This is pretty telling, from a live report yesterday
A CM Punk chant started once and got shot down pretty quick. A pretty loud Harambe chant during the TJP match (I’m so tired of hearing about that damn gorilla).
There was almost no reaction during TJ Perkins vs. Tony Nese. Fans who didn’t watch the Cruiserweight Classic still have no reason to get behind any of these guys.
I don't want to rag on WWE about them already fucking this up but that is a good point.
They've been on screen all of 3 times, once at Raw in a free for all, once at a PPV and once again on Raw in a half-free for all. Like give them more than 8 days. They're not hot women and they're not NXT darlings or Indie superstars like AJ Styles, the casual fan, especially the post-blah PPV casual fan doesn't know who half these guys are and have no investment in them YET because they're literally not following any storyline, they're doing exhibition matches.
I'll mark out for Jack Gallagher when he turns up, but he still needs time to follow a story.
Best bet, they let them build up a while as they keep introducing new guys, then Kendrick wins the belt, joins up with Owens to give the Cruiser belt some more screen time and begin to allow the rest of the Cruisers to interact with the main roster.
I think yesterday proves that Neville and Sami need to be in the cruiser division for now.
No just! If you put them in that division then they overshadow everyone in it. Sami should be in the Universal title picture and Neville needs to be in the hunt for the US belt or he gets traded to smackdown and goes for the IC. Let the Cruiserweights they have establish themselves.
I'm not sure why you are so hype on them being in it. It would be awful for all involved.
I think Sami should be doing other things, but I don't really see the downside of of Neville being there. Partially because he fits in the division so well and partially because I just think he would have great matches with a lot of those guys.
A match between him and Tony Nese sounds really interesting, for instance. Him having competitive matches with Tony or any of the other guys does help establish them. I'm not saying he needs to win the title because he's the "WWE guy" and he's been there for longer, but I think him being involved could help boost the division somewhat, especially considering that he's not really doing anything else right now.
I mean, would you rather see him in competitive matches with other guys who can put on a show or would you rather see him in the U.S. title hunt getting squashed by Roman every time they're in a match together? Because that's exactly what would happen.
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Yeah, pretty much all of the guys going from the CWC to the main roster are coming into WWE as blank slates. They have personality, they have charisma. But the only exposure most of the audience watching has had to them is the CWC, and even that it's obvious a very large portion of the audience didn't watch. And as wonderful as that tournament was it didn't give a whole lot of room for character development.
Yeah, pretty much all of the guys going from the CWC to the main roster are coming into WWE as blank slates. They have personality, they have charisma.
Yeah, pretty much all of the guys going from the CWC to the main roster are coming into WWE as blank slates. They have personality, they have charisma.
Woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Cedric Alexander is a charismatic dude.
Jimmy Wang Yang took the Raw Cruiserweights out for a good time on his party bus. Pro Wrestling Sheet reports that the former WWE star was backstage at Raw and went out with Brian Kendrick, TJ Perkins, Rich Swann, Cedric Alexander, Tony Nese and Drew Gulak for a night out on the town.
When the site asked Yang what they did on their night out, he replied, “What happens on Jimmy’s Redneck Party Bus stays on Jimmy’s Redneck Party Bus. It’s the Way of the Wang.”
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I loved Jack Gallagher.
I'm sure he probably doesn't have much real staying power in a place like WWE, but man he's fun to watch.
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This is pretty telling, from a live report yesterday
A CM Punk chant started once and got shot down pretty quick. A pretty loud Harambe chant during the TJP match (I’m so tired of hearing about that damn gorilla).
There was almost no reaction during TJ Perkins vs. Tony Nese. Fans who didn’t watch the Cruiserweight Classic still have no reason to get behind any of these guys.
I don't want to rag on WWE about them already fucking this up but that is a good point.
the day they all debuted on Raw, WWE put a top 10 video on youtube of cruiserweight moves from like the last 20 years that were awesome
imo playing that and then having the match, with perkins watching the match and ideally on commentary if he's good enough, would have done much more than having foley talk accomplished. for one, you see jericho and guerrero which IMO does a lot to remind people that it's just a weight class, it doesn't mean these guys aren't real competition or can't fight anyone on the roster in theory. second, remind everyone what the fuck is exciting about the division. the match was good but you can only fit so many spots in 15 minutes or whatever it was. and they could have had those too! just also show a 'best of cruiserweights' type video. one which they'd already produced that day.
also, I've almost mentioned this a few times but I thought it was sort of a slap in the face that after the first cruiserweight commercial on their debut ep of raw, in I think the first hour, sin cara walked out and got destroyed by Stroman. I don't think sin cara is a cruiserweight but people definitely associate them with luchas and vice versa. and the timing just screamed 'spite' to me. it's the exact type of shit WWE does and I refuse to see it as an accident.
I still think they'll survive and are a huge boon to the 3 hour run time but they could have done them more favors on their opening night. Just my opinion.
edit - my post sounds like I think the cruisers are screwed and already gasping for air and I don't feel that way but I do think they could have done a better job of making them a big deal out of the gate. most of what needs to be done has to be done by the performers themselves (and I 100% believe they can and will continue to deliver). Just wanna be clear where I stand.
When does Bray Wyatt start shooting laser pointers out of his finger tips?
Next door he opens...Bray is inside bobbing for apples....Rowan standing in the corner dressed as a Charlie Brown sheet ghost...monster mash plays in the back ground.
Inside of a dog...it's too dark to read.
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if nese clearing the ropes with a flip and landing on his feet without stumbling doesn't at least grab your attention then i dunno what will
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They've been on screen all of 3 times, once at Raw in a free for all, once at a PPV and once again on Raw in a half-free for all. Like give them more than 8 days. They're not hot women and they're not NXT darlings or Indie superstars like AJ Styles, the casual fan, especially the post-blah PPV casual fan doesn't know who half these guys are and have no investment in them YET because they're literally not following any storyline, they're doing exhibition matches.
I'll mark out for Jack Gallagher when he turns up, but he still needs time to follow a story.
Best bet, they let them build up a while as they keep introducing new guys, then Kendrick wins the belt, joins up with Owens to give the Cruiser belt some more screen time and begin to allow the rest of the Cruisers to interact with the main roster.
Thanks fellas.
I think Sami should be doing other things, but I don't really see the downside of of Neville being there. Partially because he fits in the division so well and partially because I just think he would have great matches with a lot of those guys.
A match between him and Tony Nese sounds really interesting, for instance. Him having competitive matches with Tony or any of the other guys does help establish them. I'm not saying he needs to win the title because he's the "WWE guy" and he's been there for longer, but I think him being involved could help boost the division somewhat, especially considering that he's not really doing anything else right now.
I mean, would you rather see him in competitive matches with other guys who can put on a show or would you rather see him in the U.S. title hunt getting squashed by Roman every time they're in a match together? Because that's exactly what would happen.
it's only the second week, so hopefully they can get something together
They've already started with turning Kendrick and I think we're going to see more of it as time goes on.
That shit takes time.
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Woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Cedric Alexander is a charismatic dude.
I'm sure he probably doesn't have much real staying power in a place like WWE, but man he's fun to watch.
the day they all debuted on Raw, WWE put a top 10 video on youtube of cruiserweight moves from like the last 20 years that were awesome
imo playing that and then having the match, with perkins watching the match and ideally on commentary if he's good enough, would have done much more than having foley talk accomplished. for one, you see jericho and guerrero which IMO does a lot to remind people that it's just a weight class, it doesn't mean these guys aren't real competition or can't fight anyone on the roster in theory. second, remind everyone what the fuck is exciting about the division. the match was good but you can only fit so many spots in 15 minutes or whatever it was. and they could have had those too! just also show a 'best of cruiserweights' type video. one which they'd already produced that day.
also, I've almost mentioned this a few times but I thought it was sort of a slap in the face that after the first cruiserweight commercial on their debut ep of raw, in I think the first hour, sin cara walked out and got destroyed by Stroman. I don't think sin cara is a cruiserweight but people definitely associate them with luchas and vice versa. and the timing just screamed 'spite' to me. it's the exact type of shit WWE does and I refuse to see it as an accident.
I still think they'll survive and are a huge boon to the 3 hour run time but they could have done them more favors on their opening night. Just my opinion.
edit - my post sounds like I think the cruisers are screwed and already gasping for air and I don't feel that way but I do think they could have done a better job of making them a big deal out of the gate. most of what needs to be done has to be done by the performers themselves (and I 100% believe they can and will continue to deliver). Just wanna be clear where I stand.
Good. About time.
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Next door he opens...Bray is inside bobbing for apples....Rowan standing in the corner dressed as a Charlie Brown sheet ghost...monster mash plays in the back ground.
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