'm sure attitudes are shifting, but I would assume that the production companies are mainly the ones pushing overseas stuff and getting all the money from it.

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    That sounds about right.

    This is happening too often. Anime makes money hand over fist now - give these shows the budget and time to avoid this shit already!

    Doesn't anime actually make negative money, because they have to pay the TV stations to air it? Shows are just advertisements for the manga, merch and movies.

    If anime made negative money you wouldn’t have Netflix pushing hard into it and Sony purchasing crunchyroll for a billion dollars.

    CREATING anime makes negative money, and relies on massive exploitation. Grabbing the rights and reselling it to a global market is quite profitable, and last I saw, represented something like half the revenue of the entire anime industry in recent years. It's your standard Walmart-esque racket.

    That said, it's also WAAAAAAAYYYY the fuck cheaper to make animated shows. Even high budget studios/shows like PA Works are only about a $2 million per season production cost. You could have made half a dozen 13 episode series for the same budget that a single episode of the last season of Game of Thrones had. It's largely a speculation market, same as for Japan. 95% will be unprofitable aside from the advertising, but for the one that hits gold? Rolling in the dough.
    According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million). He also made it clear that most anime can't recoup this expense, and the industry rests on the windfall of a few big hits. In a July interview, Takayuki Nagatani, producer of Shirobako (itself an anime about anime production), claimed that his show cost 500 million yen (or $4 million) for 24 episodes. In order to make it sell, he had to "advertise it, plan events, and make merchandise." Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million). "Expecting to make that up through disc sales alone is a hopeless business model, but that's how almost all late night anime are," he writes.

    Doesn't streaming enters anywhere on this conversation? Like, Crunchyroll was founded 15 years ago, and the streaming market only got bigger, with things like Netflix Japan picking up these last few years.

    Streaming has exploded (just in general) the last few years, but it also started from being a tiny, niche thing. 2021 is probably going to be the first year that all global overseas EVERYTHING manages to surpass domestic revenue, although who knows with covid still going hot. Domestic streaming is only about the same as merchandise, and a fifth of "pachinko."
    https://aja.gr.jp/download/anime-industry-report-2020-summary?wpdmdl=1691&refresh=60d516de5e41f1624577758

    My experience with Japanese business culture (game localization, not anime/manga) is that they are deeply, deeply distrustful of dealing with people outside Japan and see translation as encouraging piracy. I'm sure attitudes are shifting, but I would assume that the production companies are mainly the ones pushing overseas stuff and getting all the money from it.

    No, what I mean, there's Japanese streaming services already, besides Netflix Japan. Like, Redo of Healer made headlines for topping one of them (sigh). So, the old "but disc sales" is just looking more outdated each day.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    My hard copy of the new (finally!) Haruhi novel, The Intuition of Haruhi Suzumiya finally came in today. It's kind of nuts that this series is finally continuing, I hope the author has it in him to keep going and that this just wasn't a strange one off (if you're unaware, the plotline never completed, the novels just went on hiatus for NINE years). In the very end, there's a special afterword about his memories with KyoAni, that was a sucker punch I did not see coming. I also appreciate that this one coming out led to a reissue of the entire series, so I was finally able to get a copy of the one that was impossibly pricy due to being out of print (Dissociation).

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Sorry, I'm not following. By the above (report in March 2021), streaming was a fairly small piece of the overall revenue for the industry, only 68.5 billion yen revenue total, compared to eg 320 billion yen for pachinko. It looks to me like domestic streaming is cannibalizing DVD sales, as one's going up as the other's dropping in roughly similar amounts, but that's just eyeballing with no rigorous analysis. Not sure what you mean by "but disc sales." Reference to the Manabi Line schtick? But even that was in the low thousands and more a metric with high correlation to general popularity and other stuff than meant as a straight line to revenue.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-06-25/shonen-jump-gets-reality-show-to-find-next-star-manga-creator/.174414
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    MILLION TAG, a new "battle audition" show for discovering "the next star manga creator," on Friday. The eight-episode program will debut on the official YouTube channel for Shueisha's Weekly Shonen Jump magazine next Friday, July 2 at 6:00 p.m. (5:00 a.m. EDT).

    The winning manga creator will receive a prize of 5 million yen (about US$45,000), the opportunity to serialize their manga on Shonen Jump+, a compiled book volume of that manga, and an anime adaptation of the manga.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    One of the tasks/challenges/games/whatever should be drawing manga for 7 days straight without sleeping, to prepare the contestants for their new career.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Moth 13 wrote: »

    See that just makes me imagine them trying to do car things, and then Char just drops in with Sazabi. It's a very short movie as a result!

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    A contest where the prize is grueling labor seems fun

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    Maddoc wrote: »
    A contest where the prize is grueling labor seems fun

    The Tester, you say

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    rhylith wrote: »
    I would consider watching strip search anime edition.

    Phrasing!

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited April 23

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    Junji Ito created a summary manga for black & white horror movie "The Lighthouse" starring Robert Pattinson & Willem Dafoe that will be distributed in japanese cinemas to promote its theatrical release in Japan on July 9

    Image © Junji Ito, A24, Focus Features/Universal Pictures

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    rhylith wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I would consider watching strip search anime edition.

    Phrasing!

    It is literally a penny arcade show and it was good.

    Several of the contestants were able to build fanbases and careers from the show, not just the winner.

    Some of the contestants even got to do uncredited work for Penny Arcade!

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited April 23

    Manga Mogura RE
    @MangaMoguraRE
    Junji Ito created a summary manga for black & white horror movie "The Lighthouse" starring Robert Pattinson & Willem Dafoe that will be distributed in japanese cinemas to promote its theatrical release in Japan on July 9

    Image © Junji Ito, A24, Focus Features/Universal Pictures

    God, I really hope the "HARK, TRITON" rant is illustrated in this.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited April 23
    Really excited for the finales of both MegaloBox 2 and OddTaxi, they've both been right up my alley and MB2 is an active improvement on the first season IMO

    Depending on how slow next season is I might give Vivy, To Your Eternity, or 86 another shot

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  • akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    Some of the contestants drew forum avatars for me on commission.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    I have a framed sketch of my cat that Abby did at the first PAX South on my kitchen wall.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited April 23
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    Started watching Demon Slayer, just finished episode 16. So far Zenitsu might be the deadliest character, in that he’s very close to killing the whole show!

    Yeah... he's a big oof. He does get a couple good scenes, but...

    On a related note, the movie's up on Funimation for streaming, so I watched that. It has minimal Zenitsu, and is good.

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