The Avengers don't want Hope because she is a mutant they want Hope because the Phoenix Force is heading to her and can kill everything
I don't understand why this is even a problem, honestly.
The Avengers defeat / murder Gods and a variety of other cosmic existential threats on a daily basis. Hell, they're probably letting a few of them sharpen their fangs while they distract themselves fighting the X-Men.
Why not just roll-up the Pheonix Force (surely between Wanda & Strange it would more or less be a non-issue?) and call her a day?
They're trying that, too. Getting Hope is the backup plan that they put into action even as Thor lead an Avengers team against the Phoenix Force while its still in space. Captain America is taking no chances, since the Phoenix Force has already destroyed several worlds recently.
Well they're kinda trying to do that by sending a team out in space to try and stop the Phoenix Force or at least slow it down long enough to get Hope off-planet.
I'm just not sure Cap game plan here. He knows what happens when you piss off the receptacle of God-like power.
The line flows from Cable > Hope. And they just beat up Cable (who fired the first volley), while Cyclops tried to cool the situation down. What made Cap think showing up at Hope's home with a Helicarrier was going to work?
AvX makes no sense. They wanted the drama without doing the work of justifying it in the story.
The Avengers don't want Hope because she is a mutant they want Hope because the Phoenix Force is heading to her and can kill everything
I don't understand why this is even a problem, honestly.
The Avengers defeat / murder Gods and a variety of other cosmic existential threats on a daily basis. Hell, they're probably letting a few of them sharpen their fangs while they distract themselves fighting the X-Men.
Why not just roll-up the Pheonix Force (surely between Wanda & Strange it would more or less be a non-issue?) and call her a day?
They're trying that, too. Getting Hope is the backup plan that they put into action even as Thor lead an Avengers team against the Phoenix Force while its still in space. Captain America is taking no chances, since the Phoenix Force has already destroyed several worlds recently.
...Whacking the Pheonix with Mjölnir was the best 'plan' Cap could come up with? Not, say, having Dr. Strange lock it away in a pocket dimension? Or having Wanda wish forth a bunch of extra space for the Pheonix to have to travel through?
"Thor, go hit it with your hammer. This plan is my most cunning yet and cannot possibly fail."
The Avengers don't want Hope because she is a mutant they want Hope because the Phoenix Force is heading to her and can kill everything
I don't understand why this is even a problem, honestly.
The Avengers defeat / murder Gods and a variety of other cosmic existential threats on a daily basis. Hell, they're probably letting a few of them sharpen their fangs while they distract themselves fighting the X-Men.
Why not just roll-up the Pheonix Force (surely between Wanda & Strange it would more or less be a non-issue?) and call her a day?
They're trying that, too. Getting Hope is the backup plan that they put into action even as Thor lead an Avengers team against the Phoenix Force while its still in space. Captain America is taking no chances, since the Phoenix Force has already destroyed several worlds recently.
...Whacking the Pheonix with Mjölnir was the best 'plan' Cap could come up with? Not, say, having Dr. Strange lock it away in a pocket dimension? Or having Wanda wish forth a bunch of extra space for the Pheonix to have to travel through?
"Thor, go hit it with your hammer. This plan is my most cunning yet and cannot possibly fail."
No their plan was to use some sort of energy net to trap the Phoenix. It didn't work.
cyclops is going to probably succeed in that decimation will in all liklihood be reversed
but I think it will be a case of that happened despite, rather than because of, his plans
Yeah but I mean
the Avengers don't lose if that happens
they are not anti-mutant
really it is a win-win thing
True, but if Hope is the rebirth for the mutant race, than Cyke was right, and there was no need for Cap's full court press. That'd be a loss for Cap personally, and for the entire Avengers crew for falling in lockstep behind him.
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So apparently the current Wolverine arc is about Mystique teaming up with the Hellfire Club to take down the Jean Grey school. Someone tell me this is terrible so I don't have to go picking up back issues next week.
So apparently the current Wolverine arc is about Mystique teaming up with the Hellfire Club to take down the Jean Grey school. Someone tell me this is terrible so I don't have to go picking up back issues next week.
That must be an upcoming arc... that's definitely not going in Wolverine right now, unless my LCS is way behind somehow.
I really hope it's not another origin story/ re-tweeking of the origin story, retconning of any kind, etc.
Hopefully it just means the first "new" x-men after the Phoenix brings all the mutants back. *Crosses fingers*
It should be that future Uncanny team with Quire, Kid Gladiator, and Idie on it if it's anything like that. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
As much as I like that team, I am really in no hurry to see the X-Men's grimdark future be reinforced by future teams/characters. Now, if they get a book where they over come the grimdarkness and the future of modern day x-men is not a complete poop sandwich, then I'm in.
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They're trying that, too. Getting Hope is the backup plan that they put into action even as Thor lead an Avengers team against the Phoenix Force while its still in space. Captain America is taking no chances, since the Phoenix Force has already destroyed several worlds recently.
See this weeks AvsX #4 preview for how well that is working out.
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The line flows from Cable > Hope. And they just beat up Cable (who fired the first volley), while Cyclops tried to cool the situation down. What made Cap think showing up at Hope's home with a Helicarrier was going to work?
AvX makes no sense. They wanted the drama without doing the work of justifying it in the story.
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"Thor, go hit it with your hammer. This plan is my most cunning yet and cannot possibly fail."
No their plan was to use some sort of energy net to trap the Phoenix. It didn't work.
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Won't be surprised if we get an X-Men "hope spot" though.
but I think it will be a case of that happened despite, rather than because of, his plans
Solar covered my definition of Cyclops winning. WaX outright stated that's all he wants, even if he himself goes down for it.
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the Avengers don't lose if that happens
they are not anti-mutant
really it is a win-win thing
which obviously it will be
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that Infinite issue and NO MORE AVENGERS start with issue 6
there are 12 issues of AvX
Details on Monday
it would have been fine if it was just that Chaykin mini that could be ignored
but no, take up half of every issue of New Avengers for, what, 5 issues?
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Hopefully it just means the first "new" x-men after the Phoenix brings all the mutants back. *Crosses fingers*
It should be that future Uncanny team with Quire, Kid Gladiator, and Idie on it if it's anything like that. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
also I hope Jean Grey is not back
though how the hell were silver sable and kraven even alive back then
that is my biggest problem
also it felt like a slap in the face to the agents of atlas
it was terrible in all ways
especially the art
fuck Howard Chaykin's art so goddamn much
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It also had a super fat Deadpool fight vampires by farting out a Seraphim ala Raiders of the Lost Ark.
What bugs me, is that we already had a 1950's Avengers, and it was called Agents of Atlas.
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Not WatX, actual Wolverine.
Yeah
I mean, I never even read AoA
but they were already there, man!
why steal that thunder?
That must be an upcoming arc... that's definitely not going in Wolverine right now, unless my LCS is way behind somehow.
As much as I like that team, I am really in no hurry to see the X-Men's grimdark future be reinforced by future teams/characters. Now, if they get a book where they over come the grimdarkness and the future of modern day x-men is not a complete poop sandwich, then I'm in.
Based on Wolverine's constant appearances everywhere it would add merit to the expanding earth theory!