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edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
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That's right boys and girl.

The Alien franchise has been picked up, by Sega.
Sega scared gamers when it released Xbox 360 horror game Condemned and now it's going to take things to a whole new level. The company hhas signed a deal for the rights to the alien film franchise, and has already entered pre-production on multiple next-gen Alien titles, including a first-person shooter and an RPG. The first fruits of this deal aren't expected until 2009.

We don't know if actress Sigourney Weaver will reprise her role as Ripley for the games, nor whether they will re-tell the stories of the movies. Direction is bieng provided by proclaimed developer Obsidian Entertainment (KOTOR II), which is handling the Alien RPG (Also appearing on PC). Sega of America president and CEO Simon Jeffery said Obsidian was "the only developer for us that could effectivly combine the Alien mythology with compelling RPG gameplay to create the ultimate Alien experience." The Alien FPS, meanwhile has been handed over to Brothers in Arms developer Gearbox.

On one hand, SEGA is handling it, although Condemned was pretty damn awesome.

On the other, Obsidian making an Alien RPG? Sure why not. Gearbox making an Alien FPS? Fuck yes!

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.

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  • AlpineAlpine Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I fucking loved Condemned, I heartily await this game.

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This is pretty old news. Regardless, I hope both games are awesome. Aliens and Space Marines make for an awesome game.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sega published Condemned.

    The game itself was developed by Monolith.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This is one of those "could be really really awesome or really suck the nuts" kind of things. I'd like to see them break the cycle; the only decent thing to come out of the Alien franchise since the second movie is the AvP stuff (minus that piece of shit of a movie, though).

    Which is sad since I hold Aliens to be the best sci-fi movie evar.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    But Sega DID develop the totally fucking awesome Alien 3 arcade game. Alien 3: The Gun.

    Either way I'm looking forward to this, Alien is one of the few movie franchises that's had a number of consistently above average games based on it.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dusda wrote:
    This is one of those "could be really really awesome or really suck the nuts" kind of things. I'd like to see them break the cycle; the only decent thing to come out of the Alien franchise since the second movie is the AvP stuff (minus that piece of shit of a movie, though).

    Which is sad since I hold Aliens to be the best sci-fi movie evar.

    If you hate Alien 3, the work print that's out now won't turn you into a fan, but if you saw it as wasted potential I'd consider checking it out. It's at least coherent compared to the theatrical version. Personally I think it's great even if it still falls short of the first two films.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    But Sega DID develop the totally fucking awesome Alien 3 arcade game. Alien 3: The Gun.

    Either way I'm looking forward to this, Alien is one of the few movie franchises that's had a number of consistently above average games based on it.
    yeah, i'm not saying "this will suck", by any means. I'm one of the ones that's optimistic for this, as both Obsidian and Gearbox know their way around a game.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The girl who delivered that line in the movie butchered it. She said it like, "theymostlycomeoutatnightmostly", in one breath. WAY TO RUIN IT YOU TALENTLESS BITCH. NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO CAREEER.

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  • DusdaDusda is ashamed of this post SLC, UTRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    Dusda wrote:
    This is one of those "could be really really awesome or really suck the nuts" kind of things. I'd like to see them break the cycle; the only decent thing to come out of the Alien franchise since the second movie is the AvP stuff (minus that piece of shit of a movie, though).

    Which is sad since I hold Aliens to be the best sci-fi movie evar.

    If you hate Alien 3, the work print that's out now won't turn you into a fan, but if you saw it as wasted potential I'd consider checking it out. It's at least coherent compared to the theatrical version. Personally I think it's great even if it still falls short of the first two films.
    I have heard that the director's cut is far better than the theatrical version. I'll pick it up if I see it.

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.
    Didn't the first AvP (PC) do that kind of with the Marine campaign? I remember being scared as fuck when steampipes suddenly made noise or in those hallways with the strobing lights.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    There was Aliens: A Comic Book Adventure which was decent enough in this respect. Same to the old computer (I think there was a C64 one too) Alien game. Whole thing was based around the motion sensor sound effect and you moving the individual crew members of the Nostromo around a primitive blueprint to flush the Alien out one of the airlocks without getting eviscerated.

    Sadly, Alien Resurrection on the PSX began development as a slow paced horror game. The finished product is a below average FPS that doesn't even touch Alien Trilogy in quality.

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  • concreteconcrete Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Alien RPG though. Is there really that much lore in the Alien universe to make anything out of it? Or would they just make stuff up or go the fanfic route

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    I don't know if I'd consider Alien to be Horror or Action. more like Thriller, or Suspense, or AMAZING!

    Aliens though, well thats all about the action.

    I have high hopes for these games, we'll see.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.
    Didn't the first AvP (PC) do that kind of with the Marine campaign? I remember being scared as fuck when steampipes suddenly made noise or in those hallways with the strobing lights.[/quote]

    Correct. Major chunks of the marine game are played in almost complete darkness. You have unlimited nightvision but you can't have it and your motion sensor activated at the same time. Awesome game too. I like it more than AvP2 to be honest.

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    concrete wrote:
    Alien RPG though. Is there really that much lore in the Alien universe to make anything out of it? Or would they just make stuff up or go the fanfic route
    There's an entire book dedicated to USCM weaponry and equipment with obscenely detailed specifications and diagrams.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    concrete wrote:
    Alien RPG though. Is there really that much lore in the Alien universe to make anything out of it?

    Yes actually. It's out of print but there was even a Colonial Marine Technical Manual at one point. Its information based far more off the film Aliens specifically and James Cameron's notes on it rather than, say, a lot of the Star Trek technical manuals that have come out. There's a lot of information to be gathered from the first two movies.

    Twisted: You're awesome. :^:

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    ya the Marine campaign for AvP1 scared the shit out of me.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Multiplayer wasn't fantastic, but I loved that AvP Gold added in multiplayer maps for a lot of Alien and Alien 3 style settings (the Nostromo landing site especially was fantastic).

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  • DoronronDoronron Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    HR Giger Aliens lend themselves to pant-shitting moments no matter the genre of game, though. All that's needed to make this game scary is for the designers to give you five bullets, then drop you into a room with six facehuggers.

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  • MasaMasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Cool!
    I'll be able to use my Nostromo... while on the Nostromo.
    har har har

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    But Sega DID develop the totally fucking awesome Alien 3 arcade game. Alien 3: The Gun.

    Either way I'm looking forward to this, Alien is one of the few movie franchises that's had a number of consistently above average games based on it.

    That was a god-damn awesome game, one of the last rail shooters I really enjoyed, especially while laughing at player 2's expense when he thought you were supposed to shoot the prisoners.

    There are so many conceivable ways to make a good Alien game it's ridiculous. Even in first-person, they could still go the Penumbra route and leave you basically unarmed against a handful (or even one) of the things, and thus resorting to unorthodox methods to deal with them. However, a good old-fashioned shoot-em-up would be most excellent, too.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Stolls wrote:
    There are so many conceivable ways to make a good Alien game it's ridiculous. Even in first-person, they could still go the Penumbra route and leave you basically unarmed against a handful (or even one) of the things, and thus resorting to unorthodox methods to deal with them.

    There was a cool little AvP2 mod that worked like this. You had next to nothing for weapony and had to stay out of this main area tha twas crawling with Facehuggers. But there were the dog/runner style aliens to contend with as well.

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  • RoshinRoshin My backlog can be seen from space SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ack, Obsidian getting to do the RPG saddens me. They ran the KOTOR franchise into the ground, then proceeded to backstab the NWN one, and now they are being let loose on the Alien universe. :(

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dusda wrote:
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    Dusda wrote:
    This is one of those "could be really really awesome or really suck the nuts" kind of things. I'd like to see them break the cycle; the only decent thing to come out of the Alien franchise since the second movie is the AvP stuff (minus that piece of shit of a movie, though).

    Which is sad since I hold Aliens to be the best sci-fi movie evar.

    If you hate Alien 3, the work print that's out now won't turn you into a fan, but if you saw it as wasted potential I'd consider checking it out. It's at least coherent compared to the theatrical version. Personally I think it's great even if it still falls short of the first two films.
    I have heard that the director's cut is far better than the theatrical version. I'll pick it up if I see it.
    Technically, it's not a director's cut, just a lot of restored footage.
    Fincher refused to have anything to do with the idea.

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Roshin wrote:
    Ack, Obsidian getting to do the RPG saddens me. They ran the KOTOR franchise into the ground, then proceeded to backstab the NWN one, and now they are being let loose on the Alien universe. :(
    I, er what?

    KOTOR wasn't their fault and the NWN campaign was damn good.

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  • Neo RasaNeo Rasa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    That said, he did watch it and give it his approval.

    Sad thing is how much Warner Bros. butchered the documentary. Fincher is only very rarely seen or heard from on it as a result.

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  • lofloloflo Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The Alien FPS, meanwhile has been handed over to Brothers in Arms developer Gearbox.

    I'm pretty excited about this. The BiA games were great (unskippable amateur philosophical ramblings aside).

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Neo Rasa wrote:
    That said, he did watch it and give it his approval.

    Sad thing is how much Warner Bros. butchered the documentary. Fincher is only very rarely seen or heard from on it as a result.
    That's, uhm, Warner Bros. doesn't own Alien dude, I'm real confused

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  • Arch Guru XXArch Guru XX Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I want to confirm that the Alien 3 extra cut (or whatever you want to call it) from the Alien Quadrilogy set is a notable improvement over the theatrical version. I know you can Netflix it; if it is available as a standalone DVD I would consider picking it up.

    I'm a big AvP fan (the games, not the movie), and I kind of wish that someone would make a marine campaign using the Doom 3 engine. I remember playing Doom 3, and thinking about what the marine levels from AvP1 would be like. Completely fucking awesome is my guess.

    I also agree that AvP1 is better than AvP2, although I understand that isn't the standard view. I'm sure someone knows better than I do, but I believe AvP1 was running on a custom-built engine - you could really see it in the deformable explosions that sent blast waves down corridores, or in the great lighting, or in the water ripples that followed your character. In the Alien campaign demo there was an area with water that had some cigarette cartons floating, and you could move them around in the water semi-realistically. It was really cool. By contrast, AvP2 uses a version of the Lithtech engine that just doesn't duplicate some of the neat effects of the first game, even though on the whole it does look nicer.

    Finally, I think it's worth noting that there actually is more than enough additional lore to drive some solid games. The colonial maries primarily serve coroporate interests, and have been used to put down human resistance movements on various planets. It would also be cool to have a game that involves colonial marines launching and assault on earth to re-take the planet (in Aliens fiction the planet has been effectively taken over by Alien hives). Ride in with your buddies on a dropship and work to retake cities - there's a lot of fun to be had, I think.

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  • IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Doronron wrote:
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    HR Giger Aliens lend themselves to pant-shitting moments no matter the genre of game, though. All that's needed to make this game scary is for the designers to give you five bullets, then drop you into a room with six facehuggers.
    Oh, you bastard.

    :^: :D

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  • DoronronDoronron Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Iriah wrote:
    Doronron wrote:
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    HR Giger Aliens lend themselves to pant-shitting moments no matter the genre of game, though. All that's needed to make this game scary is for the designers to give you five bullets, then drop you into a room with six facehuggers.
    Oh, you bastard.

    :^: :D

    :lol:

    Was waiting for someone to pick up on that.

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  • GoldAgainstTheSoulGoldAgainstTheSoul Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    has there ever been a good alien game?

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  • RemingtonRemington Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    has there ever been a good alien game?

    What?

    ...did you even read the thread?

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Fully expecting the Aliens RPG to have excellent dialogue and an intriguing storyline, but completely mediocre gameplay. Just like every other Black Isle or Obsidian game I've ever played.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm a huge Alien fan.

    I'm excited.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What kind of RPG are talking about here? Action-adventure? Traditional? Strategy?

    RTS!?

    Come to think of it, that series has tons of possibilities.

    Too bad Predator hasn't been so lucky.
    (I own the Genesis Predator 2 though, which I remember liking for some reason.)

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  • MattieMattie Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I am excited.

    In the pants.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Doronron wrote:
    Iriah wrote:
    Doronron wrote:
    Captain K wrote:
    leaf wrote:
    I wish there was a version of this that was made to be more creepy in a horror genre way, rather than run around and kill anything that moves as fast as possible.
    Well, two of the Alien flicks were "action" and two of them were "horror", so it's not like making an action game is an inappropriate use of the franchise.

    But yeah, you're right. It would be nice.

    HR Giger Aliens lend themselves to pant-shitting moments no matter the genre of game, though. All that's needed to make this game scary is for the designers to give you five bullets, then drop you into a room with six facehuggers.
    Oh, you bastard.

    :^: :D

    :lol:

    Was waiting for someone to pick up on that.

    You're given 4 bullets too many.

    Also, I own the tech manual and it does have some awesome info.

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