keeping it between apple vs. everyone else in the mobile sphere kept the fighting down, but microsoft vs. apple. vs everyone else is liable to be more chaotic
(nokia is, I daresay, really microsoft's proxy here)
hey guys, should I make a thread letting people here know that 3-day PAX badges sold out in like four hours already? I know a lot of people in D&D do care, and wouldn't want to miss at least the 1-day badges, but might not think they needed to pounce that fast and monitor the PAX site and forums that closely?
I wonder how much of that is scalpers?
I bought a Friday and Saturday pass, even though I'm fairly sure I have a friend with a spare three-day. Probably end up reselling those.
According to the twitter, average sale size was only 1.7 (max of 5).
So some, probably, but not as much as we'd like to think. It really just sells out that fast now.
I'll be surprised if Saturday badges make it to the weekend.
Scalpers regularly employ large groups of people to get the tickets because of per-person maximums. What would be more telling is how many of those sales were 5 ticket sales? Bet you 90% of those sales are to scalpers.
I suspect scalpers, while a problem, are a tiny percentage of overall ticket sales.
PAX is very, very, very popular and becomes more popular each year. It is also very cheap, so the requirements for entry are extremely low and attendance is easy to manage (aside from buying a ticket, of course).
There is a good solution to this, of course, but "raising prices" doesn't really have that "FUCK THE MAN!" feeling.
One of the things that PAX is supposed to be about is being accessible to the masses.
I think the smarter thing would be to sell only one-day passes, honestly, and have a few repeat panels and things in order to discourage people from going all three days, and allow more people to attend.
To be honest, if you can't afford $100-ish for a 3 day pass I doubt you have enough disposable income to make a trip to Seattle in support of a tech-focused and expensive hobby. I realize plenty of people squeeze pennies to make it happen, but for most people attending PAX the cost of the ticket is fairly small compared to the cost of trip.
Right now, the tickets are sold based on:
-Who clicks first
and
-Who pays $65
Raising the price would just adjust that equilibrium so "clicking first" is less important as the "pay X" amount becomes the more deciding factor.
I realize that raising prices is an extremely unpopular solution, but is "give tickets to people who are best at camping the website" a better solution?
I have no personal stake in this, because I like cheap tickets, I can afford more expensive tickets, and UNLIKE A CERTAIN FORUMER I KNOW I was responsible and purchased my 3 day pass as soon as it was available to prevent missing out.
nitpick: saying "not many people will be squeezed out" is inconsistent with "raising the price will reduce demand"
Also, switching to one-day-only passes is a de facto price increase.
I kinda feel bad for them. They don't really look or sound like they're enjoying it. If I was with a lady and she was acting the way those raccoons were, I'd feel so emasculated.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Ok, PAX tickets bought. Just going on Saturday this year, but as usual I'll be about for hangouts pretty much the entirety of PAX week.
hey guys, should I make a thread letting people here know that 3-day PAX badges sold out in like four hours already? I know a lot of people in D&D do care, and wouldn't want to miss at least the 1-day badges, but might not think they needed to pounce that fast and monitor the PAX site and forums that closely?
I wonder how much of that is scalpers?
I bought a Friday and Saturday pass, even though I'm fairly sure I have a friend with a spare three-day. Probably end up reselling those.
According to the twitter, average sale size was only 1.7 (max of 5).
So some, probably, but not as much as we'd like to think. It really just sells out that fast now.
I'll be surprised if Saturday badges make it to the weekend.
Scalpers regularly employ large groups of people to get the tickets because of per-person maximums. What would be more telling is how many of those sales were 5 ticket sales? Bet you 90% of those sales are to scalpers.
I suspect scalpers, while a problem, are a tiny percentage of overall ticket sales.
PAX is very, very, very popular and becomes more popular each year. It is also very cheap, so the requirements for entry are extremely low and attendance is easy to manage (aside from buying a ticket, of course).
There is a good solution to this, of course, but "raising prices" doesn't really have that "FUCK THE MAN!" feeling.
One of the things that PAX is supposed to be about is being accessible to the masses.
I think the smarter thing would be to sell only one-day passes, honestly, and have a few repeat panels and things in order to discourage people from going all three days, and allow more people to attend.
To be honest, if you can't afford $100-ish for a 3 day pass I doubt you have enough disposable income to make a trip to Seattle in support of a tech-focused and expensive hobby. I realize plenty of people squeeze pennies to make it happen, but for most people attending PAX the cost of the ticket is fairly small compared to the cost of trip.
Right now, the tickets are sold based on:
-Who clicks first
and
-Who pays $65
Raising the price would just adjust that equilibrium so "clicking first" is less important as the "pay X" amount becomes the more deciding factor.
I realize that raising prices is an extremely unpopular solution, but is "give tickets to people who are best at camping the website" a better solution?
I have no personal stake in this, because I like cheap tickets, I can afford more expensive tickets, and UNLIKE A CERTAIN FORUMER I KNOW I was responsible and purchased my 3 day pass as soon as it was available to prevent missing out.
nitpick: saying "not many people will be squeezed out" is inconsistent with "raising the price will reduce demand"
Its true, just worded incredibly badly, depending on what "squeezed out" means
Ideally you'd be cutting out people who go to PAX with a 3 day pass because its such a bargain, not because they really really really love PAX.
I know there's crossover, but there's obviously a group of consumers who will go to PAX for $65 but not $75, $105, or $150. Part of that group will be people who cannot afford the increase, and part will be people who can afford it but make a value decision that PAX is not worth more than $65.
and all of these patent cases will likely be argued in front of judges who don't know how to sign up for gmail.
I wonder how many of these suits involve filing for ex parte reexamination with the patent office in order to open up another front on the validity of the patents?
hey guys, should I make a thread letting people here know that 3-day PAX badges sold out in like four hours already? I know a lot of people in D&D do care, and wouldn't want to miss at least the 1-day badges, but might not think they needed to pounce that fast and monitor the PAX site and forums that closely?
I wonder how much of that is scalpers?
I bought a Friday and Saturday pass, even though I'm fairly sure I have a friend with a spare three-day. Probably end up reselling those.
According to the twitter, average sale size was only 1.7 (max of 5).
So some, probably, but not as much as we'd like to think. It really just sells out that fast now.
I'll be surprised if Saturday badges make it to the weekend.
Scalpers regularly employ large groups of people to get the tickets because of per-person maximums. What would be more telling is how many of those sales were 5 ticket sales? Bet you 90% of those sales are to scalpers.
I suspect scalpers, while a problem, are a tiny percentage of overall ticket sales.
PAX is very, very, very popular and becomes more popular each year. It is also very cheap, so the requirements for entry are extremely low and attendance is easy to manage (aside from buying a ticket, of course).
There is a good solution to this, of course, but "raising prices" doesn't really have that "FUCK THE MAN!" feeling.
One of the things that PAX is supposed to be about is being accessible to the masses.
I think the smarter thing would be to sell only one-day passes, honestly, and have a few repeat panels and things in order to discourage people from going all three days, and allow more people to attend.
To be honest, if you can't afford $100-ish for a 3 day pass I doubt you have enough disposable income to make a trip to Seattle in support of a tech-focused and expensive hobby. I realize plenty of people squeeze pennies to make it happen, but for most people attending PAX the cost of the ticket is fairly small compared to the cost of trip.
Right now, the tickets are sold based on:
-Who clicks first
and
-Who pays $65
Raising the price would just adjust that equilibrium so "clicking first" is less important as the "pay X" amount becomes the more deciding factor.
I realize that raising prices is an extremely unpopular solution, but is "give tickets to people who are best at camping the website" a better solution?
I have no personal stake in this, because I like cheap tickets, I can afford more expensive tickets, and UNLIKE A CERTAIN FORUMER I KNOW I was responsible and purchased my 3 day pass as soon as it was available to prevent missing out.
Raising the prices wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe also staggering sales over a period of time. Sell the three day tickets over a period of time. Maybe also limit them to 3 tickets now instead of 5.
I wish there was a bigger place to put it since that would help a lot as well. But I understand there really isn't. Maybe also have a returning ticket sale? You get an idea number after you check in at pax to let you buy 1 ticket before everyone else? It would be a way for those who have come before to get a ticket.
Really though this year was probably not going to happen for me anyway. Grad school+money+internship+thesis research makes it hard for me to spent 800 dollars on a 3-4 day weekend.
Mah lady friend knows how to write resumes. So I can e-mail her all the data of work experience and she can group it together all pretty like.
Huzzah!
My career services office is a godsend, and I get everything, and I mean everything, vetted by them before I send it out. I'm also really nice to them and bring them cookies because they're so helpful.
Mah lady friend knows how to write resumes. So I can e-mail her all the data of work experience and she can group it together all pretty like.
Huzzah!
My career services office is a godsend, and I get everything, and I mean everything, vetted by them before I send it out. I'm also really nice to them and bring them cookies because they're so helpful.
That is an idea.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Roasting a turkey tenderloin for dinner.
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
Mah lady friend knows how to write resumes. So I can e-mail her all the data of work experience and she can group it together all pretty like.
Huzzah!
My career services office is a godsend, and I get everything, and I mean everything, vetted by them before I send it out. I'm also really nice to them and bring them cookies because they're so helpful.
Mine is as well. I need to write and take a some cover letters in.
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
Raising the prices wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe also staggering sales over a period of time. Sell the three day tickets over a period of time. Maybe also limit them to 3 tickets now instead of 5.
I wish there was a bigger place to put it since that would help a lot as well. But I understand there really isn't. Maybe also have a returning ticket sale? You get an idea number after you check in at pax to let you buy 1 ticket before everyone else? It would be a way for those who have come before to get a ticket.
Really though this year was probably not going to happen for me anyway. Grad school+money+internship+thesis research makes it hard for me to spent 800 dollars on a 3-4 day weekend.
I do not understand why you would want to give an advantage to people who have gone before over people who have never gone before...?
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
Turkey seems like it would be too bland for chili.
Mah lady friend knows how to write resumes. So I can e-mail her all the data of work experience and she can group it together all pretty like.
Huzzah!
My career services office is a godsend, and I get everything, and I mean everything, vetted by them before I send it out. I'm also really nice to them and bring them cookies because they're so helpful.
Mine is as well. I need to write and take a some cover letters in.
Too many of my peers think of career services as a job placement agency, and gripe about them constantly.
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
Turkey seems like it would be too bland for chili.
But then, I tend to make pretty spicy chili.
But it makes meat dinners so much more healthy. Turkey meatloaf with crusty feta cheese on top is so delicious.
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Raising the prices wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe also staggering sales over a period of time. Sell the three day tickets over a period of time. Maybe also limit them to 3 tickets now instead of 5.
I wish there was a bigger place to put it since that would help a lot as well. But I understand there really isn't. Maybe also have a returning ticket sale? You get an idea number after you check in at pax to let you buy 1 ticket before everyone else? It would be a way for those who have come before to get a ticket.
Really though this year was probably not going to happen for me anyway. Grad school+money+internship+thesis research makes it hard for me to spent 800 dollars on a 3-4 day weekend.
I do not understand why you would want to give an advantage to people who have gone before over people who have never gone before...?
Because I am being selfish. Not a real idea.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
Turkey seems like it would be too bland for chili.
But then, I tend to make pretty spicy chili.
But it makes meat dinners so much more healthy. Turkey meatloaf with crusty feta cheese on top is so delicious.
I usually just reduce the amount of meat. Unless it's the main thing without a lot of big spices, I don't much go for turkey, just too bland. Excepting when I can get my hands on some good dark meat, that can be good.
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
Turkey seems like it would be too bland for chili.
But then, I tend to make pretty spicy chili.
But it makes meat dinners so much more healthy. Turkey meatloaf with crusty feta cheese on top is so delicious.
I usually just reduce the amount of meat. Unless it's the main thing without a lot of big spices, I don't much go for turkey, just too bland. Excepting when I can get my hands on some good dark meat, that can be good.
There are dishes involving meat where meat isn't the main thing? :shock:
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@Deebaser How was the wedding/honeymoon? How is married life thus far?
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Good good good. We did Atlantis today. I swear to God that place was designed as a compromise between an adult resort and disneyworld.
The water park was nice, but dumb expensive. It cost 4.5 PAX three day passes between the two of us. There were no lines though, so that was pretty sweet.
Staying in the shade tomorrow. The sun has not been kind to my pale white ass.
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Mah lady friend knows how to write resumes. So I can e-mail her all the data of work experience and she can group it together all pretty like.
Huzzah!
This
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amazing.
(nokia is, I daresay, really microsoft's proxy here)
I kinda feel bad for them. They don't really look or sound like they're enjoying it. If I was with a lady and she was acting the way those raccoons were, I'd feel so emasculated.
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The fuck??
Its true, just worded incredibly badly, depending on what "squeezed out" means
Ideally you'd be cutting out people who go to PAX with a 3 day pass because its such a bargain, not because they really really really love PAX.
I know there's crossover, but there's obviously a group of consumers who will go to PAX for $65 but not $75, $105, or $150. Part of that group will be people who cannot afford the increase, and part will be people who can afford it but make a value decision that PAX is not worth more than $65.
I wonder how many of these suits involve filing for ex parte reexamination with the patent office in order to open up another front on the validity of the patents?
Don't let Ricky Gervais see that.
Well, each day is $35, so....
Also, the three day passes are sold out, so not like it matters.
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yeah it's like preposterously cheap. it's a tenth (or less) of the whole trip for most people i know.
Raising the prices wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe also staggering sales over a period of time. Sell the three day tickets over a period of time. Maybe also limit them to 3 tickets now instead of 5.
I wish there was a bigger place to put it since that would help a lot as well. But I understand there really isn't. Maybe also have a returning ticket sale? You get an idea number after you check in at pax to let you buy 1 ticket before everyone else? It would be a way for those who have come before to get a ticket.
Really though this year was probably not going to happen for me anyway. Grad school+money+internship+thesis research makes it hard for me to spent 800 dollars on a 3-4 day weekend.
My career services office is a godsend, and I get everything, and I mean everything, vetted by them before I send it out. I'm also really nice to them and bring them cookies because they're so helpful.
That is an idea.
Never done turkey tenderloin before, dunno what it's like.
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Mine is as well. I need to write and take a some cover letters in.
My guess is "delicious".
That's like a mid range bottle of wine at a restaurant
Good decision!
I had turkey chili assembled from what I could find in the pantry. It turned out more Italian style than the TexMex I was going for, but it was still delicious.
debasement, diocletian, etc. etc.
Turkey seems like it would be too bland for chili.
But then, I tend to make pretty spicy chili.
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Too many of my peers think of career services as a job placement agency, and gripe about them constantly.
Finding a job is hard work. Get used to it.
That's actually a really great idea. That way when scalpers buy the tickets they are directly helping a charity.
But it makes meat dinners so much more healthy. Turkey meatloaf with crusty feta cheese on top is so delicious.
Because I am being selfish. Not a real idea.
I usually just reduce the amount of meat. Unless it's the main thing without a lot of big spices, I don't much go for turkey, just too bland. Excepting when I can get my hands on some good dark meat, that can be good.
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There are dishes involving meat where meat isn't the main thing? :shock:
Holy shit.
Like, hell, I'm pretty sure chili even qualifies
Good good good. We did Atlantis today. I swear to God that place was designed as a compromise between an adult resort and disneyworld.
The water park was nice, but dumb expensive. It cost 4.5 PAX three day passes between the two of us. There were no lines though, so that was pretty sweet.
Staying in the shade tomorrow. The sun has not been kind to my pale white ass.
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