In theory, there should be constant on the fly strategy for both teams in scavenge.
That's not what I mean, like the map is mostly the same being a small zone and you mostly just attack at the fuel thingy regardless.
Only other times are stragglers and spitting on gasoline.
With vs you have to adapt with the environment and use your surroundings to plan out attacks.
Scavenge is like: Ok wait till they get back with fuel and in front of fueler. Ok go. Rinse. First team to not get a high first score loses automatically.
Well, then you're playing infected like the corner campers played l4d1. The boring way. :P
(i still haven't played scavenge at all yet, can you tell?)
Scavenge is by far the better game mode. Vs feels more like your just trying to ruin some ones single player experience by making it as hard as possible to get to the end. That can be fun, and I have had many fun times playing Vs. But at the end of the day theres no real strategy to it. Survivors run as fast as possible, and infected try to catch them.
Scavenge on the other hand has a lot of strategy to it. IMO the best map to play Scavenge on is Dead Center, as its probably the most balanced map. Though I haven't tried some of the others. The more you play it, the more you find out which cans you can get the fastest, and which areas you should try and avoid when going alone.
Vs feels more like your just trying to ruin some ones single player experience by making it as hard as possible to get to the end.
This is exactly why I prefer Versus. It's more fun to me precisely because it's a little less structured and there's a lot less pressure to do really well as the infected. You take your turn working hard to do well as a survivor and the payoff is you get to fuck with the other team for shits and giggles. There's still that pressure to keep the survivor team from getting to the safehouse but I find it more fun overall.
On a different note I just came across a server-side mod that allowed incapped players to use pills and adrenaline to stand up again, requiring no one else. It was awful.
Scavenge is by far the better game mode. Vs feels more like your just trying to ruin some ones single player experience by making it as hard as possible to get to the end. That can be fun, and I have had many fun times playing Vs. But at the end of the day theres no real strategy to it. Survivors run as fast as possible, and infected try to catch them.
Scavenge on the other hand has a lot of strategy to it. IMO the best map to play Scavenge on is Dead Center, as its probably the most balanced map. Though I haven't tried some of the others. The more you play it, the more you find out which cans you can get the fastest, and which areas you should try and avoid when going alone.
this is nonsense
there absolutely is strategy to vs
you're competing against the other team to see who can make it the farthest in the campaign overall
What are you two blabbering about? Of course there's no strategy involved. That's why everyone have a 50% win stat in VS and also why experienced players never win more often than n00bs.
Well, thanks for the clarification. I view this no-legs choice with a weeping eye. I will make a post in the official forums, maybe somebody gets the idea. Still i played the demo and the new infected really spice up the game. Adittionally, THIS TIME i will import a foreign version because i am german and the censoring was and is harsh. I probably import the from the UK because they are part of the european federation and because of that i can circumvent toll fees. A bloodpatch will not work since its a steam application and modifying files is NOT an option. Consider that if you live somewhere in the censored countries. I will order it right away. Took me some hours to get approval form my girlfriend but it was worth the argument ^^
sidenote: i am purely purcasing the game because of VS. Of course there are retards in a squad here and there wich won't stick together and run off, wich won't help, etc but that is life. For the most part the game works out. Of course there is that human factor but in most cases its a good thing.
Scavenge sounds interesting, i think its kinda comperable to Counterstrike bomb maps. I have high anticipations.
Also... in the DEMO a lot of people stick around because the DEMO is only one level. You can't really blame them.
Hehe Parish is pretty fun but since my comp crashed I didn't get the achievement no matter however.
Any one ever had the problem where your game (or even computer..) keeps randomly alt tabbing not full on but the window just un selects and I have to click to get back in its really frustrating and does it while I'm even just on the internet.
Do you have AVG install? If so, replace it with something else or downgrade.
1. The spitter has replaced the tank and smoker as my favorite infected to play as. It's ridiculosuly easy to rack up the damage, especially in campaigns like hard rain where there's lots of choke points in the houses, elevators, etc.
2. Maybe it's just me, but is the game a little too liberal with the stronger weapons? For example, I hardly ever run across a pump shotgun or the less powerful sniper rifle yet it appears there are many more of the SSG rifles and combat/tac shotguns laying around. I guess I just think that the survivors (in campaign and/or vs) should work for the upper-tier weapons. Of course, I'm still trying to master the campaigns on normal, perhaps advanced or survival is more stingy?
3. Is it wrong to get a boner when I see the female version of the boomer?
Oh I get you now.
I think the achievements thing is over, not that it matters much.
I way prefer the better graphics of the PC regardless...achievements are just thin frosting for me.
Before you say anything, I used to have a 360, and thought the visuals couldn't be that different, oh, I was so wrong. (PC all the way for me now...unless it's something that is only on my PS3)
Hehe Parish is pretty fun but since my comp crashed I didn't get the achievement no matter however.
Any one ever had the problem where your game (or even computer..) keeps randomly alt tabbing not full on but the window just un selects and I have to click to get back in its really frustrating and does it while I'm even just on the internet.
Do you have AVG install? If so, replace it with something else or downgrade.
As I said 8 posts ago, you don't need to reinstall or downgrade. You just need to disable the avgtray.exe
Playing Dark Carnival, I come around a corner with magnum in hand, see a clown in front of me staring at the wall.
I quickly shoot in it's direction, hoping to get it before it attracts any horde. I happen to hit it square in the ass, which rips open, literally starts crapping blood. The clown tries to grab it and then squats backward and falls dead. I almost died laughing at that. I love what they've done to up the gore on this game.
Edit: Oh and I need some PA'ers to play this with. I tried a pub match yesterday and found a good team to play with. Except one guy, being cool the whole game decides to let the 3 of us who are incapped die at the finale and just escape solo. Jerk.
You guys tried the fun achievements on dark carnival yet? If you play the shoot-a-duck style game as you enter the carnival, you get a gnome. If you carry it all the way to the end you get an achievement. There are also two carny games that give achievements according to if your faster or stronger than mustachio (who is a pistachio). I managed to do the carny games but not the gnome. We lost it on the roller coaster.
You guys tried the fun achievements on dark carnival yet? If you play the shoot-a-duck style game as you enter the carnival, you get a gnome. If you carry it all the way to the end you get an achievement. There are also two carny games that give achievements according to if your faster or stronger than mustachio (who is a pistachio). I managed to do the carny games but not the gnome. We lost it on the roller coaster.
This totally hasn't been discussed all thread and didn't get a meta-thread spawned.
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One of my friends was interested in getting this so I recorded a demo file of a playthrough with some friends and recorded some highlights of the playthrough so he can get idea on what kind of stupid fun the game can be.
Remember you can throw the gnome over fences. in II you can throw it from just before the panic event to the entrance of the safehouse, in III you can throw it after the first bend of the rollercoaster onto the final platform, and in IV you can throw it right into the final stretch of the panic event from just after the bumpercars.
It makes it a lot easier, especially on higher difficulty settings.
Beat Dead Center on Expert Realism last night. We spent two hours on the 3rd map. We literally got almost indefinite horde spawns. From the second we loaded the map till we finished, every try (probably 20 tries). Anyone else expierence this? Was I a horrible bug or is Expert Realism just the ultimate challenge?
Remember you can throw the gnome over fences. in II you can throw it from just before the panic event to the entrance of the safehouse, in III you can throw it after the first bend of the rollercoaster onto the final platform, and in IV you can throw it right into the final stretch of the panic event from just after the bumpercars.
It makes it a lot easier, especially on higher difficulty settings.
That's what I did. Couldn't get past the panic even of IV on Advanced and I had to leave at that point anyways. So close!
One of my friends was interested in getting this so I recorded a demo file of a playthrough with some friends and recorded some highlights of the playthrough so he can get idea on what kind of stupid fun the game can be.
The problem is, a video just shows what the game looks like, and random dudes talking about random stuff that you don't really have a context for. You can't really get a feel for how it... er... feels to play. The ramp up in tension during panic events, tanks and witches. How the teamwork all comes together so naturally (unless you know, your team mates are jerks). How awesome it is to make it through the tough parts and stick together right to the end.
Remember you can throw the gnome over fences. in II you can throw it from just before the panic event to the entrance of the safehouse, in III you can throw it after the first bend of the rollercoaster onto the final platform, and in IV you can throw it right into the final stretch of the panic event from just after the bumpercars.
It makes it a lot easier, especially on higher difficulty settings.
We had us a good Gnome run JK.
Although next time I'm not guarding you three whilst you insist on playing every carny game we came across.
Remember you can throw the gnome over fences. in II you can throw it from just before the panic event to the entrance of the safehouse, in III you can throw it after the first bend of the rollercoaster onto the final platform, and in IV you can throw it right into the final stretch of the panic event from just after the bumpercars.
It makes it a lot easier, especially on higher difficulty settings.
That's what I did. Couldn't get past the panic even of IV on Advanced and I had to leave at that point anyways. So close!
I wouldn't try to get the gnome achievement until Valve irons out the problems with achievements vanishing.
I got it on my first run through Dark Carnival and I lost that and the Dark Carnival achievement.
Oh great, I finally get hit by the dreaded stats and achievements wipe.
Its not like they were hard but getting the gnome one again will be a pain, and I was quite proud of the achievement for preventing the survivors getting any cans at all in scavenge.
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Broke down and bought L4D2 finally. Couldn't be happier with the product right now and I've only ran through Dead Center.
Things I've noticed:
1. There seems to be more static zombies now, and a greater number on swarms.
2. The increased gore is both dynamic and a good addition. The downside is that sometimes armless zombies will still come after you, so I've found myself using the "double tap" rule .
3. The variety of weapons gives you a lot more options. Unfortunately I've found that it takes me longer to decide what characteristics I prefer.
4. The difficulty is greater across the board (we spent 1hr on the Dead Center finale alone).
5. The new infected are great for mixing up the threat, except that I hate the Jockey with a passion.
Are you sure this isn't going to be like some of the other achievements in l4d1 where, even when they dissapeared they were restated later?
I still haven't gotten my expert clears in L4D1 back. It's been over 6 months.
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edited November 2009
So after the Steam outtage yesterday my game got stuck in "Australia" mode. I have no gore, and all the zombie bodies disappear the moment they hit the ground. My settings haven't changed, and my gore settings are still set at "high". Has this happened to anyone else?
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Well, then you're playing infected like the corner campers played l4d1. The boring way. :P
(i still haven't played scavenge at all yet, can you tell?)
Scavenge on the other hand has a lot of strategy to it. IMO the best map to play Scavenge on is Dead Center, as its probably the most balanced map. Though I haven't tried some of the others. The more you play it, the more you find out which cans you can get the fastest, and which areas you should try and avoid when going alone.
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This is exactly why I prefer Versus. It's more fun to me precisely because it's a little less structured and there's a lot less pressure to do really well as the infected. You take your turn working hard to do well as a survivor and the payoff is you get to fuck with the other team for shits and giggles. There's still that pressure to keep the survivor team from getting to the safehouse but I find it more fun overall.
On a different note I just came across a server-side mod that allowed incapped players to use pills and adrenaline to stand up again, requiring no one else. It was awful.
that's a shame because vs and scav are the best modes
this is nonsense
there absolutely is strategy to vs
you're competing against the other team to see who can make it the farthest in the campaign overall
how is there no strategy to that?
infected in vs. Especially with the longer levels and increased difficulty.
Geesh, the fail of logic in this thread :P
sidenote: i am purely purcasing the game because of VS. Of course there are retards in a squad here and there wich won't stick together and run off, wich won't help, etc but that is life. For the most part the game works out. Of course there is that human factor but in most cases its a good thing.
Scavenge sounds interesting, i think its kinda comperable to Counterstrike bomb maps. I have high anticipations.
Also... in the DEMO a lot of people stick around because the DEMO is only one level. You can't really blame them.
Anyone know why this keeps happening?
If I lose my gnome achievement I am going to be sad.
I KISS YOU!
I had 33 of the 50 achievements, woke up to having just 21 of them... *sigh*.:?
Do you have AVG install? If so, replace it with something else or downgrade.
I don't know if this is in response to my post or not, but mine is the PC version, running on a more than capable computer.D:
No, really?
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More observations:
1. The spitter has replaced the tank and smoker as my favorite infected to play as. It's ridiculosuly easy to rack up the damage, especially in campaigns like hard rain where there's lots of choke points in the houses, elevators, etc.
2. Maybe it's just me, but is the game a little too liberal with the stronger weapons? For example, I hardly ever run across a pump shotgun or the less powerful sniper rifle yet it appears there are many more of the SSG rifles and combat/tac shotguns laying around. I guess I just think that the survivors (in campaign and/or vs) should work for the upper-tier weapons. Of course, I'm still trying to master the campaigns on normal, perhaps advanced or survival is more stingy?
3. Is it wrong to get a boner when I see the female version of the boomer?
If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Oh I get you now.
I think the achievements thing is over, not that it matters much.
I way prefer the better graphics of the PC regardless...achievements are just thin frosting for me.
Before you say anything, I used to have a 360, and thought the visuals couldn't be that different, oh, I was so wrong. (PC all the way for me now...unless it's something that is only on my PS3)
No not at all...it's that Spitter that is an unholy terror from the depths of darkest hell.D: (Although I love to use her...so fun)
As I said 8 posts ago, you don't need to reinstall or downgrade. You just need to disable the avgtray.exe
I quickly shoot in it's direction, hoping to get it before it attracts any horde. I happen to hit it square in the ass, which rips open, literally starts crapping blood. The clown tries to grab it and then squats backward and falls dead. I almost died laughing at that. I love what they've done to up the gore on this game.
Edit: Oh and I need some PA'ers to play this with. I tried a pub match yesterday and found a good team to play with. Except one guy, being cool the whole game decides to let the 3 of us who are incapped die at the finale and just escape solo. Jerk.
Playing the Dark Carnival Finale I went near the microphone and Ellis start singing.
That's just gold right there.
This totally hasn't been discussed all thread and didn't get a meta-thread spawned.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZxqSKLDisM
Remember you can throw the gnome over fences. in II you can throw it from just before the panic event to the entrance of the safehouse, in III you can throw it after the first bend of the rollercoaster onto the final platform, and in IV you can throw it right into the final stretch of the panic event from just after the bumpercars.
It makes it a lot easier, especially on higher difficulty settings.
That's what I did. Couldn't get past the panic even of IV on Advanced and I had to leave at that point anyways. So close!
The problem is, a video just shows what the game looks like, and random dudes talking about random stuff that you don't really have a context for. You can't really get a feel for how it... er... feels to play. The ramp up in tension during panic events, tanks and witches. How the teamwork all comes together so naturally (unless you know, your team mates are jerks). How awesome it is to make it through the tough parts and stick together right to the end.
We had us a good Gnome run JK.
Although next time I'm not guarding you three whilst you insist on playing every carny game we came across.
I wouldn't try to get the gnome achievement until Valve irons out the problems with achievements vanishing.
I got it on my first run through Dark Carnival and I lost that and the Dark Carnival achievement.
Its not like they were hard but getting the gnome one again will be a pain, and I was quite proud of the achievement for preventing the survivors getting any cans at all in scavenge.
Things I've noticed:
1. There seems to be more static zombies now, and a greater number on swarms.
2. The increased gore is both dynamic and a good addition. The downside is that sometimes armless zombies will still come after you, so I've found myself using the "double tap" rule
3. The variety of weapons gives you a lot more options. Unfortunately I've found that it takes me longer to decide what characteristics I prefer.
4. The difficulty is greater across the board (we spent 1hr on the Dead Center finale alone).
5. The new infected are great for mixing up the threat, except that I hate the Jockey with a passion.
I still haven't gotten my expert clears in L4D1 back. It's been over 6 months.
edit: Assuming you're Australian and this isn't something that's affected people worldwide.