As if she were some kind of fucking healthy alternative to your typical breakfast meats.
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*turns on news*
*sees media spin*
*cries*
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As if she were some kind of fucking healthy alternative to your typical breakfast meats.
"Hillary Clinton: The other other white meat"
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I'll give it a week to see if superdelegates react. If they don't react strongly one way or the other, I'll wait for the IN/NC primaries. Then I'm reposting that music video of all the puppets singing for Margaret Thatcher to resign. The resemblance to Hillary's position is somewhat striking.
Please don't, I had nightmares for a week.
Aw, don't say that, it was the primary source of my political education and satirical until I was eleven.
i'm just going to try avoiding all news sites and channels for the next week and a half
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Wise move. The big three were all asking things like, "Has the tide turned now? Is Obama in trouble? Is Hillary making her comeback?"
I was worried that the media spin for any non-trivial Hillary win would be that the fucking Comeback Kid was kicking ass and taking names, and based on the few minutes I saw this morning, that's exactly the case. I hope the meme dies in a fire and gets pooped on.
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That photo says more about Clinton supporters than anything else ever could.
Idiots.
Yeah, not a fan of the blanket dismissals.
We'll need those "idiots" in Indiana and Oregon and West Virginia and we'll sure as shit need them in the general election. Demeaning ain't a great idea. Neither is being a sore loser.
I'm just sayin, I'm disappointed too, but I don't feel like taking it out on other people that share my core beliefs.
Well, it generally takes a few days before reality sets in and everyone remembers that she really doesn't have a realistic way of winning. Same thing happened after TX/OH, I expect the same thing to happen here. Also, if I hear one more thing about working class white people, I'm going to punch someone in the face. Those guys can fuck off. If Obama loses in November, I'm not just blaming Bill and Hillary, I'm blaming them. It's their fucking fault that we have Bush now and it'll be their fault if we have Bush III.
That photo says more about Clinton supporters than anything else ever could.
Idiots.
Yeah, not a fan of the blanket dismissals.
We'll need those "idiots" in Indiana and Oregon and West Virginia and we'll sure as shit need them in the general election. Demeaning ain't a great idea. Neither is being a sore loser.
I'm just sayin, I'm disappointed too, but I don't feel like taking it out on other people that share my core beliefs.
ANYONE who hangs more than 50% of their body out of a moving vehicle in what appears to be a zealous attempt to show their support of someone. Is. An. Idiot.
If Hillary won by the same margin in every remaining primary, she still wouldn't have enough delegates to surpass Obama. Right now she has to win at by at least 30% in every remaining state to have enough.
I'm pretty sure the "comeback kid" angle is going to fade in the next couple days as this becomes apparent.
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That photo says more about Clinton supporters than anything else ever could.
Idiots.
Yeah, not a fan of the blanket dismissals.
We'll need those "idiots" in Indiana and Oregon and West Virginia and we'll sure as shit need them in the general election. Demeaning ain't a great idea. Neither is being a sore loser.
I'm just sayin, I'm disappointed too, but I don't feel like taking it out on other people that share my core beliefs.
I really didn't mean anything by posting the picture except that the face of that... person... looks disquietingly non-human.
It haunts me.
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Apparently, if you include FL and MI, Hillary leads the popular vote. Of course, no one but Hillary includes FL and MI, but... still. Ugh.
And if you dont include the caucuses, Im guessing.
Yeah, the number they're using includes FL and MI but leaves out the caucuses in IA, NV, ME, and WA, none of which reported actual vote totals.
If you're willing to estimate the vote from those four states, Obama's ahead by 200,000 votes even with FL and MI. But due to the difficulties of estimating those votes, and the stupidity of including vote totals from a state where one candidate wasn't even on the ballot, all of this is pointless wankery.
Caucuses don't count because caucuses ain't natural. They was man-made like the Incredible Hulk.
It's in the bible. Noah didn't take no caucuses with him on the ark, so caucuses ain't natural.
They also don't release vote totals, so you need to guesstimate them (you can do it fairly accurately somehow). This makes it convenient for the Clinton team to leave them out.
The problem with this spin isn't just that it needlessly extends the race. What happens is that it gives uninformed Hillary voters a totally wrong perspective. Clinton's not losing - she's the comeback kid! So what happens when when she drops out in like a month (or worse, take it to convention and oh god oh god don't talk about it)? All those voters are going to feel betrayed, are going to think Obama stole the election from her, when in fact he already fucking won. And that will hurt us in November.
The Clinton campaign cares more about her winning than they do about the Democrats winning. Apparently so do 25% of her supporters. President McCain, here we come.
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I think once people get the message out that it's better to have Obama in the Oval office rather than a corpse that expels gaseous Bush doctrines they'll come around.
The Clinton campaign cares more about her winning than they do about the Democrats winning. Apparently so do 25% of her supporters. President McCain, here we come.
I wonder how many of that 25% are motivated by some kind of irrational feminist identity politics, and could be placated by an Obama VP like Sebelius.
The Clinton campaign cares more about her winning than they do about the Democrats winning. Apparently so do 25% of her supporters. President McCain, here we come.
I wonder how many of that 25% are motivated by some kind of irrational feminist identity politics, and could be placated by an Obama VP like Sebelius.
Not many, I'd think. Sebelius isn't the woman they want.
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I think it was decidedly telling that she won Michigan against uncommitted by about the same margin she won PA.
Really?
really?
That would almost be an awesome factoid, except that it can be spun in the opposite direction: "Obama is roughly as popular as 'Nobody'."
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That photo says more about Clinton supporters than anything else ever could.
Idiots.
Yeah, not a fan of the blanket dismissals.
We'll need those "idiots" in Indiana and Oregon and West Virginia and we'll sure as shit need them in the general election. Demeaning ain't a great idea. Neither is being a sore loser.
I'm just sayin, I'm disappointed too, but I don't feel like taking it out on other people that share my core beliefs.
ANYONE who hangs more than 50% of their body out of a moving vehicle in what appears to be a zealous attempt to show their support of someone. Is. An. Idiot.
That's not dismissive. That's fact.
Hahaha, yes, I agree, that one person is an idiot. Fortunately, Obama won't need to campaign for his vote, since he will soon be torn in half by a stop sign.
The Clinton campaign cares more about her winning than they do about the Democrats winning. Apparently so do 25% of her supporters. President McCain, here we come.
I wonder how many of that 25% are motivated by some kind of irrational feminist identity politics, and could be placated by an Obama VP like Sebelius.
Not many, I'd think. Sebelius isn't the woman they want.
"She's (not) Our Girl!"
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I think it was decidedly telling that she won Michigan against uncommitted by about the same margin she won PA.
Really?
really?
That would almost be an awesome factoid, except that it can be spun in the opposite direction: "Obama is roughly as popular as 'Nobody'."
Or, only slightly less depressing, that Obama is as popular as 'Anybody but Clinton, for God's sake.'
I mean, truthfully, that number means that almost as many people went out in heavy storms to tell Clinton to fuck off as went to actually vote for her, which is a much happier number, but that interpretation is beyond the understanding of the expensive hair-pieces that run the MSM.
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Don't be ridicolous. She has no hope of winning the nomination and isn't in the lead in the popular vote. She isn't even in the lead in the national poll. There's no way the super delegates are going to vote for her, as they'd absolutely destroy the democratic party and pretty much hand McCain the Presidency.
I think it was decidedly telling that she won Michigan against uncommitted by about the same margin she won PA.
Really?
really?
That would almost be an awesome factoid, except that it can be spun in the opposite direction: "Obama is roughly as popular as 'Nobody'."
Or, only slightly less depressing, that Obama is as popular as 'Anybody but Clinton, for God's sake.'
I mean, truthfully, that number means that almost as many people went out in heavy storms to tell Clinton to fuck off as went to actually vote for her, which is a much happier number, but that interpretation is beyond the understanding of the expensive hair-pieces that run the MSM.
Which is sad, because a part of me wants to think that they really aren't that retarded and it's all just an act. But all facts seem to point in the other direction with few, Chuck Todd related, exceptions.
So I have to wonder about revotes. Wouldn't having two huge presidential campaigns wandering around a state with its mob pretty much turn a state in to a money machine? It seems like MI and FL paying for a revote isn't that big a deal since it'll bring much more to the state.
Don't be ridicolous. She has no hope of winning the nomination and isn't in the lead in the popular vote. She isn't even in the lead in the national poll. There's no way the super delegates are going to vote for her, as they'd absolutely destroy the democratic party and pretty much hand McCain the Presidency.
Sigh. Silly media is silly.
I the bbc... they presented the facts... there was no "and Hillary Clinton rawx muh sawx" or "Obama is the second coming of Black Jesus"
These are the stats, these are the quotes, this is the situation.
I'm sad that this is refreshing to me.
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Woah, 60% of democratic voters were women in PA? I thought it would be closer to the 47% I saw earlier in the thread.
So I have to wonder about revotes. Wouldn't having two huge presidential campaigns wandering around a state with its mob pretty much turn a state in to a money machine? It seems like MI and FL paying for a revote isn't that big a deal since it'll bring much more to the state.
Yeah, except the Clinton campaign leaves a trail of debt in it's wake.
When I think that there are thousands of politicians Obama could have easily smoked and run laughing all the way to the White House in this election year, I weep because instead we get this self-serving fake-smiling poll-calculating hatchet man. It's like a nightmare.
This election, even with a mediocre candidate, would have gone to the dems on the sheer basis of Bush's ineptitude. So we get a good candidate, just to make sure it's clinched. Then we get a historical candidate. Then another. I think that Stewart was right - we've overshot too far. I don't think we've overshot so far that we'll lose, but we overshot so badly that it's going to be close, I fear.
Why can't someone I like just crush the opposition once in a while? Shit, this is why I play video games - I want my guy to DESTROY on his path to the goal. I want to ride the wave of victory on a surfboard made of ass-kicking. Why does it always have to be close?
When I think that there are thousands of politicians Obama could have easily smoked and run laughing all the way to the White House in this election year, I weep because instead we get this self-serving fake-smiling poll-calculating hatchet man. It's like a nightmare.
This election, even with a mediocre candidate, would have gone to the dems on the sheer basis of Bush's ineptitude. So we get a good candidate, just to make sure it's clinched. Then we get a historical candidate. Then another. I think that Stewart was right - we've overshot too far. I don't think we've overshot so far that we'll lose, but we overshot so badly that it's going to be close, I fear.
Why can't someone I like just crush the opposition once in a while? Shit, this is why I play video games - I want my guy to DESTROY on his path to the goal. I want to ride the wave of victory on a surfboard made of ass-kicking. Why does it always have to be close?
So when the made-for-TV movie comes out in a few years, they won't have to change much to make it compelling.
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As if she were some kind of fucking healthy alternative to your typical breakfast meats.
*sees media spin*
*cries*
"Hillary Clinton: The other other white meat"
Aw, don't say that, it was the primary source of my political education and satirical until I was eleven.
They couldn't fit the full slogan on the sign: "The Smart Choice For Dumbasses Who Hang Outside The Window Of a Moving Vehicle".
i'm just going to try avoiding all news sites and channels for the next week and a half
I was worried that the media spin for any non-trivial Hillary win would be that the fucking Comeback Kid was kicking ass and taking names, and based on the few minutes I saw this morning, that's exactly the case. I hope the meme dies in a fire and gets pooped on.
Yeah, not a fan of the blanket dismissals.
We'll need those "idiots" in Indiana and Oregon and West Virginia and we'll sure as shit need them in the general election. Demeaning ain't a great idea. Neither is being a sore loser.
I'm just sayin, I'm disappointed too, but I don't feel like taking it out on other people that share my core beliefs.
ANYONE who hangs more than 50% of their body out of a moving vehicle in what appears to be a zealous attempt to show their support of someone. Is. An. Idiot.
That's not dismissive. That's fact.
Apparently, if you include FL and MI, Hillary leads the popular vote. Of course, no one but Hillary includes FL and MI, but... still. Ugh.
And if you dont include the caucuses, Im guessing.
It's in the bible. Noah didn't take no caucuses with him on the ark, so caucuses ain't natural.
I'm pretty sure the "comeback kid" angle is going to fade in the next couple days as this becomes apparent.
I really didn't mean anything by posting the picture except that the face of that... person... looks disquietingly non-human.
It haunts me.
Yeah, the number they're using includes FL and MI but leaves out the caucuses in IA, NV, ME, and WA, none of which reported actual vote totals.
If you're willing to estimate the vote from those four states, Obama's ahead by 200,000 votes even with FL and MI. But due to the difficulties of estimating those votes, and the stupidity of including vote totals from a state where one candidate wasn't even on the ballot, all of this is pointless wankery.
They also don't release vote totals, so you need to guesstimate them (you can do it fairly accurately somehow). This makes it convenient for the Clinton team to leave them out.
Seriously, allowing FL because Obama was forced to stay on the ballot, how can ANYONE pretned that MI is a fair gauge of ANYTHING?
"Hillary does well in elections where Obama is not running."
Really?
really?
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Not many, I'd think. Sebelius isn't the woman they want.
That would almost be an awesome factoid, except that it can be spun in the opposite direction: "Obama is roughly as popular as 'Nobody'."
Hahaha, yes, I agree, that one person is an idiot. Fortunately, Obama won't need to campaign for his vote, since he will soon be torn in half by a stop sign.
Or, only slightly less depressing, that Obama is as popular as 'Anybody but Clinton, for God's sake.'
"She's (not) Our Girl!"
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I mean, truthfully, that number means that almost as many people went out in heavy storms to tell Clinton to fuck off as went to actually vote for her, which is a much happier number, but that interpretation is beyond the understanding of the expensive hair-pieces that run the MSM.
Don't be ridicolous. She has no hope of winning the nomination and isn't in the lead in the popular vote. She isn't even in the lead in the national poll. There's no way the super delegates are going to vote for her, as they'd absolutely destroy the democratic party and pretty much hand McCain the Presidency.
Sigh. Silly media is silly.
Which is sad, because a part of me wants to think that they really aren't that retarded and it's all just an act. But all facts seem to point in the other direction with few, Chuck Todd related, exceptions.
I the bbc... they presented the facts... there was no "and Hillary Clinton rawx muh sawx" or "Obama is the second coming of Black Jesus"
These are the stats, these are the quotes, this is the situation.
I'm sad that this is refreshing to me.
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Woah, 60% of democratic voters were women in PA? I thought it would be closer to the 47% I saw earlier in the thread.
Yeah, except the Clinton campaign leaves a trail of debt in it's wake.
This election, even with a mediocre candidate, would have gone to the dems on the sheer basis of Bush's ineptitude. So we get a good candidate, just to make sure it's clinched. Then we get a historical candidate. Then another. I think that Stewart was right - we've overshot too far. I don't think we've overshot so far that we'll lose, but we overshot so badly that it's going to be close, I fear.
Why can't someone I like just crush the opposition once in a while? Shit, this is why I play video games - I want my guy to DESTROY on his path to the goal. I want to ride the wave of victory on a surfboard made of ass-kicking. Why does it always have to be close?
(sad face)
So when the made-for-TV movie comes out in a few years, they won't have to change much to make it compelling.