U and A XM were both pretty good. I'm interested to see where this Astonishing arc goes even though Ellis has already done the parallel worlds thing about a bajillion times. Everything else was kind of meh.
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"I told you," said Ford. "Eddies in the space-time continuum."
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
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what other stories has ellis done with parallel worlds?
off the top of my head all i can think of is planetary.
Authority and Stormwatch both had stories with alternate worlds. Anna Mercury. Newuniversal. I think his run on Excalibur had a fair bit of dimension-hopping, but that's always been a fairly central part of the comic.
Authority and Stormwatch both had stories with alternate worlds. Anna Mercury. Newuniversal. I think his run on Excalibur had a fair bit of dimension-hopping, but that's always been a fairly central part of the comic.
's what I'm saying. Not that those aren't all good comics.
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"I told you," said Ford. "Eddies in the space-time continuum."
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
The thing is that they're all very different stories. Aside from all involving altenate universes, they've got pretty much nothing in common. It's an odd complaint.
The ending to Rogue's Revenge was pretty fuckawesome. Uncanny X-Men was pretty awesome.
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Inertia goes nuts and Zoom tries to stop him. Inertia uses the speed force to send Zolomon back through time and makes him be crippled again, just sitting in his wheelchair. Will be interesting to see what happens to him.
Dubbilex actually predates the Superboy series. That's just the only book I know him from.
Well don't I look dumb. For some reason I thought he appeared during the Dan Jurgens era of Superman.
Still, it's a pet peeve of mine when a C-list character's brought back just to be killed in a story. Because most people aren't going to know or care who the C-lister is, or what happens to them, so the writer could just as easily use a well-written cipher, and the few people that know the character and like him will just be put off.
I mean, there could be a small contingent of fans that really like seeing characters killed off, but I've yet to discover it.
Alright, serious reply. I think a character's death has more impact when it happens in a book where the character's been appearing for a while. It gives readers a chance to care about them, and what happens to them. If Dubbilex had been popping up in Superman stories for the past year or so, his death would bother me less. As is, it feels like they pulled him from limbo just to kill him, making him less of a character to be mourned, and more of a plot point to be absorbed and eventually forgotten.
If someone wanted to kill Robotman, I'd hope it would be in an ongoing Doom Patrol book, where Cliff Steele is a recurring character, and not in a random fifth week event. If Starfire died, it would probably resonate best in a Titans book, rather than say, Green Lantern. I'll give Robinson points for killing Dubbilex in a Jimmy Olsen book though, so at least he's dying in the right franchise.
I understand I'm probably an abnormality among comic fans though. I hold way too much of the mythology sacred, probably too much so for my own good, so I take umbrage at things a lot of things other readers don't balk at. I view killing a character as removing a piece of that mythology, forcing later writers to either never use the character, effectively removing them forever, or to cheapen the character by resurrecting them. Both aren't options I like.
Personally, I was a fan of Joe Quesada's Dead Means Dead edict. I may not have completely agreed with the strictness of it, since I think a shitty death should be able to be undone, but I liked his rationale. He felt that, by forcing writers to accept and acknowledge that a character would be dead forever if they wrote their death, it would make writers really stop and think about what they were taking off the table. Hopefully forcing them to write stories that didn't hinge on cheap dramatic shortcuts like killing B-listers, or writing character deaths that were really worthy of being a character's final send off.
Like I said though, I'm just sort of weird in that way.
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edited October 2008
It kind of bothers me the picking-and-choosing they're doing with Countdown. Jimmy remembers having all those powers but he doesn't remember that Clark is Superman
What bothers me more is that there were two or three Action Comics issues about Jimmy knowing who Superman is
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I had no idea who the fuck Dubbliex was so it was just a sad moment in a book with a character I didn't care about a page ago.
Which is exactly my point. For 90% of the people that read the Jimmy Olsen Special, that scene probably meant nothing, and could have been done just as well by using a new character with a fictional, unseen history with Jimmy. I go back to this example a lot, but when Kevin Smith needed Onomatopoeia to kill some superheroes, he didn't go dig up some characters from Canceled Comics Cavalcade, he just made some new dudes, fleshed them out for a few pages, then killed them, and it resonated just as well as it would have with some unknown scrub in their place. Anyhow, derail over.
This week, Booster Gold's filler arc continued to be better than most other books' filler arcs, which is a pleasant surprise. The humor still isn't as strong as it was with Johns and Katz at the helm, but Remender gets a good gag in here and there. Really, I think Booster Gold is one of those characters that has such a strong personality, it's really kind of hard to fuck up when writing him. This two-issue arc finds Booster Gold and Goldstar battling a time-spanning Starro invasion, masterminded by a Starro-controlled Rip Hunter.
How did the invasion get started?
Oh, Daniel. Now, observe how our stalwart hero deals with the invasion.
man remender knows how to write badass stuff. Fear Agent usuaully has some "oh shit son!" going on every issue.
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I just don't understand why Starro has Grundy, Chemo, and Grodd. He said that the weaker the mind the easier to control, but Grodd has a super powerful mind.
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Raped by destiny, perhaps.
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That sounds like an anime title.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
off the top of my head all i can think of is planetary.
well he did that Negative Zone story in UFF although I'm not sure that counts
i really should pick up the authority and newuniversal trades. is ellis' newuniversal collected in to trades?
yes, yes it is.
's what I'm saying. Not that those aren't all good comics.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
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Inertia goes nuts and Zoom tries to stop him. Inertia uses the speed force to send Zolomon back through time and makes him be crippled again, just sitting in his wheelchair. Will be interesting to see what happens to him.
Destiny must be interested via a suppository, gods help you if you have a really big destiny.
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It's been used to turn people into mirrors, which can then be broken.
Dubbilex actually predates the Superboy series. That's just the only book I know him from.
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Well don't I look dumb. For some reason I thought he appeared during the Dan Jurgens era of Superman.
Still, it's a pet peeve of mine when a C-list character's brought back just to be killed in a story. Because most people aren't going to know or care who the C-lister is, or what happens to them, so the writer could just as easily use a well-written cipher, and the few people that know the character and like him will just be put off.
I mean, there could be a small contingent of fans that really like seeing characters killed off, but I've yet to discover it.
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https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
If someone wanted to kill Robotman, I'd hope it would be in an ongoing Doom Patrol book, where Cliff Steele is a recurring character, and not in a random fifth week event. If Starfire died, it would probably resonate best in a Titans book, rather than say, Green Lantern. I'll give Robinson points for killing Dubbilex in a Jimmy Olsen book though, so at least he's dying in the right franchise.
I understand I'm probably an abnormality among comic fans though. I hold way too much of the mythology sacred, probably too much so for my own good, so I take umbrage at things a lot of things other readers don't balk at. I view killing a character as removing a piece of that mythology, forcing later writers to either never use the character, effectively removing them forever, or to cheapen the character by resurrecting them. Both aren't options I like.
Personally, I was a fan of Joe Quesada's Dead Means Dead edict. I may not have completely agreed with the strictness of it, since I think a shitty death should be able to be undone, but I liked his rationale. He felt that, by forcing writers to accept and acknowledge that a character would be dead forever if they wrote their death, it would make writers really stop and think about what they were taking off the table. Hopefully forcing them to write stories that didn't hinge on cheap dramatic shortcuts like killing B-listers, or writing character deaths that were really worthy of being a character's final send off.
Like I said though, I'm just sort of weird in that way.
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What bothers me more is that there were two or three Action Comics issues about Jimmy knowing who Superman is
This week, Booster Gold's filler arc continued to be better than most other books' filler arcs, which is a pleasant surprise. The humor still isn't as strong as it was with Johns and Katz at the helm, but Remender gets a good gag in here and there. Really, I think Booster Gold is one of those characters that has such a strong personality, it's really kind of hard to fuck up when writing him. This two-issue arc finds Booster Gold and Goldstar battling a time-spanning Starro invasion, masterminded by a Starro-controlled Rip Hunter.
How did the invasion get started?
Oh, Daniel. Now, observe how our stalwart hero deals with the invasion.
oh shit son!
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