i'm not a big comic reader, but as a furvent fan of runaways, captain america is a big db (at least in that series)
i'm not saying i'm unpatriotic, but anybody or anything that pushes the patriotism thing too much irks me, and while i don't know anything about the capt, but i can also say i'm not super interested.
Speaking as someone who isn't american, I don't buy into the concept of Captain America in the slightest. The whole thing seems almost surreal to me (Australians would just laugh at a Captain Australia, I can tell you that much).
That said, the current run is just amazing and I enjoyed the first omnibus immensely. He went from an uninteresting character who's presence and nigh-omnipotence I've just accepted as the price of reading american comics to a character I was genuinely interested in. And then he died
Bucky was awesome during the run too though, and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy the stuff with him as Cap just as much.... shame it will be such a long time before I get to read it!
i'm not a big comic reader, but as a furvent fan of runaways, captain america is a big db (at least in that series)
i'm not saying i'm unpatriotic, but anybody or anything that pushes the patriotism thing too much irks me, and while i don't know anything about the capt, but i can also say i'm not super interested.
just throwing in my 2 cents
hey im not saying your stupid or anything but maybe you should read something before you talk about it
i'm not a big comic reader, but as a furvent fan of runaways, captain america is a big db (at least in that series)
i'm not saying i'm unpatriotic, but anybody or anything that pushes the patriotism thing too much irks me, and while i don't know anything about the capt, but i can also say i'm not super interested.
just throwing in my 2 cents
hey im not saying your stupid or anything but maybe you should read something before you talk about it
Yea, Captain America stands more for an ideal then for the country in whatever shape it is in. If he is written differently that writer doesn't quite get Captain America.
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Another question, since this apparently takes place after at least one person taking up the Captain America mantle: Should I read the issues leading up to this story first?
How far back should I go? I know I read like, one of the original Captain America comic books and it didn't have much to it other than kicking things and spinning around wires. So where's the awesome story stuff start as far as Captain America goes?
Also, this may not be the thread to ask this, but can someone explain the Civil War series to me? I don't mean to summarize it, but to clarify that there is a main Civil War series and then a Civil War series from the perspective of different people, such as Cap. Right?
So maybe that was more than one question, but I've never been in the comic books scene and I wanna be.
Is it going to do a good enough job of filling me in since I have absolutely no background into the Marvel universe other than the fact that I like Captain America and Spider-man?
Is it going to do a good enough job of filling me in since I have absolutely no background into the Marvel universe other than the fact that I like Captain America and Spider-man?
Oh and that Wolverine is retarded.
Yes, the Brubaker run does a nice job of providing the basic origin and background details necessary to understand the character. As I stated earlier in this thread, Brubaker's use of WW2 flashbacks are some of my favorite parts of his run, and Cap's origin is directly tied to WW2. He also does a great job of establishing Bucky as a character capable of standing on his own. He isn't just a campy sidekick anymore.
I have read basically none of cap's old series, and enjoyed the omnibus immensely. That's really the most amazing part about it, is how well he blends together explaining backstory, and then advancing the plot of the book at the same time.
That works, I'm thinking of settling for the Wikipedia character biography as a replacement.
But then I got to the "Civil War" and "Death of Captain America" sections and didn't want it spoiled.
Does Civil War tie in to the story of his death? I thought Civil War was sort of an alternative universe sort of story that doesn't actually effect the regular comics.
Spidey was decent, Young Avengers / Runaways was decent, the rest were pretty forgettable on the whole. Though I personally quite liked the Wolverine one.
Heh, what is there a Civil War series from the perspective of every hero? I've previous had no luck trying to find a Civil War set with all of them in it. Do you know of one?
Speaking of Spider-man, what would you say about his Ultimates series? Or is there another series/set I should read instead?
I read the first something of The Runaways
Last thing I remember was Alex being in Hell
Does the series get any better after that or am I fine skipping it?
I was under the assumption that I had been reading The Runaways from the beginning. The only obstacle is figuring out where in the timeline their Civil War series starts so I know which order to read, but that shouldn't be hard.
I didn't know you meant the beginning of Ultimate Spider-man. I thought you meant the beginning of Spider-man regularly.
So I guess I'll stick with the new Bucky as Cap, Civil War, Runaways and Ultimate Spider-man stories for now. If I feel the need to delve into the past stories I'll do it later.
Just so you know, the stuff branded "Ultimate" is a completley seperate continuity from the mainline Marvel U. They created the Ultimate line back in 2000 as a way to draw in new readers without decades of convoluted backstory to have to worry about.
No, I knew. I thought I might not have been clear with my post.
I just feel like I'm missing out on something if I don't read the older stuff too, but if you guys swear by his Ultimates series then I can wait to read the older stuff.
Edit: Looking at the Marvel site. Is the Runaways Civil War the same as Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways?
Also what's the difference between Civil War: Amazing Spider-man and Civil War: Peter Parker, Spider-man?
My point was just that Ultimate Spider-Man is not the same character as regular Spider-Man. Of course there are great classic Spidey stories from the 60s, 70s, 80s, (not so much the 90s)
but as far as Ultimate Spider-Man goes the very first trade is his origin story and it just goes from there.
Hm, it's going to be difficult to track down which those are.
Gah, so many questions. Is the Civil War timeline set in the Ultimates universe? If not, the description for the Amazing Spider-man Civil War collection makes me want to read the older Spider-man stuff first.
After rushing to the aftermath of the Stamford Massacre to offer aid to its victims...
Wait what? I know so little. If the Civil War series takes place in the regular Marvel universe I'm gonna have to read the older stuff first.
And there's been so many retcons and so much time has gone by that a lot of it is severely disconntected from the current title and character.
Not to say that there aren't plenty of good stories in there you should look for, but trying to go back and read every single issue of Spider-Man since Amazing Fantasy #15 is pretty much a fool's errand.
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i'm not saying i'm unpatriotic, but anybody or anything that pushes the patriotism thing too much irks me, and while i don't know anything about the capt, but i can also say i'm not super interested.
just throwing in my 2 cents
That said, the current run is just amazing and I enjoyed the first omnibus immensely. He went from an uninteresting character who's presence and nigh-omnipotence I've just accepted as the price of reading american comics to a character I was genuinely interested in. And then he died
Bucky was awesome during the run too though, and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy the stuff with him as Cap just as much.... shame it will be such a long time before I get to read it!
I don't know what you mean by 'buying into the concept' of Cap. Is it what he's supposed to stand for or the character itself?
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Yea, Captain America stands more for an ideal then for the country in whatever shape it is in. If he is written differently that writer doesn't quite get Captain America.
Cap was written as a Big DB in that series. It was the whole "kids vs adults" thing. You would still enjoy Brubaker's Capt run. Guarenteed.
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Another question, since this apparently takes place after at least one person taking up the Captain America mantle: Should I read the issues leading up to this story first?
How far back should I go? I know I read like, one of the original Captain America comic books and it didn't have much to it other than kicking things and spinning around wires. So where's the awesome story stuff start as far as Captain America goes?
Also, this may not be the thread to ask this, but can someone explain the Civil War series to me? I don't mean to summarize it, but to clarify that there is a main Civil War series and then a Civil War series from the perspective of different people, such as Cap. Right?
So maybe that was more than one question, but I've never been in the comic books scene and I wanna be.
Oh and that Wolverine is retarded.
Yes, the Brubaker run does a nice job of providing the basic origin and background details necessary to understand the character. As I stated earlier in this thread, Brubaker's use of WW2 flashbacks are some of my favorite parts of his run, and Cap's origin is directly tied to WW2. He also does a great job of establishing Bucky as a character capable of standing on his own. He isn't just a campy sidekick anymore.
As far as the original Captain America goes, what collections would you recommend?
But then I got to the "Civil War" and "Death of Captain America" sections and didn't want it spoiled.
Does Civil War tie in to the story of his death? I thought Civil War was sort of an alternative universe sort of story that doesn't actually effect the regular comics.
But are there separate Civil War series aside from the main story?
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Speaking of Spider-man, what would you say about his Ultimates series? Or is there another series/set I should read instead?
I read the first something of The Runaways
Does the series get any better after that or am I fine skipping it?
Also Ultimate Spider-Man is the best incarnation of the character ever, but is also something that should be read from the beginning.
I was under the assumption that I had been reading The Runaways from the beginning. The only obstacle is figuring out where in the timeline their Civil War series starts so I know which order to read, but that shouldn't be hard.
Ultimate Spider-Man is the same, it is absolutely fantastic and I thoroughly recommend pretty much every single issue.
So I guess I'll stick with the new Bucky as Cap, Civil War, Runaways and Ultimate Spider-man stories for now. If I feel the need to delve into the past stories I'll do it later.
Thanks for the help!
I just feel like I'm missing out on something if I don't read the older stuff too, but if you guys swear by his Ultimates series then I can wait to read the older stuff.
Edit: Looking at the Marvel site. Is the Runaways Civil War the same as Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways?
Also what's the difference between Civil War: Amazing Spider-man and Civil War: Peter Parker, Spider-man?
but as far as Ultimate Spider-Man goes the very first trade is his origin story and it just goes from there.
Gah, so many questions. Is the Civil War timeline set in the Ultimates universe? If not, the description for the Amazing Spider-man Civil War collection makes me want to read the older Spider-man stuff first.
Wait what? I know so little. If the Civil War series takes place in the regular Marvel universe I'm gonna have to read the older stuff first.
and the Stamford Massacre takes place in the first issue of the Civil War series
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Edit: Wtf? How many series of these characters are there? Captain America: The Chosen?
It's like there are roughly 25,000 comics to get through. I AM DROWNING IN THE POSSIBILITIES.
And there's been so many retcons and so much time has gone by that a lot of it is severely disconntected from the current title and character.
Not to say that there aren't plenty of good stories in there you should look for, but trying to go back and read every single issue of Spider-Man since Amazing Fantasy #15 is pretty much a fool's errand.