but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.
Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.
Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.
Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.
So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
fury also says he's dead when the medic team is on the way
he decides to use coulson's death as their rallying moment
occam's razor yo
No you're wrong about that and this is the thing that makes me most suspicious
Fury doesn't say he's dead before the EMT's get there. The EMT's arrive and it cuts to him informing the Avengers. It appears(though its arguable) that the calling scene is a direct continuation of the scene. Fury then says that "The EMT's called him". That seems like a slightly strange thing for someone who just watched the character die to say. Not super unusual but for some reason I find it strange. If it is a continuation though he's saying it as the EMT's arrive.
So yeah.
God I love "Lost my one good eye"
From that story awhile ago I love that the Actors seem to have had quite a bit of influence in the script.
but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.
Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.
Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.
Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.
So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
fury also says he's dead when the medic team is on the way
he decides to use coulson's death as their rallying moment
occam's razor yo
No you're wrong about that and this is the thing that makes me most suspicious
Fury doesn't say he's dead before the EMT's get there. The EMT's arrive and it cuts to him informing the Avengers. It appears(though its arguable) that the calling scene is a direct continuation of the scene. Fury then says that "The EMT's called him". That seems like a slightly strange thing for someone who just watched the character die to say. Not super unusual but for some reason I find it strange. If it is a continuation though he's saying it as the EMT's arrive.
So yeah.
God I love "Lost my one good eye"
From that story awhile ago I love that the Actors seem to have had quite a bit of influence in the script.
It wasn't improvised like the Iron Man films were. First they'd do some takes from the script, Whedon would talk to the actors to get their impressions then he'd write the scene with a few variations and they'd shoot them all the best being kept for the film. What's amazing is the original script didn't hold up during filming. Whedon had to constantly write new material for the actors. I think hate helped is that the plot had specific beats Whedon and Marvel agreed upon, so they always knew the plan to avoid the film going to places they hadn't expected.
My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.
I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."
Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.
but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.
Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.
Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.
Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.
So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
fury also says he's dead when the medic team is on the way
he decides to use coulson's death as their rallying moment
occam's razor yo
No you're wrong about that and this is the thing that makes me most suspicious
Fury doesn't say he's dead before the EMT's get there. The EMT's arrive and it cuts to him informing the Avengers. It appears(though its arguable) that the calling scene is a direct continuation of the scene. Fury then says that "The EMT's called him". That seems like a slightly strange thing for someone who just watched the character die to say. Not super unusual but for some reason I find it strange. If it is a continuation though he's saying it as the EMT's arrive.
So yeah.
God I love "Lost my one good eye"
From that story awhile ago I love that the Actors seem to have had quite a bit of influence in the script.
Actually
Fury doesn't say "The EMTs called him"
the line is "The EMTs called it in"
which is a common expression for saying they called the official time of death
but they plant plenty of seeds for the "Coulson not actually dead" concept.
Coulson straight up says "They need something to rally behind" then the paramedics rush in.
Fury tosses down the cards covered in blood and says they were in his pocket, but they were actually from his locker.
Fury repeats the line about them needing something to rally behind.
So yeah it could easily be all a big hoax to get the kids to play together.
fury also says he's dead when the medic team is on the way
he decides to use coulson's death as their rallying moment
occam's razor yo
No you're wrong about that and this is the thing that makes me most suspicious
Fury doesn't say he's dead before the EMT's get there. The EMT's arrive and it cuts to him informing the Avengers. It appears(though its arguable) that the calling scene is a direct continuation of the scene. Fury then says that "The EMT's called him". That seems like a slightly strange thing for someone who just watched the character die to say. Not super unusual but for some reason I find it strange. If it is a continuation though he's saying it as the EMT's arrive.
So yeah.
God I love "Lost my one good eye"
From that story awhile ago I love that the Actors seem to have had quite a bit of influence in the script.
Actually
Fury doesn't say "The EMTs called him"
the line is "The EMTs called it in"
which is a common expression for saying they called the official time of death
Both are.
At least I've seen it both way in movies.
But if someone died in front of me I'd have just said he was dead. That I've seen him die.
Just seems weird is all. Like, he appears to die before the EMT's even get there.
Wouldn't the real comparison have to be The Avengers VS a theoretical Justice League movie?
Green Lantern called.
I'd pass on the message, but it was mostly just sobbing incoherently.
I fully expect Justice league movie. Its going to be literally a pile of shit make no sense and basically be the batman superman movie but Warner brothers has no option but to do it now.
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My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.
I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."
Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.
Please tell me you aren't serious.
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the whole theater laughed really really hard and i did too because we all understood that we were not watching documentary film footage
It pretty much has to be(About the JL movie). Press releases regarding their plans already show they have no idea why the Marvel method worked and are making some big ass mistakes while they are at it.
Like they have already said that the plan is to start with a JL movie and spin people off from that. They say that their characters are just more well known then Marvel and don't need in episodes. They arn't even wrong about the first part. What they arn't getting is that Avengers saves a lot of really important running time by not having to explain the characters. They are just there. Because you know they are already.
I think its pretty unquestionable that Superman and Batman are the most well known comic characters.
However when you factor that Marvel couldn't use their most well known characters and DC could literal use two of those characters I think it is clear who has the advantage.
I think its pretty unquestionable that Superman and Batman are the most well known comic characters.
However when you factor that Marvel couldn't use their most well known characters and DC could literal use two of those characters I think it is clear who has the advantage.
In my experience, it's Spidey, Supes, and Batman. Then you drop off a lot to...
Hmm. Math is probably way different now, with the Avengers. I mean, the top three are still the top three, but beyond that, Iron Man and Cap are probably way ahead of where they were.
The Hulk is actually very well known and should be right up there with Batman and Spider-Man and Superman
He always seems the tiniest step down in notoriety.
Like if there's a name a superhero game, you ask someone who doesn't know comics at all for one, you get Batman, Superman, or Spider-Man. Ask for four, they get to the Hulk.
Batman has always been tops for me. I dressed up as him growing up tons of times. Loved the Burton films as a kid, and now as a 23 year old I love the Nolan films.
I'm not arguing. I'm just saying that when it comes to Avengers vs JL characters the JL characters have the advantage when it comes to how well known they are.
Well, just about everyone knows Batman and Superman's origin, and most people understand the whole Wonder Woman thing (she had a tv show). The bigger problem with doing movies based on a lot of the other DC characters is that their origin stories are...well, kind of weak. I mean, I've read a lot of comics and to the best of my knowledge, Flash's origin is "hit by lightning, goes fast." There's no real need for a defining story for guys like the Flash.
I mean, it's down to the core difference between how Marvel does things and how DC does things, at a very generalized level. DC's always emphasized how their characters are iconic (which is why there are waaaaaaaaaay more legacy characters in DC than Marvel), which helps them stick in the public's consciousness for as long as they have. Marvel does more work emphasizing how their characters have flaws and personalities that are as important as their powers are in defining them, which makes it a little tougher to get people up to speed on who everyone is and what they're about.
And I know, that's an incredible generalization, and it's not true for everything, but it's why I think DC could probably get away with just kicking everything off with a Justice League movie. Hell, I mean, a lot of DC's characters might only work if they get lumped in with Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman right at the start. I mean, Hawkman/Hawkgirl? That shit is weird. And Martian Manhunter's origin would work really well as part of the plot of a big team movie like Justice League anyways.
But given DC's track record in movies, I don't have a whole lot of faith in their ability to pull it off. Outside of Nolan's Batman movies, they've shown a remarkable inability to translate what makes their characters so enduring in comics and cartoons and translate that to a movie. It's really disheartening.
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My step-mother was one of those odd people who thought it was HILARIOUS when Hulk picked up Loki and slammed him around on the ground. Like, the theater erupted in laughter. I told her that I thought it was disturbing that everyone was laughing at a dude getting savagely beaten.
I mean, yeah, beat the shit out of Loki, he pretty much deserves it, but I don't see how it was as side-splittingly funny as the rest of the theater did. She related our conversation about that to her brother when we got home, and he told me, with anger in his voice, that I "read too much liberal bullshit."
Then he started talking about how that's what the american people want to do all these dictators. The man watches way too much Fox News.
Please tell me you aren't serious.
the whole theater laughed really really hard and i did too because we all understood that we were not watching documentary film footage
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Green Lantern called.
I'd pass on the message, but it was mostly just sobbing incoherently.
Why I fear the ocean.
No you're wrong about that and this is the thing that makes me most suspicious
So yeah.
God I love "Lost my one good eye"
From that story awhile ago I love that the Actors seem to have had quite a bit of influence in the script.
"Leave me alone"
"HULK SMASH"
"Betty.."
Avengers
"Puny God"[/spoiler[
Does "Your Life" count?
Please tell me you aren't serious.
Actually
the line is "The EMTs called it in"
which is a common expression for saying they called the official time of death
FINE I WAS WRONG
Both are.
At least I've seen it both way in movies.
Just seems weird is all. Like, he appears to die before the EMT's even get there.
I fully expect Justice league movie. Its going to be literally a pile of shit make no sense and basically be the batman superman movie but Warner brothers has no option but to do it now.
Please tell me you aren't serious.
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the whole theater laughed really really hard and i did too because we all understood that we were not watching documentary film footage
EDIT: FUCK YOU TLB
Like they have already said that the plan is to start with a JL movie and spin people off from that. They say that their characters are just more well known then Marvel and don't need in episodes. They arn't even wrong about the first part. What they arn't getting is that Avengers saves a lot of really important running time by not having to explain the characters. They are just there. Because you know they are already.
Yeah I said that. They are right about that but were still talking about loading in even more to a movie that is bound to be over stuffed as it is.
the fact that that movie will never exist just kind of hammers the point home further
GG
DON'T FUCK WITH ME WHEN IT COMES TO HULK TALK
HULK TALK IS MY MOTHERFUCKING JAM
However when you factor that Marvel couldn't use their most well known characters and DC could literal use two of those characters I think it is clear who has the advantage.
Unfortunately, Flash and Aquaman are known for being useless
Green Lantern is known for a shitty movie
and Wonder Woman is known for a pretty sweet theme song
Who thinks Flash is useless?
HOW USEFUL IS RUNNING FAST
(this is everyone who doesn't read a comic)
In my experience, it's Spidey, Supes, and Batman. Then you drop off a lot to...
Hmm. Math is probably way different now, with the Avengers. I mean, the top three are still the top three, but beyond that, Iron Man and Cap are probably way ahead of where they were.
Why I fear the ocean.
HULK THOUGHT EVERYONE KNOW WHO HULK IS
Which leaves Marvel with the Hulk, a God from another dimension, a war profiteer, and symbol of American patriotism.
Without the movie that is.
If GL had a good showing(like they expected) then they'd have the instant audience from Superman and Batman and Green Lantern.
Wonder Woman is pretty popular and I've never seen people complain much about Flash.
To bad that the build up movies served several other purposes.
or is he just ruined forever
I don't care who knows
again
He always seems the tiniest step down in notoriety.
Like if there's a name a superhero game, you ask someone who doesn't know comics at all for one, you get Batman, Superman, or Spider-Man. Ask for four, they get to the Hulk.
Why I fear the ocean.
I mean they had the Hulk.
That's it!
I mean, it's down to the core difference between how Marvel does things and how DC does things, at a very generalized level. DC's always emphasized how their characters are iconic (which is why there are waaaaaaaaaay more legacy characters in DC than Marvel), which helps them stick in the public's consciousness for as long as they have. Marvel does more work emphasizing how their characters have flaws and personalities that are as important as their powers are in defining them, which makes it a little tougher to get people up to speed on who everyone is and what they're about.
And I know, that's an incredible generalization, and it's not true for everything, but it's why I think DC could probably get away with just kicking everything off with a Justice League movie. Hell, I mean, a lot of DC's characters might only work if they get lumped in with Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman right at the start. I mean, Hawkman/Hawkgirl? That shit is weird. And Martian Manhunter's origin would work really well as part of the plot of a big team movie like Justice League anyways.
But given DC's track record in movies, I don't have a whole lot of faith in their ability to pull it off. Outside of Nolan's Batman movies, they've shown a remarkable inability to translate what makes their characters so enduring in comics and cartoons and translate that to a movie. It's really disheartening.
Satans..... hints.....
Like who would they have be the villain and such?