I don't have a real problem with spanking, but the vast majority of the literature and studies on the subject suggest that corporal punishment teaches kids only what they can get away with and what they can't -- not right or wrong, or how to make responsible decisions.
So, yeah, it can be convenient as a parent, and you can raise your kid to be obedient but I'd worry about what happens when they're a teenager or away at college and they haven't internalized responsible decision making and self-control.
Although I'm sure that if it's a real once-in-a-blue-moon thing it's probably different, but there's actually really good evidence that reasoning with children ultimately pays big dividends, and that corporal punishment is easy for the parent in the short-term but doesn't get at the underlying causes of bad behavior and it doesn't develop a moral framework.
Like I said, I'm sure if you don't rely on it exclusively, it's probably not so bad, but still people are just incredibly glib about corporal punishment of children when almost all the evidence says otherwise.
Plenty of kids get raised by "yuppies" who don't use corporal punishment and turn out completely well-behaved and high-achieving, myself and most of my friends that I grew up with included. Frankly we turned out a lot better than the few friends we knew who got spanked, but just like examples of whiny kids in supermarkets, it's all anecdotal.
I can count on two hands the number of whippings I got, and I turned out as a decent person; I'm not advocating an ass-whipping a day, but they were the last line of discipline when I couldn't seem to get shit through my head. You can talk to a four-year-old till you're blue in the face, but a swat is worth a thousand words.
also, the linemen in the left of the picture are terrifying
I was playing defensive end all day, hahaha.
The big girl in the black on the left is Maddox. She moved to Seattle this year and used to play on a different team, but she's fucking awesome and hits hard. Some of the other teams have these fucking huge girls but then they don't hit very hard. Seattle seems to have smaller girls, for the most part. We took a squad of almost entirely rookies down to this scrimmage in California and managed to beat two teams and tie one of the other ones. A few of us were playing positions we'd never played before.
I am now covered in bruises. Both forearms, both biceps, one knee is scraped and bruised and my thumb is bruised and hurts to bend it. And my neck is sore.
And I have practice tonight. Ugh.
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edited March 2009
Sometimes kids do incredibly stupid and dangerous things and a physical reminder is in order.
The talk helps them learn, the smack helps them remember.
I usually got the smack before the talk.
As an addendum, I didn't get leather across my ass after the age of ten; my parents just thought it was far more efficient to take my games and my books away. My TV had a special wheeled stand it sat on for just such an occasion.
The talk helps them learn, the smack helps them remember.
I usually got the smack before the talk.
As an addendum, I didn't get leather across my ass after the age of ten; my parents just thought it was far more efficient to take my games and my books away. My TV had a special wheeled stand it sat on for just such an occasion.
for some reason my parents thought that 14 was a good stopping age, and lemme tell ya, punishing a teenager with a belt is going to do fuckall
All this thread has done is prove that Texas needs to give us Dead Legend, Darth Waiter, and the secret recipe for Texas toast and then secede the fuck away from the US.
for some reason my parents thought that 14 was a good stopping age, and lemme tell ya, punishing a teenager with a belt is going to do fuckall
Yeah, see, that's some bullshit. After the age of ten or so, there's a lot of mental faculties to work with. The physical discipline that we use on my roommate's daughter is push-ups, ten for each time she runs off at the mouth and we do them with her.
It helps to drive home the point that she done fucked up while keeping the punishment humane.
All this thread has done is prove that Texas needs to give us Dead Legend, Darth Waiter, and the secret recipe for Texas toast and then secede the fuck away from the US.
You are too kind, but there's a great deal of cool shit here, like Natural Bridge Caverns and South Padre Island.
All this thread has done is prove that Texas needs to give us Dead Legend, Darth Waiter, and the secret recipe for Texas toast and then secede the fuck away from the US.
You are too kind, but there's a great deal of cool shit here, like Natural Bridge Caverns and South Padre Island.
Oh my goodness, you may have received a text message from SPI after I was a little inebriated.
Mysst got one too.
So did just about everybody in my phonebook.
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for some reason my parents thought that 14 was a good stopping age, and lemme tell ya, punishing a teenager with a belt is going to do fuckall
Yeah, see, that's some bullshit. After the age of ten or so, there's a lot of mental faculties to work with. The physical discipline that we use on my roommate's daughter is push-ups, ten for each time she runs off at the mouth and we do them with her.
It helps to drive home the point that she done fucked up while keeping the punishment humane.
yeah, once I hit the teens I started getting punished for some just weird-ass reasons that really should have been resolved with plain talking and giving of reasons. luckily I'm pretty forgiving so you know, no strained relationship with them beyond having to explain how gravity is different than centrifugal force and that the earth spinning is not what makes us stick.
Oh my goodness, you may have received a text message from SPI after I was a little inebriated.
Mysst got one too.
So did just about everybody in my phonebook.
That is a negative, Ghost Rider; my phone has been off since we're trimming the fat from the budget in the house. Luckily, I got a job offer at a consistent gig that should be starting soon.
Oh my goodness, you may have received a text message from SPI after I was a little inebriated.
Mysst got one too.
So did just about everybody in my phonebook.
That is a negative, Ghost Rider; my phone has been off since we're trimming the fat from the budget in the house. Luckily, I got a job offer at a consistent gig that should be starting soon.
God, what a lameass.
I only have perfect punctuation in text messages when I'm hammered.
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All this thread has done is prove that Texas needs to give us Dead Legend, Darth Waiter, and the secret recipe for Texas toast and then secede the fuck away from the US.
The more people talk about Texas the more I want to move down there. It's like people actually have power down there and are not regulated up the ass.
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Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
As an aside, how does one go about using WEB MD? I have some wicked neck and back pain as well as a swollen left ear that has a localized fever, like an infection, but there's no cut or anything. It's been off and on for about 2 weeks.
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edited March 2009
Swollen ear? As in cauliflowered and full of fluid?
Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
Oh come on, Dee Dub, you and I both know Texas has some shitty, shitty places within its borders, as well as an above average number of brain dead jackoffs. I'm not saying it's the worst, per capita (I think Florida takes the gold on that one), but it's still pretty bad.
Though I will say that Austin is pretty fucking awesome.
Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
As an aside, how does one go about using WEB MD? I have some wicked neck and back pain as well as a swollen left ear that has a localized fever, like an infection, but there's no cut or anything. It's been off and on for about 2 weeks.
You stop trying to self-diagnose and get to a doctor, if it matters that much to you.
Or I guess you can type in symptoms and stuff, but I hear that trying to find out what's wrong is generally frowned on by doctors who have to deal with "WebMD said that my sprained ankle might indicate a genetic disposition towards amputation of feet and being a general hypochondriac"
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Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
As an aside, how does one go about using WEB MD? I have some wicked neck and back pain as well as a swollen left ear that has a localized fever, like an infection, but there's no cut or anything. It's been off and on for about 2 weeks.
Swollen ear? As in cauliflowered and full of fluid?
Nah, just swelling like slightly inflamed. I haven't had a fever or anything, so I'm guessing it was a localized infection. It's not staph, though, Thank God. I had a bout with that once and got it cleared up with the quickness.
Like I said, it's off and on and nothing more than inconvenient. If I start twitching or anything, I'll hit up a doctor.
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Texas is mostly awful. It has some good parts, but on the whole, awful.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
As an aside, how does one go about using WEB MD? I have some wicked neck and back pain as well as a swollen left ear that has a localized fever, like an infection, but there's no cut or anything. It's been off and on for about 2 weeks.
you might have staph
go get a culture done
He doesn't play for the Browns so I think he's safe.
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you know, for the sake of argument
I don't have a real problem with spanking, but the vast majority of the literature and studies on the subject suggest that corporal punishment teaches kids only what they can get away with and what they can't -- not right or wrong, or how to make responsible decisions.
So, yeah, it can be convenient as a parent, and you can raise your kid to be obedient but I'd worry about what happens when they're a teenager or away at college and they haven't internalized responsible decision making and self-control.
Although I'm sure that if it's a real once-in-a-blue-moon thing it's probably different, but there's actually really good evidence that reasoning with children ultimately pays big dividends, and that corporal punishment is easy for the parent in the short-term but doesn't get at the underlying causes of bad behavior and it doesn't develop a moral framework.
Like I said, I'm sure if you don't rely on it exclusively, it's probably not so bad, but still people are just incredibly glib about corporal punishment of children when almost all the evidence says otherwise.
Plenty of kids get raised by "yuppies" who don't use corporal punishment and turn out completely well-behaved and high-achieving, myself and most of my friends that I grew up with included. Frankly we turned out a lot better than the few friends we knew who got spanked, but just like examples of whiny kids in supermarkets, it's all anecdotal.
I was playing defensive end all day, hahaha.
The big girl in the black on the left is Maddox. She moved to Seattle this year and used to play on a different team, but she's fucking awesome and hits hard. Some of the other teams have these fucking huge girls but then they don't hit very hard. Seattle seems to have smaller girls, for the most part. We took a squad of almost entirely rookies down to this scrimmage in California and managed to beat two teams and tie one of the other ones. A few of us were playing positions we'd never played before.
I am now covered in bruises. Both forearms, both biceps, one knee is scraped and bruised and my thumb is bruised and hurts to bend it. And my neck is sore.
And I have practice tonight. Ugh.
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Some kids can be talked to, some just need a slap.
I usually got the smack before the talk.
As an addendum, I didn't get leather across my ass after the age of ten; my parents just thought it was far more efficient to take my games and my books away. My TV had a special wheeled stand it sat on for just such an occasion.
Yeah, see, that's some bullshit. After the age of ten or so, there's a lot of mental faculties to work with. The physical discipline that we use on my roommate's daughter is push-ups, ten for each time she runs off at the mouth and we do them with her.
It helps to drive home the point that she done fucked up while keeping the punishment humane.
You are too kind, but there's a great deal of cool shit here, like Natural Bridge Caverns and South Padre Island.
Oh my goodness, you may have received a text message from SPI after I was a little inebriated.
Mysst got one too.
So did just about everybody in my phonebook.
That is a negative, Ghost Rider; my phone has been off since we're trimming the fat from the budget in the house. Luckily, I got a job offer at a consistent gig that should be starting soon.
God, what a lameass.
I only have perfect punctuation in text messages when I'm hammered.
That is slightly ironic.
IT'S LIKE RAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAIIIN
Well, how else are the fucking bastards going to understand me?
The more people talk about Texas the more I want to move down there. It's like people actually have power down there and are not regulated up the ass.
I'm raising an eyebrow at you, ever so sternly.
As an aside, how does one go about using WEB MD? I have some wicked neck and back pain as well as a swollen left ear that has a localized fever, like an infection, but there's no cut or anything. It's been off and on for about 2 weeks.
Though I will say that Austin is pretty fucking awesome.
You stop trying to self-diagnose and get to a doctor, if it matters that much to you.
Or I guess you can type in symptoms and stuff, but I hear that trying to find out what's wrong is generally frowned on by doctors who have to deal with "WebMD said that my sprained ankle might indicate a genetic disposition towards amputation of feet and being a general hypochondriac"
you might have staph
go get a culture done
Nah, just swelling like slightly inflamed. I haven't had a fever or anything, so I'm guessing it was a localized infection. It's not staph, though, Thank God. I had a bout with that once and got it cleared up with the quickness.
Like I said, it's off and on and nothing more than inconvenient. If I start twitching or anything, I'll hit up a doctor.
He doesn't play for the Browns so I think he's safe.
Wow, you and the ACLU.
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