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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    But Hahn there’s no such thing as a free lunch

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    "It isn't illegal if a computer does it" is a surprisingly common corporate strategy despite having no real legal foundation.

    I had payroll give me this exact excuse when I brought forward issues about a policy they had where the computer would occasionally zero out hours worked on a time card that were approved by a manager. I said specifically it was against Oregon state law to modify hours worked on a time card that were approved by both the employee and manager.

    "But the computer does it so it's not illegal"

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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
    But Hahn there’s no such thing as a free lunch

    You dont pay with money

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I just got a free sandwich. I’m at Ike’s, and the card reader thing is busted, so they said “Hey, it’s on the house”.

    I see what you're doing, CORPORATE SCAB

    *throws sandwich on ground*

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I just got a free sandwich. I’m at Ike’s, and the card reader thing is busted, so they said “Hey, it’s on the house”.

    I see what you're doing, SCAB

    *throws sandwich on ground*

    I was going to eat that! ;(

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    KamiroKamiro Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I just got a free sandwich. I’m at Ike’s, and the card reader thing is busted, so they said “Hey, it’s on the house”.

    I see what you're doing, SCAB

    *throws sandwich on ground*

    I was going to eat that! ;(

    you still can

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Atomika wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Oh jeez

    I just saw Sora on OpenAI


    I didn’t think Hollywood would be over so soon

    wtf

    …the Kingdom Hearts protagonist?

    OpenAI’s new prompt-generated video creator

    Two of the concept videos were essentially just movie trailer clips


    Gosh this feels big. This feels like a definitive end to our current understanding of moviemaking.

    It's significantly more impressive than previous video attempts but still really bad IMO, especially when you see how strongly it diverges from the prompts in some of their examples; "Photorealistic closeup video of two pirate ships battling each other as they sail inside a cup of coffee." gets you two plastic toy ships in a wide shot that aren't battling, have different colored sails on each side, and move seemingly independently of the coffee-cup-waves.

    E: Even the trailer one of a lady walking around Tokyo, while impressive in how well it follows the main woman, still has absolute nightmare abominations walking in the background.

    milski on
    I ate an engineer
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Right-- eat it off Ike's lap, capitalist pigdog

    Hm would a lapdog eat a sandwich whilst sprawled on the lap or would the sandwich be on the lap

    Capitalist pigdogs, discuss

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
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    Tumin wrote: »
    But Hahn there’s no such thing as a free lunch

    You dont pay with money

    What do you pay

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Oh jeez

    I just saw Sora on OpenAI


    I didn’t think Hollywood would be over so soon

    wtf

    …the Kingdom Hearts protagonist?

    OpenAI’s new prompt-generated video creator

    Two of the concept videos were essentially just movie trailer clips


    Gosh this feels big. This feels like a definitive end to our current understanding of moviemaking.

    It's significantly more impressive than previous video attempts but still really bad IMO, especially when you see how strongly it diverges from the prompts in some of their examples; "Photorealistic closeup video of two pirate ships battling each other as they sail inside a cup of coffee." gets you two plastic toy ships that aren't battling, have different colored sails on each side, and move seemingly independently of the coffee-cup-waves.

    Yeah but I doubt we’re far from prompt management software that can lock preferences and insert specific references of its own that would obviate a lot of those problems.

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    Thank goodness, I can just give up on ideas of moviemaking altogether.

    Wash over me, endless content. Nothing's real. Eat Arby's.

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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Right-- eat it off Ike's lap, capitalist pigdog

    Hm would a lapdog eat a sandwich whilst sprawled on the lap or would the sandwich be on the lap

    Capitalist pigdogs, discuss

    i see

    socialist pup play

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    All these visual media generative AIs need something better than text prompt input to be used for anything other than a novelty. You couldn't describe what you want to another human being in 20 words. What hope does this semi-literate AI have?

    That and uh, legal resolution to the training data question.

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    All these visual media generative AIs need something better than text prompt input to be used for anything other than a novelty. You couldn't describe what you want to another human being in 20 words. What hope does this semi-literate AI have?

    That and uh, legal resolution to the training data question.

    I think there are ones where you can draw/indicate visually where you want certain elements to be placed/moved to

    I swear I've seen that but I cannot remember from whom/where

    Steam, LoL: credeiki
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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
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    Tumin wrote: »
    But Hahn there’s no such thing as a free lunch

    You dont pay with money

    What do you pay

    Yacht club apes

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    AI generate me an Oscar worthy gay cowboy drama.

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    jmcdonaldjmcdonald I voted, did you? DC(ish)Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I just got a free sandwich. I’m at Ike’s, and the card reader thing is busted, so they said “Hey, it’s on the house”.

    I see what you're doing, CORPORATE SCAB

    *throws sandwich on ground*

    Zoidbergs sandwich rich portfolio just doubled in size baby

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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    jmcdonald wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    I just got a free sandwich. I’m at Ike’s, and the card reader thing is busted, so they said “Hey, it’s on the house”.

    I see what you're doing, CORPORATE SCAB

    *throws sandwich on ground*

    Zoidbergs sandwich rich portfolio just doubled in size baby

    Youre overweight!

    Tumin on
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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    I won't believe ai movie making is a thing until there's an actual subculture of it like there was with camcorders or flash video

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited February 16
    credeiki wrote: »
    All these visual media generative AIs need something better than text prompt input to be used for anything other than a novelty. You couldn't describe what you want to another human being in 20 words. What hope does this semi-literate AI have?

    That and uh, legal resolution to the training data question.

    I think there are ones where you can draw/indicate visually where you want certain elements to be placed/moved to

    I swear I've seen that but I cannot remember from whom/where

    Stable Diffusion allows for localized touchups, and Canva gives it a user-friendly AI GUI.

    That said, either Canva's implementation is terrible, or I'm bad at it, or both.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    All these visual media generative AIs need something better than text prompt input to be used for anything other than a novelty. You couldn't describe what you want to another human being in 20 words. What hope does this semi-literate AI have?

    That and uh, legal resolution to the training data question.

    IMO, the training data question is probably something where AI is on more comfortable ground than you might think. I see a pretty convincing way to incorporate broad 1A protections into "can my program look at something that is publicly available?" There's a pretty big risk that any attempt to limit or constrain training data for an AI, at the input phase, would get blown up as a First Amendment issue.

    Where AI needs to really worry (again, IMO) is on output. There's already some legal precedent for the idea that non-human actors cannot benefit from broad IP / copyright style protections, notably the "monkey selfie" lawsuit that said no, monkeys don't have these rights those are for humans only.

    Without some way for AI output to get IP protection, these programs are at substantial risk of creating gigantic systems that produce huge amounts of art and writing and content that is completely unusable in any commercial context because doing so would substantially invalidate any intellectual rights you had to the output.

    For now it is a pretty big unresolved question. There really isn't a good framework for creating IP-type rights for an AI program, and the industry is just kind of pretending the issue isn't going to come up.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    I mean, it can’t be that difficult to write a program that will translate toggles of cinematic preferences with 3D sets models and character movement into a set of prompt-generating keywords

    That sound orders of magnitude easier than developing the actual AI

    Atomika on
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    House of Ninjas is a really fun show

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    I have a thought bubbling around my head and it's a portmanteau of The OC and Baudrillard

    Welcome to the OC of the Real

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    I still think AI is still ultimately constrained by its training data—and it’ll be obnoxiously heteronormative, whatever it is

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    i don't think you guys are giving enough credit to how huge and important this tech is

    haven't you ever wanted proof of something but didn't have evidence? or make porno of somebody who doesn't do porno

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    zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    I assume the holy grail of AI is high quality on-demand porn video generation, right?

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    I assume the holy grail of AI is high quality on-demand porn video generation, right?

    Oh baby caress me with your 6 fingers and 3 arms that are not connected to your shoulders.

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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
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    Tumin wrote: »
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    Tumin wrote: »
    But Hahn there’s no such thing as a free lunch

    You dont pay with money

    What do you pay

    Yacht club apes

    Too rich

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
    No its to simulate Nick Oferman's daughter

    NO JESUS SIMS

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    I heard free lunch

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    PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    I assume the holy grail of AI is high quality on-demand porn video generation, right?

    The legal disputes that will arise when AI fully embraces porn generation are going to be pretty wild. There's so many things that will simultaneously go wrong in so many directions.

    Two goats enter, one car leaves
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    So many things are already going so wrong in so many directions

    I mean I can't really think of a thing where it's going right

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    So many things are already going so wrong in so many directions

    I mean I can't really think of a thing where it's going right
    they're making a new dragon's dogma

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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
    My diiiiiiii

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    So many things are already going so wrong in so many directions

    I mean I can't really think of a thing where it's going right

    Quid's retiring. Let's all focus on that and the hallucinogens waiting for me back home.

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    TuminTumin Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    So many things are already going so wrong in so many directions

    I mean I can't really think of a thing where it's going right

    Quid's retiring. Let's all focus on that and the hallucinogens waiting for me back home.

    What about those poor saps whonget a new commander

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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    AI art has its issues but I’m about as worried of it taking over the movie industry as a whole as I am worried about the Singularity

    You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Shark's in the water, our shark.
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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Eddy wrote: »
    Right-- eat it off Ike's lap, capitalist pigdog

    Hm would a lapdog eat a sandwich whilst sprawled on the lap or would the sandwich be on the lap

    Capitalist pigdogs, discuss

    i see

    socialist pup play

    First of all, horses champ at the bit

    Eddy on
    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited February 16
    Eddy wrote: »
    So many things are already going so wrong in so many directions

    I mean I can't really think of a thing where it's going right

    The democratization of cinema

    At the cost of the entire industry

    Atomika on
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