I don't miss the stores, or the renting, so much as the time when they existed.
I definitely miss the experience of just wandering the aisles and picking a couple of random movies based entirely on the cover that in this the age of the algorithm never appear in any of your homepage lists because they’re just outside of what the algorithm thinks you want.
I do not miss trying to get a new release to rent. Just a wall of empty boxes and disappointment.
I recall walking into Blockbuster with a sort of top 5 list of what I'd like to see and finding they were ALL checked out or maybe they never had that one at all. And while you could get some good deals renting games, often times they'd be damaged beyond being playable any longer. Don't really miss that era at all, streaming and Gamepass are flatly superior.
I recall walking into Blockbuster with a sort of top 5 list of what I'd like to see and finding they were ALL checked out or maybe they never had that one at all. And while you could get some good deals renting games, often times they'd be damaged beyond being playable any longer. Don't really miss that era at all, streaming and Gamepass are flatly superior.
Yeah when I get wistful for video game stores mostly I just miss my youth.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
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Local video stores were always so much better than Blockbuster anyway. Especially the one where your mom was old friends with the owner and they’d let you check out SNES games before they put them out for the other customers.
That might be an overly specific scenario.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
Local video stores were always so much better than Blockbuster anyway. Especially the one where your mom was old friends with the owner and they’d let you check out SNES games before they put them out for the other customers.
That might be an overly specific scenario.
Mario Kart 6 came out while I was working at Hollywood Video, and that first prestreet weekend where I rented it I can assume literally everybody playing it online also worked at a video rental store. Prestreeting video games was a lot of fun, and I don't think it happens any more.
I don't, only because by the time I briefly tried it, the business end was in shambles and it was all about pushing various bundles on the customers. Including like... snack bundles? Who would buy their snacks at Blockbuster instead of at Wal-Mart or the gas station where they're much cheaper?
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This census thing is harder than I thought, since the prompt wasn't like categorically best but movie you could watch endlessly I'm trying to go with the first thing that pops into my head. There's definitely a fair amount of categories I am just blanking on an answer for. Almost wanna cheat and put Addams Family Values as a holiday movie.
Local video stores were always so much better than Blockbuster anyway. Especially the one where your mom was old friends with the owner and they’d let you check out SNES games before they put them out for the other customers.
That might be an overly specific scenario.
My local video store in the early/mid 90s regularly had farm animals wandering around, it was pretty weird. One time I walked in and there was just a dog sitting up on the bar stool behind the counter. No humans in sight.
Pretty sure I rented my first Final Fantasy game there.
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It's honestly possible. I think more than once we had to walk in the back and find the tapes ourselves and just leave some money because no humans were present.
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
The joy of renting a game cart a second time and realizing your save file was still there
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No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
I rented Texas Chainsaw Massacre entirely based on this box art.
This census thing is harder than I thought, since the prompt wasn't like categorically best but movie you could watch endlessly I'm trying to go with the first thing that pops into my head. There's definitely a fair amount of categories I am just blanking on an answer for. Almost wanna cheat and put Addams Family Values as a holiday movie.
Makes me wish I kept a letterboxd.
huh? it is a holiday movie
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This census thing is harder than I thought, since the prompt wasn't like categorically best but movie you could watch endlessly I'm trying to go with the first thing that pops into my head. There's definitely a fair amount of categories I am just blanking on an answer for. Almost wanna cheat and put Addams Family Values as a holiday movie.
Makes me wish I kept a letterboxd.
huh? it is a holiday movie
It's not actually about or even set on Thanksgiving, the summer camp director is just a weirdo/racist.
As a kid there was some hole in the wall video store (that was sketchy as hell) two miles away from home that me, my brother, and whatever local kids were around any given day that summer would ride to on bikes while we tried to triangulate the ice cream truck's location and get a break from our parents
I used chore money to rent Clock Tower, Soul Reaver 1, Driver, and Fight Club nonstop for like, three solid months that summer
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
This is nowhere near the same experience as wandering a video store aisle.
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
There's a visceral difference between "One of one million items on a store page" and "a box that can grab your eye, that you can pick up and flip over"
One is an abstract with no weight or significance, a bunch of imaginary objects jockeying for position in the algorithm. The other is a physical object engaging all of your senses, there on the shelf through a collection of arbitrary factors that make its availability in this moment something special.
One's more convenient and, arguably, leads you to better games. But the other is more... Mystical, almost. Important, surprising, given weight.
VHS and DVD lithographs generally have a ton of money put behind their design to specifically be eye-catching and have a lot of information on them a person could glean with a quick glance. While some streaming services give you more information, it takes longer to get there, and sometimes you can't find the information you want at all.
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No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
There's a visceral difference between "One of one million items on a store page" and "a box that can grab your eye, that you can pick up and flip over"
One is an abstract with no weight or significance, a bunch of imaginary objects jockeying for position in the algorithm. The other is a physical object engaging all of your senses, there on the shelf through a collection of arbitrary factors that make its availability in this moment something special.
One's more convenient and, arguably, leads you to better games. But the other is more... Mystical, almost. Important, surprising, given weight.
It's kind of the same reason why I love physical books
It is easier and more convenient in many, many ways to just read stuff on my phone. It's got a decently-big screen, I can adjust the type size, I don't need to carry stuff around if I'm on the go
But a physical book, even a shitty paperback, is something. It is an object you can hold, that is capable of art and beauty, that has history
Admittedly I find books more romantic objects than shitty cardboard VHS boxes, but y'know!
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
There's a visceral difference between "One of one million items on a store page" and "a box that can grab your eye, that you can pick up and flip over"
One is an abstract with no weight or significance, a bunch of imaginary objects jockeying for position in the algorithm. The other is a physical object engaging all of your senses, there on the shelf through a collection of arbitrary factors that make its availability in this moment something special.
One's more convenient and, arguably, leads you to better games. But the other is more... Mystical, almost. Important, surprising, given weight.
And I said it in my original post but let me stress it again: a streaming service is not the same thing because it is programmed to cater to you specifically. What you see on your Recommended tabs is not the same as what I will see. Hell, even if we put the exact same term into the search bar, there is no guarantee it will return the same results presented in the same order for the both of us!
A rental store is laid out such that every person in the store has access to the same browsing experience.
My old rental store used to have a computer that ran on its own weird proprietary software, somewhere between DOS and Wordperfect. Anyway, if you put in your phone number, it brought up a list of the movies you'd rented from the store, and you could rate them 1-5 (I think 5, maybe it went to 10). And after you'd rated like 20 movies, it would start to recommend things at you in the genre of your choice.
Anyway that computer is what recommended Big Trouble in Little China to me, and I owe it my entire lifetime's worth of gratitude.
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
There's a visceral difference between "One of one million items on a store page" and "a box that can grab your eye, that you can pick up and flip over"
One is an abstract with no weight or significance, a bunch of imaginary objects jockeying for position in the algorithm. The other is a physical object engaging all of your senses, there on the shelf through a collection of arbitrary factors that make its availability in this moment something special.
One's more convenient and, arguably, leads you to better games. But the other is more... Mystical, almost. Important, surprising, given weight.
I don't want to be argumentative for no reason, so I'll probably stop after this one but this is just... magical thinking.
The list on the streaming page is a series of movie cover images just the same as the movie boxes on the physical store shelf. The movie boxes do not engage "all of your senses", they engage two of them (sight and touch). All of the movies pretty much weigh the same and if they smell differently, you should consider leaving the store. Streaming services will play previews of the movie usually, so that's engaging more senses that actually matter to the movie watching experience. You flip over the movie to see a synopsis, maybe who's in it or a cool screenshot. Clicking on a movie on a streaming service produces this same information, if it grabbed your eye, you click on it and get that extra bit. The list of movies aren't "imaginary objects", they are movies, pressing play will produce a movie right then and there. Recording the movie to a DVD doesn't make it better somehow. If your argument was something like "VHS box art was more fun than streaming service thumbnails", I'd probably agree, but some streaming services literally use box art, so it's not a super strong argument. Similarly, you could say "I liked the weird curation of the local movie store that exposed me to stuff," but my counter to that would be that the LGBT section of my local store would be, "The store does not stock movies like that because management is casually bigoted against such things."
Younger generations have no concept of the movie store, and they would not be impressed by this description. Maybe they would be amused by the novelty, but they would not be impressed by a limited catalog that you have to drive to go see, that introduces the concept of scarcity and increases the price of the transaction on every level. I grew up with movie stores and as stated, even worked at one for a while. I'm not trying to diminish what a fun experience that was at the time, I just think the benefits are being overstated or at least not stated in a way that makes sense to me. I waste a lot of time on streaming services curating lists of movies it might be worth watching (instead of just being decisive and watching something), so the experience of "looking for something to spark interest" is 100% still there, I don't know how you'd say it's not.
I think I miss rental stores mostly for the nostalgic childhood memories of picking out movies and games to rent, was a pretty different experience to digital storefronts
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I’m all for easier access to media, 100%, but there are some intangibles in the local video store that you don’t get on streaming. For one, at the local video shops, outside of the abundance of new release big hits, the collection is largely curated by a single person. The lady that ran my local video store / pizza shop was super into horror. Slashers and occult stuff, specifically. Like, seriously just triple the collection of even larger stores. Lots of obscure stuff, straight to video stuff, just all kinds of cool shit. So that means that a whole generation of kids on that end of my small rural town in Texas got super into occult movies and slashers. It’s a unique experience that you just don’t get with immediate access to any movie on the planet. Is it better? Is it worse? I dunno. But it gives a different perspective.
It’s kind of the same reason I still regularly hit up this one local record store to this day. Despite Spotify having everything in the store and then some, I know that the dude who runs it likes good shit, and I know I can dive into the bin at the front of his store of new unfiled records to get a sampling of stuff he’s into, and that I’m going to love almost all of it. I trust him almost unconditionally. No fucking Grateful Dead to be found.
It’s kind of like that. The human aspect of it that an algorithm can replace, but it can never replicate.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
You are describing something as being the same and I am telling you that my brain does not recognize it, primarily for the way Pooro described. It's different, it's visceral. It's the difference between wandering a library and coming across a book and looking at shit in a catalogue. They are completely foreign experiences within my brain and any attempt to try and say "No, they are" is trying to enforce your own world view in place of my own.
It's the difference between seeing a tragedy on TV and seeing that tragedy up close and in person. It's different.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I can also tell you from my days working at Hollywood Video that we had patrons who would come in and ask the staff for recommendations, almost exclusively. They knew which of us to ask about which genres, and when multiple of us liked the same movie, it was almost always a surefire hit.
I will never forget the mom who came in with a gaggle of like 12-13 year old girls who wanted a scary movie for the birthday party sleepover, but they'd already seen everything in the horror section. My coworker and I both said, "Alien" at the same time, they rented it, and came back like 3 hours later and asked for more recommendations for movies to rent. It was the only time I've felt like I had a superpower, recommending my favorite movies to people, and getting paid to do it.
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No streaming site out there can properly replicate the experience of walking around a video rental store, for many reasons but one that stands out to me is that while everything is organized by genre and they can have a wall with New and Featured Specials or whatever, the rental stores' inventory by and large is not curated to try and cater to you specifically, and that's actually a good thing when it comes to expanding people's media horizons!
Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
You are describing something as being the same and I am telling you that my brain does not recognize it, primarily for the way Pooro described. It's different, it's visceral. It's the difference between wandering a library and coming across a book and looking at shit in a catalogue. They are completely foreign experiences within my brain and any attempt to try and say "No, they are" is trying to enforce your own world view in place of my own.
It's the difference between seeing a tragedy on TV and seeing that tragedy up close and in person. It's different.
This is why I've gotten back into vinyl and CD. There is something nice about physically flipping through the albums, maybe the title grabs my attention, or the artwork, and then actually having to pull it out, set up the turntable and play the music. Its more...present? Real? Its nice being able to handle these things with my hands. My setup does allow for streaming, and I do stream with it, but it really is not the same as having those tactile interactions with things.
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My copy of Ogre Battle 64 and Front Mission 3 are from rental places, not necessarily Blockbuster
i forget what the other company was going to be named but it was something stupid
The day after I returned it.
I definitely miss the experience of just wandering the aisles and picking a couple of random movies based entirely on the cover that in this the age of the algorithm never appear in any of your homepage lists because they’re just outside of what the algorithm thinks you want.
I do not miss trying to get a new release to rent. Just a wall of empty boxes and disappointment.
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Yeah when I get wistful for video game stores mostly I just miss my youth.
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That might be an overly specific scenario.
Mario Kart 6 came out while I was working at Hollywood Video, and that first prestreet weekend where I rented it I can assume literally everybody playing it online also worked at a video rental store. Prestreeting video games was a lot of fun, and I don't think it happens any more.
I don't, only because by the time I briefly tried it, the business end was in shambles and it was all about pushing various bundles on the customers. Including like... snack bundles? Who would buy their snacks at Blockbuster instead of at Wal-Mart or the gas station where they're much cheaper?
Makes me wish I kept a letterboxd.
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My local video store in the early/mid 90s regularly had farm animals wandering around, it was pretty weird. One time I walked in and there was just a dog sitting up on the bar stool behind the counter. No humans in sight.
Pretty sure I rented my first Final Fantasy game there.
Anyway I forgot Jon Lovitz was in A League of Their Own and he's delightful
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Sometimes you just went and wandered sections looking for shit that caught your eye. Can't replicate that with a screen.
I rented Texas Chainsaw Massacre entirely based on this box art.
huh? it is a holiday movie
It's not actually about or even set on Thanksgiving, the summer camp director is just a weirdo/racist.
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I used chore money to rent Clock Tower, Soul Reaver 1, Driver, and Fight Club nonstop for like, three solid months that summer
You definitely can? Go to a streaming service you've never used before, click on a genre tag and browse it, that's the same thing. This is a weird assertion, to me.
This is nowhere near the same experience as wandering a video store aisle.
There's a visceral difference between "One of one million items on a store page" and "a box that can grab your eye, that you can pick up and flip over"
One is an abstract with no weight or significance, a bunch of imaginary objects jockeying for position in the algorithm. The other is a physical object engaging all of your senses, there on the shelf through a collection of arbitrary factors that make its availability in this moment something special.
One's more convenient and, arguably, leads you to better games. But the other is more... Mystical, almost. Important, surprising, given weight.
It's kind of the same reason why I love physical books
It is easier and more convenient in many, many ways to just read stuff on my phone. It's got a decently-big screen, I can adjust the type size, I don't need to carry stuff around if I'm on the go
But a physical book, even a shitty paperback, is something. It is an object you can hold, that is capable of art and beauty, that has history
Admittedly I find books more romantic objects than shitty cardboard VHS boxes, but y'know!
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And I said it in my original post but let me stress it again: a streaming service is not the same thing because it is programmed to cater to you specifically. What you see on your Recommended tabs is not the same as what I will see. Hell, even if we put the exact same term into the search bar, there is no guarantee it will return the same results presented in the same order for the both of us!
A rental store is laid out such that every person in the store has access to the same browsing experience.
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Anyway that computer is what recommended Big Trouble in Little China to me, and I owe it my entire lifetime's worth of gratitude.
I don't want to be argumentative for no reason, so I'll probably stop after this one but this is just... magical thinking.
The list on the streaming page is a series of movie cover images just the same as the movie boxes on the physical store shelf. The movie boxes do not engage "all of your senses", they engage two of them (sight and touch). All of the movies pretty much weigh the same and if they smell differently, you should consider leaving the store. Streaming services will play previews of the movie usually, so that's engaging more senses that actually matter to the movie watching experience. You flip over the movie to see a synopsis, maybe who's in it or a cool screenshot. Clicking on a movie on a streaming service produces this same information, if it grabbed your eye, you click on it and get that extra bit. The list of movies aren't "imaginary objects", they are movies, pressing play will produce a movie right then and there. Recording the movie to a DVD doesn't make it better somehow. If your argument was something like "VHS box art was more fun than streaming service thumbnails", I'd probably agree, but some streaming services literally use box art, so it's not a super strong argument. Similarly, you could say "I liked the weird curation of the local movie store that exposed me to stuff," but my counter to that would be that the LGBT section of my local store would be, "The store does not stock movies like that because management is casually bigoted against such things."
Younger generations have no concept of the movie store, and they would not be impressed by this description. Maybe they would be amused by the novelty, but they would not be impressed by a limited catalog that you have to drive to go see, that introduces the concept of scarcity and increases the price of the transaction on every level. I grew up with movie stores and as stated, even worked at one for a while. I'm not trying to diminish what a fun experience that was at the time, I just think the benefits are being overstated or at least not stated in a way that makes sense to me. I waste a lot of time on streaming services curating lists of movies it might be worth watching (instead of just being decisive and watching something), so the experience of "looking for something to spark interest" is 100% still there, I don't know how you'd say it's not.
It’s kind of the same reason I still regularly hit up this one local record store to this day. Despite Spotify having everything in the store and then some, I know that the dude who runs it likes good shit, and I know I can dive into the bin at the front of his store of new unfiled records to get a sampling of stuff he’s into, and that I’m going to love almost all of it. I trust him almost unconditionally. No fucking Grateful Dead to be found.
It’s kind of like that. The human aspect of it that an algorithm can replace, but it can never replicate.
You are describing something as being the same and I am telling you that my brain does not recognize it, primarily for the way Pooro described. It's different, it's visceral. It's the difference between wandering a library and coming across a book and looking at shit in a catalogue. They are completely foreign experiences within my brain and any attempt to try and say "No, they are" is trying to enforce your own world view in place of my own.
It's the difference between seeing a tragedy on TV and seeing that tragedy up close and in person. It's different.
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I will never forget the mom who came in with a gaggle of like 12-13 year old girls who wanted a scary movie for the birthday party sleepover, but they'd already seen everything in the horror section. My coworker and I both said, "Alien" at the same time, they rented it, and came back like 3 hours later and asked for more recommendations for movies to rent. It was the only time I've felt like I had a superpower, recommending my favorite movies to people, and getting paid to do it.
This is why I've gotten back into vinyl and CD. There is something nice about physically flipping through the albums, maybe the title grabs my attention, or the artwork, and then actually having to pull it out, set up the turntable and play the music. Its more...present? Real? Its nice being able to handle these things with my hands. My setup does allow for streaming, and I do stream with it, but it really is not the same as having those tactile interactions with things.
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