Yes, don't put any points in energy unless you're rolling an Energy Shield sorceress. It's never enough anyway, as you've seen, and Vitality is simply too important.
Spending 14 * 5 = 70 stat points into Energy probably merits using your first restat, I think. Put them into strength for equipment and vitality instead.
Neither Ice Bolt or Ice Blast do much damage, in lieu of slowing enemies instead. Just pick up a sword and hit things, mixed with an occasional ice bolt/whatever when mana permits.
Damn, really? Where should I put my talent points?
The whole thing is really just shenanigans. I've had temp bans range anywhere from 5 minutes to a half hour.
Edit: Anyone have a cheap 4soc polearm lying around? Not looking for anything spectacular, just need to craft an Insight because all of this corpse exploding is really taking a toll on the mana potions
The whole thing is really just shenanigans. I've had temp bans range anywhere from 5 minutes to a half hour.
Edit: Anyone have a cheap 4soc polearm lying around? Not looking for anything spectacular, just need to craft an Insight because all of this corpse exploding is really taking a toll on the mana potions
Honestly, I would just leech off pub runs as a sorc, lack of mana really sucks early on. It's not like a paladin where you can stuff points into holy fire and stuff just dies.
Look for tombs till you're 20, cows till 24, hopefully someone can help with ancients, then you can baal till you're comfortable going into NM.
Or you can hit stuff.
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edited May 2010
Argh. Didn't realize you were all on East. Three hours and 16 levels in the pooper...
Anyone bored enough to rush a brand new necro tonight? :P
getting a big ol' sword isn't toooo bad an idea. thats how you used to do it before respecs, when you HAD to not spend more than 1 point in basically everything until you had the levels for Meteor or Frozen Orb.
Honestly, I would just leech off pub runs as a sorc, lack of mana really sucks early on. It's not like a paladin where you can stuff points into holy fire and stuff just dies.
Look for tombs till you're 20, cows till 24, hopefully someone can help with ancients, then you can baal till you're comfortable going into NM.
Or you can hit stuff.
So then you agree everything into Vit (except where Str is needed), and Static Field, and Fire spells?
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When I start a new sorc, I give her a Hellforge Hammer for melee - nice low-level damage, and no requirements. Frost nova to slow mobs down until you can smack them with the hammer, static for bosses, maybe Ice Blast or Fireball for long range. Get used to not casting a lot of spells until you can get together a bunch of +mana items and/or an Insight merc.
When I start a new sorc, I give her a Hellforge Hammer for melee - nice low-level damage, and no requirements. Frost nova to slow mobs down until you can smack them with the hammer, static for bosses, maybe Ice Blast or Fireball for long range. Get used to not casting a lot of spells until you can get together a bunch of +mana items and/or an Insight merc.
Christ almighty what an unbelievable pain the ass for a sorc.
I just cannot wrap my head around not casting spells as a sorceress.
Honestly, I would just leech off pub runs as a sorc, lack of mana really sucks early on. It's not like a paladin where you can stuff points into holy fire and stuff just dies.
Look for tombs till you're 20, cows till 24, hopefully someone can help with ancients, then you can baal till you're comfortable going into NM.
Or you can hit stuff.
So then you agree everything into Vit (except where Str is needed), and Static Field, and Fire spells?
Sort of, there's really 2 parts to playing a character.
1. Levelling, here you just play it by ear, depending on available gear you have, you might put a couple points into energy to help with mana issues, or you come across a better set of armor that requires more str. I usually keep ~25 spare points in case I run into something.
2. When you're fully twinked out, you'll find you don't need to put points into energy any more due to levelling bonuses as well as gear. Before respec, this was a pretty hard and fast rule to play as (unless it's your first character, then you might have spare str/dex/energy).
Levelling a sorc as your first character is a pita until you get to ~ lv. 40 and have access to Insight+Frozen Orb, then you find things start dying often. Until then, it's kind of a grind unless you can get rushed to normal Baal.
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It's generally really hard to trade for items, especially items of value, with offers containing lots of stuff.
The best bet is to convert that stuff to currency - runes, certain pgems, or even high value items, but that isn't recommended unless it's something universally sought after.
Most people wouldn't trade something like a sorc torch for a bunch of assorted items, not even if their potential value was higher - it's too much of a hassle.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
4os eth balrog skin, get
now what to put in it :whistle:
e: i socketed it with larzuk, was i supposed to do something else to 'bug' it?
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holee shitballs just had a mang song's lesson drop in ancient tunnels
stats are +5 skills, 30% fcr, -14% enemy fire resist -15% enemy lit resist -10% enemy cold resist
might not be that good compared to say hoto+spirit, but isn't it amazing for summoning druids?
You bug eth armor by using the cube formula, which gives it a random amount of sockets, so it's also a slight gamble. This of course only works when you have a plain, eth item.
EDIT: It's a good prebuff staff, for summoners and various other builds. I think people mention it as a good druid summoner item because they wouldn't want to put any points in strength, which isn't necessarily the way to go in my opinion.
It's a neat find regardless, though.
There might be some collector's value to it. Not Tyrael's Might levels of value or anything, but some.
When I start a new sorc, I give her a Hellforge Hammer for melee - nice low-level damage, and no requirements. Frost nova to slow mobs down until you can smack them with the hammer, static for bosses, maybe Ice Blast or Fireball for long range. Get used to not casting a lot of spells until you can get together a bunch of +mana items and/or an Insight merc.
Christ almighty what an unbelievable pain the ass for a sorc.
I just cannot wrap my head around not casting spells as a sorceress.
Look, you can do it without any of the assorted twinky methods. It's just that you run into the problem you encountered, namely that it's impossible to get a decent amount of mana to kill things in a sustained manner for the first... ~30 levels or so. So it doesn't matter what you do, either you run away from every fight when you run out of mana so you can chug a potion, or you build so that you can go hit things while regenerating mana.
You had ice blast, right? It freezes for three seconds with just one point. Freeze, melee, melee, melee, freeze, melee, etc. Normal attack on left-click, Ice Blast on right-click. This is pretty impossible to mess up unless you walk into a room full of archers. And this way you don't rely on mana to kill things, and might even leech some mana back with a good weapon. Of course, if it's just you and a boss you can whip out a dozen fire bolts to end the battle quickly, but this wouldn't be sustainable in normal battle.
Put only one point in Static Field; only its radius increases with additional points so it's not really beneficial to put more than one in it. The others, well... normally I'd say that you should only put points in Fire Bolt or Fire Ball if you're going Meteor at the end. And points in Ice Bolt etc. if you're going Blizzard (not Frozen Orb!), and charged bolt only if you're going Lightning. But I guess you could really put whereever and just hit respec in Nightmare.
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i've got an ik helm for you
also still have one more ik armor if anyone still needs one
Damn, really?
e: Oh, skill points, fire bolt/ball/static should last you through most of normal.
i mostly just started out with points in glacial spike (is that the one that freezes?) and frost nova and spammed em
Edit: Anyone have a cheap 4soc polearm lying around? Not looking for anything spectacular, just need to craft an Insight because all of this corpse exploding is really taking a toll on the mana potions
i have one on a mule, whisper *nealcm
Wow so I respec'd and this is absolute bullshit.
Melee sorceresses are fucking retarded. I do even less damage and I die to everything.
o_O Why are you going Melee? They're not very viable unless you have dual dreams and a shael'd phase blade.
Hmm, you could go the chanter route and punch stuff, but that's still not optimal (use a ravenclaw bow+high chant for normal destruction)
Ronya said to get a sword and start hitting stuff and cast spells when I had the mana.
Look for tombs till you're 20, cows till 24, hopefully someone can help with ancients, then you can baal till you're comfortable going into NM.
Or you can hit stuff.
Anyone bored enough to rush a brand new necro tonight? :P
So then you agree everything into Vit (except where Str is needed), and Static Field, and Fire spells?
Christ almighty what an unbelievable pain the ass for a sorc.
I just cannot wrap my head around not casting spells as a sorceress.
Sort of, there's really 2 parts to playing a character.
1. Levelling, here you just play it by ear, depending on available gear you have, you might put a couple points into energy to help with mana issues, or you come across a better set of armor that requires more str. I usually keep ~25 spare points in case I run into something.
2. When you're fully twinked out, you'll find you don't need to put points into energy any more due to levelling bonuses as well as gear. Before respec, this was a pretty hard and fast rule to play as (unless it's your first character, then you might have spare str/dex/energy).
Levelling a sorc as your first character is a pita until you get to ~ lv. 40 and have access to Insight+Frozen Orb, then you find things start dying often. Until then, it's kind of a grind unless you can get rushed to normal Baal.
Fuck off.
Just in case you didn't know, torches aren't equal in value. That necro torch is a pul on a lucky day, whereas any given sorc torch will be expensive.
Of course, value matters less here, but if you're trying for that deal on battlenet it'll never happen.
so i'd have to offer the torch + a bunch of other stuff right
It's generally really hard to trade for items, especially items of value, with offers containing lots of stuff.
The best bet is to convert that stuff to currency - runes, certain pgems, or even high value items, but that isn't recommended unless it's something universally sought after.
Most people wouldn't trade something like a sorc torch for a bunch of assorted items, not even if their potential value was higher - it's too much of a hassle.
now what to put in it :whistle:
e: i socketed it with larzuk, was i supposed to do something else to 'bug' it?
stats are +5 skills, 30% fcr, -14% enemy fire resist -15% enemy lit resist -10% enemy cold resist
might not be that good compared to say hoto+spirit, but isn't it amazing for summoning druids?
EDIT: It's a good prebuff staff, for summoners and various other builds. I think people mention it as a good druid summoner item because they wouldn't want to put any points in strength, which isn't necessarily the way to go in my opinion.
It's a neat find regardless, though.
There might be some collector's value to it. Not Tyrael's Might levels of value or anything, but some.
Look, you can do it without any of the assorted twinky methods. It's just that you run into the problem you encountered, namely that it's impossible to get a decent amount of mana to kill things in a sustained manner for the first... ~30 levels or so. So it doesn't matter what you do, either you run away from every fight when you run out of mana so you can chug a potion, or you build so that you can go hit things while regenerating mana.
You had ice blast, right? It freezes for three seconds with just one point. Freeze, melee, melee, melee, freeze, melee, etc. Normal attack on left-click, Ice Blast on right-click. This is pretty impossible to mess up unless you walk into a room full of archers. And this way you don't rely on mana to kill things, and might even leech some mana back with a good weapon. Of course, if it's just you and a boss you can whip out a dozen fire bolts to end the battle quickly, but this wouldn't be sustainable in normal battle.
Put only one point in Static Field; only its radius increases with additional points so it's not really beneficial to put more than one in it. The others, well... normally I'd say that you should only put points in Fire Bolt or Fire Ball if you're going Meteor at the end. And points in Ice Bolt etc. if you're going Blizzard (not Frozen Orb!), and charged bolt only if you're going Lightning. But I guess you could really put whereever and just hit respec in Nightmare.
Yeah, Larzuk doesn't bug it. The Cube formula for a random amount of sockets does.
It's a unintended tradeoff, I guess - Larzuk gives certainty over the amount of sockets you'll get, the Cube gives 50% more defence.
I lol'ed.
GooseyGoose, I'll need your account name to add you to the OP.
think that's my first non-forge HR
the diablo wiki says it is
i thought pul+ was HR too
apparently only vex+ is, those are like, "midrunes" or soething
found a warcry skiller 38 life
how many bers is that you think
please say ten
Warcry skiller
good thing i picked up my items before i left pamule, but it was the kind of tempban for leaving and joining games too quickly