Abortion isn't murder because fetuses, at the stage in which an abortion is still legal, are not people.
Subjective opinion, same as "this guy is guilty".
as opposed to objective opinion
That's... exactly what I'm saying. No objective litmus test really exists for either situation, and if you're wrong, you just killed someone, so the reasonable and prudent course is to err on the side of caution, even if it means a short term negative result.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
Yeah it's half a jigrah cell that can never grow no matter what environment it's in.
Compared to a zygote that is genetically distinct and given the proper care and environment will one day become a person.
I realize this isn't an ironclad argument, but if there's doubt, the default "rights/no rights" switch should be set to "rights". We've gotten it wrong before on various subgroups, and each time we've given them rights, it's turned out to be the correct course of action.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
A baby doesn't develop on it's own, it needs nurturing, food and safety. None of it that can be provided by itself.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
It's not his point he's actually successfully identified the hole in teef's half-assed argument.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
So? Babies require feeding for years until they can feed themselves, but are still protected legally.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
A baby doesn't develop on it's own, it needs nurturing, food and safety. None of it that can be provided by itself.
You are comparing a cluster of cells to a fully functioning organism that can survive outside of it's uterine environment.
By your definition are all multicellular organisms deserving of life and rights or only ones that eventually develop a spinal cord?
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
It's not his point he's actually successfully identified the hole in teef's half-assed argument.
Potential for life is potential for life. If he wants to use that as his base, then he has to live with the fact that even gametes have a potential for life. Hell, proteins in a primordial stew have a potential for life.
if you're going with this "human potential" bullshit, a dude whackin' off is murder.
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
But each sperm has your genetic material that could form into a person! You're comitting genocide everytime you jerk it. Sorry bro.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
A baby doesn't develop on it's own, it needs nurturing, food and safety. None of it that can be provided by itself.
You are comparing a cluster of cells to a fully functioning organism that can survive outside of it's uterine environment.
By your definition are all multicellular organisms deserving of life and rights or only ones that eventually develop a spinal cord?
Life doesn't hold intrinsic value, which is why I am okay with eating meat, euthanasia, abortions and war. It's just odd to me that people pick and choose from a list, yet holding onto this intrinsic value for life.
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it's kind of adorable
To paraphrase the Jesuits:
"Start young; you can do anything."
That's... exactly what I'm saying. No objective litmus test really exists for either situation, and if you're wrong, you just killed someone, so the reasonable and prudent course is to err on the side of caution, even if it means a short term negative result.
The Meaning of Life, actually.
"Every Sperm is Sacred."
Hahahahaha
No it is not, at all. That is like saying a firearm (without rounds) is potentially lethal (at 30 yards, just to take away the physical damage of clubbing someone).
Nah it requires a conscious act to bring sperm and ovum together.
From there on in it's pretty much auto-pilot.
Has part of my genetic information, it does not form a human on it's own.
You were such a cute baby, what the fuck happened?
And an embryo doesn't form into a human on its own. It requires a womb, sustenance from the mother, and approximately 36 to 40 weeks of gestation. What's your point.
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The Jews got me. Cut my foreskin off and everything.
So if I burn the tissues I'm part of the final solution?
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Towel is like Sudan, my girls tummy is more like Auchwitz.
Compared to a zygote that is genetically distinct and given the proper care and environment will one day become a person.
I realize this isn't an ironclad argument, but if there's doubt, the default "rights/no rights" switch should be set to "rights". We've gotten it wrong before on various subgroups, and each time we've given them rights, it's turned out to be the correct course of action.
Fuckin' anti-semitic son of a bitch
A baby doesn't develop on it's own, it needs nurturing, food and safety. None of it that can be provided by itself.
Am I succeeding, or are my efforts in vain?
Dust.
Wind.
DUDE.
It's not his point he's actually successfully identified the hole in teef's half-assed argument.
I'll be leaving soon to sell my genetic material. It will be like I am a slaver, selling my offspring for cold hard cash.
So? Babies require feeding for years until they can feed themselves, but are still protected legally.
for the record, i am perfectly ok with occasionally killing unwanted humans.
If I had the opportunity to travel through time, I would slap that asshole doctor before he cut my newborn penis.
You are comparing a cluster of cells to a fully functioning organism that can survive outside of it's uterine environment.
By your definition are all multicellular organisms deserving of life and rights or only ones that eventually develop a spinal cord?
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Not necessarily against it, but definitely not embracing it.
Honestly, I couldn't care less that I'm circumcised. I mean, it's less smegma, that's for sure.
Therefore, sadly, as far as I'm concerned a baby up to the moment it is yanked out of that uterian prison, 8 months, 29 days, is not a person.
Sorry. I have to draw a line somewhere, and that is where I personally choose to draw it.
Potential for life is potential for life. If he wants to use that as his base, then he has to live with the fact that even gametes have a potential for life. Hell, proteins in a primordial stew have a potential for life.
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Life doesn't hold intrinsic value, which is why I am okay with eating meat, euthanasia, abortions and war. It's just odd to me that people pick and choose from a list, yet holding onto this intrinsic value for life.